Tacitcs of Thief without yokodama

[puhfyn]

I'm not really sure how this works at all. If thief has to use sneak attack and decieve attack separately, thief becomes almost worthless. Any ideas what thieves should do in battle now?

[Wiegraf]

i believe you misunderstood a point.
Sneak+Trick still works together, just not on a single tank anymore.

[puhfyn]

thanks that makes so much more sense than taking it away completely. Yeah i misunderstood, that's why I was so upset. This doesn't sound bad at all then.

[skyrend]

From what I understand, sneak and deceive used to be able to be used together without the thief being behind the monster; the thief would just have to stand on a certain angle to the tank and monster.

But now that sneak only works when the thief is behind the monster, a party would actually need for the tank, to whom the thief is transferring hate, to be behind the monster. The problem is that most parties consisted of one tank which the monster would be facing the whole time. This change requires that the party take on at least one more tank or semi-tank.

This doesn't sound like a HUGE change, IMO. If I'm wrong, feel free to correct.

[zsedc]

a nin puller could work......