Max number of ws's in a Renkei?

strahdswift · 12-08-2003, 12:40 AM

Ok guys bare with me I am tryin to learn =P

According to Shamaru's chart, LVL 1 Liquefaction renkei followed by a LVL1 Impaction renkei will create a LVL2 fusion renkei???

How does that work? Ive looked at the charts every which way and I dont see liquefaction and impaction being able to link in any way unless Impaction comes first??? If it was a simple typo by him, then dont mind me :sweat:

If not, are you saying you can link 2 non linking chains to create LVL2 renkei?? Like say for instance:

Player 1 - One Inch Punch
Player 2 - Raiden Thrust
LVL1 Transfixion Renkei
player 3 - Red Lotus
Player 4 - Fast Blade
LVL1 Scission Renkei
+ creates LVL2 Distortion Renkei?????

Kinda doesnt sound right, but if it works im all for it

Thanks in advance!

-Strahd

Arctyc · 12-08-2003, 02:08 AM

No, strahd, doesn't quite work that way. What the chart is saying that by going from a Weapon Skill with the Liquefaction Attribute ("in the red box") to one with the Impaction Attribute ("in the purple box") will create the Fusion Skillchain.

So, for example, note that Red Lotus Blade is listed at the bottom as having the Liquefaction and Detonation Attributes. If you trigger this Weapon Skill then follow it with say Combo (which has the Impaction Attribute), you will trigger the Fusion Skillchain.

Shamaru · 12-08-2003, 02:25 AM

Ok let me tell you how to use my chart (updated one is << here >> )

When you connect 2 WS together, you will get a Lv1 Renkei effect same as the later WS, or Lv2 Renkei. You may connect with another WS for chain Renkei by follow chart direction.

Lv2 and 3 are same principle.

example.

Player1 does Fast blade (Scission)
Player2 does Burning blade (Liquefaction, piority over Detonation)
Liquefaction Renkei lv1 created (Magic burst with Fire)
Player3 does Combo (Impaction)
Fusion Renkei lv2 created (Magic burst with Fire/Light)
Player4 does Blade: Ten (Gravitation)
Gravitation Renkei lv2 created (Magic burst with Earth/Dark)
Player5 does Cross Reaper (Distortion)
"Dark" Renkei lv3 created (Magic burst with Water/Ice/Earth/Dark)

Strahd your mistake was: you need to use another "WS" connect to Renkei to create another "chain" Renkei. Hope my example make it clear for you.

John Doe III · 12-08-2003, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SiC
You cannot combine 2 level 2s or 2 level 3s in the same renkei.

Actually you can

.

Xeross · 12-08-2003, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shamaru
Ok let me tell you how to use my chart (updated one is << here >> )

When you connect 2 WS together, you will get a Lv1 Renkei effect same as the later WS, or Lv2 Renkei. You may connect with another WS for chain Renkei by follow chart direction.

Lv2 and 3 are same principle.

example.

Player1 does Fast blade (Scission)
Player2 does Burning blade (Liquefaction, piority over Detonation)
Liquefaction Renkei lv1 created (Magic burst with Fire)
Player3 does Combo (Impaction)
Fusion Renkei lv2 created (Magic burst with Fire/Light)
Player4 does Blade: Ten (Gravitation)
Gravitation Renkei lv2 created (Magic burst with Earth/Dark)
Player5 does Cross Reaper (Distortion)
"Dark" Renkei lv3 created (Magic burst with Water/Ice/Earth/Dark)

Strahd your mistake was: you need to use another "WS" connect to Renkei to create another "chain" Renkei. Hope my example make it clear for you.

Now I am totally confused, according to the chart I am posting, you cant make the jump from Fusion to Gravitation... yet yours says you can...

what the hell... so confused. :sweat: :sweat: :confused:

Shamaru · 12-08-2003, 08:41 PM

: Xeross

Your chart was missing 225 skilled WS which have lv2 effects (Fusion, Distortion, Gravitation, Fragmentation) for connect to lv2 renkei created by lv1 combination. Please look closely to WS table in my chart for detail of WS effects.

Xeross · 12-08-2003, 08:51 PM

oh alright, so then the lvl1 chains(that make a lvl 2 renkie) can be followed by the 225 skills because it is a lvl2 renkie in the lvl1 chain area?

or is it less complicated then that?

strahdswift · 12-08-2003, 11:49 PM

Awesome, thanks for the info guys!

Xeross, I believe you are right. Each WS has its own renkei effect, all being lvl1 effects except the lvl 225 skills which have lvl2 effects. Those 225 WS's cant be linked off of regular WS skill chains that end in lvl2 renkei effects. Hope that made sense :sweat:

12-08-2003, 02:25 AM	#18
Shamaru Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 41 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	Ok let me tell you how to use my chart (updated one is << here >> ) When you connect 2 WS together, you will get a Lv1 Renkei effect same as the later WS, or Lv2 Renkei. You may connect with another WS for chain Renkei by follow chart direction. Lv2 and 3 are same principle. example. Player1 does Fast blade (Scission) Player2 does Burning blade (Liquefaction, piority over Detonation) Liquefaction Renkei lv1 created (Magic burst with Fire) Player3 does Combo (Impaction) Fusion Renkei lv2 created (Magic burst with Fire/Light) Player4 does Blade: Ten (Gravitation) Gravitation Renkei lv2 created (Magic burst with Earth/Dark) Player5 does Cross Reaper (Distortion) "Dark" Renkei lv3 created (Magic burst with Water/Ice/Earth/Dark) Strahd your mistake was: you need to use another "WS" connect to Renkei to create another "chain" Renkei. Hope my example make it clear for you. __________________ SHA~

12-08-2003, 08:41 PM	#21
Shamaru Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 41 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	: Xeross Your chart was missing 225 skilled WS which have lv2 effects (Fusion, Distortion, Gravitation, Fragmentation) for connect to lv2 renkei created by lv1 combination. Please look closely to WS table in my chart for detail of WS effects. __________________ SHA~

12-08-2003, 08:51 PM	#22
Xeross Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 214 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	oh alright, so then the lvl1 chains(that make a lvl 2 renkie) can be followed by the 225 skills because it is a lvl2 renkie in the lvl1 chain area? or is it less complicated then that? __________________ Xeri[Mithra]:: Current Job:: [THF 25/WAR 18] Other Jobs: [BLM 8]::[WHM 13]::Status->Deleted Lulian[Elvaan]:: Current Job [War 17]::Status->Inactive Torx[Taru]::[WAR 55 \| RNG 28 \| SAM 27 \| BRD 26 \| NIN 25 \| PLD 29 \| WHM 16 \| MNK 13 \| BLM 10 \| DRG 10 \| THF 7 \| DRK 5] Main Job Subjob

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12-08-2003, 12:40 AM	#16
strahdswift Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	Ok guys bare with me I am tryin to learn =P According to Shamaru's chart, LVL 1 Liquefaction renkei followed by a LVL1 Impaction renkei will create a LVL2 fusion renkei??? How does that work? Ive looked at the charts every which way and I dont see liquefaction and impaction being able to link in any way unless Impaction comes first??? If it was a simple typo by him, then dont mind me :sweat: If not, are you saying you can link 2 non linking chains to create LVL2 renkei?? Like say for instance: Player 1 - One Inch Punch Player 2 - Raiden Thrust LVL1 Transfixion Renkei player 3 - Red Lotus Player 4 - Fast Blade LVL1 Scission Renkei + creates LVL2 Distortion Renkei????? Kinda doesnt sound right, but if it works im all for it Thanks in advance! -Strahd

12-08-2003, 02:08 AM	#17
Arctyc Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 305 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	No, strahd, doesn't quite work that way. What the chart is saying that by going from a Weapon Skill with the Liquefaction Attribute ("in the red box") to one with the Impaction Attribute ("in the purple box") will create the Fusion Skillchain. So, for example, note that Red Lotus Blade is listed at the bottom as having the Liquefaction and Detonation Attributes. If you trigger this Weapon Skill then follow it with say Combo (which has the Impaction Attribute), you will trigger the Fusion Skillchain.

12-08-2003, 11:49 PM	#23
strahdswift Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	Awesome, thanks for the info guys! Xeross, I believe you are right. Each WS has its own renkei effect, all being lvl1 effects except the lvl 225 skills which have lvl2 effects. Those 225 WS's cant be linked off of regular WS skill chains that end in lvl2 renkei effects. Hope that made sense :sweat: