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Thanked 3x in 3 Posts Gil: 8,171 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 8,171 Donate  | Re: This job is too easy. Are we contributing to the argument or are we repeating what Feba and Mog have already said?
EDIT: Oh, no, don't get me wrong. I'm talking from level 20 until burn parties. NIN/DRK is a fine tank, as is PLD/NIN. Both keep hate very well.
It's not as though PLD needs help with invites. Or soloability. Or endgame (or mid-game) viability. They aren't super fantastic with the shield blocking though so suddenly we should feel give them a new spell that gives just over 50% shield activation normally?  
No, I do not have a life. |  | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 06-10-2008, 06:14 PM | #17 (permalink) | The BBQ Kitten Revolution FFXIWiki Team Join Date: May 2006 Location: Windurst Posts: 4,590 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood:  Thanks: 158
Thanked 1,269x in 707 Posts Gil: 37,356 Bank: 11 Total Gil: 37,367 Donate | Re: Reprisal Originally Posted by WishMaster3K  | | If the world was as cut and dry as you made it, BBQ would be right. All The Time. | Just because your opinion and my opinion on RDM melee differs isn't a valid reason to bring me into this. NIN vs. PLD which is an argument I'll never get into. Both jobs have thier own merits, but when it come to keeping hate, PLD is king and always will be. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Omgwtfbbqkitten for above post: | | | | 06-10-2008, 06:17 PM | #18 (permalink) | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: U.S.A Posts: 158 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 7
Thanked 3x in 3 Posts Gil: 8,171 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 8,171 Donate | Re: Reprisal It has been proven that NIN/DRK tanks can reach one of the enmity caps before Paladin. Though NIN/DRK is more risky. Just wanted to throw that out there.
No, I do not have a life. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 06-10-2008, 06:18 PM | #19 (permalink) | | Achiever Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 2,626 Style: Light - Version 4 My Mood:  Thanks: 442
Thanked 238x in 139 Posts Gil: 2,002 Bank: 89,521 Total Gil: 91,523 Donate | Re: Reprisal BBQ, that's a conversation I'd rather take to PMs, honestly. | Originally Posted by Aksannyi | | I swear some melee would forget their fucking weapon if they didn't have it equipped every time they logged in. |  | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 06-10-2008, 06:18 PM | #20 (permalink) | | Loaded With Sodium Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,964 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 448
Thanked 1,591x in 1,001 Posts Gil: 3,657 Bank: 33,189 Total Gil: 36,846 Donate | Re: Reprisal So then what the hell are you complaining about?
edit: Damn you Armando. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 06-10-2008, 06:20 PM | #21 (permalink) | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: U.S.A Posts: 158 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 7
Thanked 3x in 3 Posts Gil: 8,171 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 8,171 Donate | Re: Reprisal Tanking before merits.
No, I do not have a life. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 06-10-2008, 06:30 PM | #22 (permalink) | | X's General FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 3,011 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood:  Thanks: 260
Thanked 755x in 410 Posts Gil: 51,094 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 51,094 Donate | Re: Reprisal The funny thing about Raitox's original statement is that
1) Tanking has never been rocket science, and
2) 99% of the PLDs I've seen in Midgard manage to fail at it even though it's easy. |  | ::Quote Selected:: | | The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Armando For This Useful Post: | | | | 06-10-2008, 06:38 PM | #23 (permalink) | | Lightness Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,393 Style: Light - Version 4 My Mood:  Thanks: 92
Thanked 129x in 77 Posts Gil: 10,576 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 10,576 Donate | Re: Reprisal | Originally Posted by Raitox | A good PLD/NIN > A good NIN > A good PLD > A shitty PLD > A shitty NIN
I am done. | Fixed.
Oh, don't get me wrong, I've been a NIN for longer than most ppl have played this game. I'm old school, no exp chain bonus, no exp ring, no fast kill meripo, no haste setup, full evasion gear sata+mb type of NIN but when you see how strong and versatile a well equipped pld/nin can be, you start thinking wow, that shit is pretty ridiculous.
If I could have a pld/nin at my disposal for all the lowman stuff I do, I'd never bother with a large ls ever again.
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Thanked 1,591x in 1,001 Posts Gil: 3,657 Bank: 33,189 Total Gil: 36,846 Donate | Re: This job is too easy. | Originally Posted by Raitox | | It's not as though PLD needs help with invites. Or soloability. Or endgame (or mid-game) viability. They aren't super fantastic with the shield blocking though so suddenly we should feel give them a new spell that gives just over 50% shield activation normally? | This is a pretty pathetic rebuttal. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 06-10-2008, 06:51 PM | #25 (permalink) | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: U.S.A Posts: 158 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 7
Thanked 3x in 3 Posts Gil: 8,171 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 8,171 Donate | Re: This job is too easy. It's about on par on the treatment you guys have been given to me. And... you can't say it isn't true.
No, I do not have a life. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 06-10-2008, 06:52 PM | #26 (permalink) | | X's General FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 3,011 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 260
Thanked 755x in 410 Posts Gil: 51,094 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 51,094 Donate | Re: This job is too easy. Are you really surprised you got flamed after posting flamebait? | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 06-10-2008, 06:54 PM | #27 (permalink) | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: U.S.A Posts: 158 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 7
Thanked 3x in 3 Posts Gil: 8,171 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 8,171 Donate | Re: This job is too easy. No. But I figured I could sink to a lower level.
No, I do not have a life. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 06-10-2008, 06:58 PM | #28 (permalink) | | The Closer Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,759 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood:  Thanks: 137
Thanked 516x in 327 Posts Gil: 1,858 Bank: 22,382 Total Gil: 24,240 Donate | Re: Reprisal | Originally Posted by Armando | | 2) 99% of the PLDs I've seen in Midgard manage to fail at it even though it's easy. | I disagree. 85% maybe but 99% absolutely not. But yes, the majority do. I know quite a few skilled tanks, some of which are in my ls. Some people are like Slinkys , totally useless but they still put a smile on your face when you push them down a flight of stairs. | Originally Posted by WishMaster3K | | The vagina is a magical object. | | Originally Posted by Balfree | | AND running the game at 2024x2024 resolution, with forced AA and AF o boy, you can even see that galka's pubes. | | Originally Posted by Aksannyi | | FFXIOnline.com - "Where women are not constantly begged to show tits or GTFO!" | | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 06-10-2008, 06:59 PM | #29 (permalink) | | X's General FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 3,011 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 260
Thanked 755x in 410 Posts Gil: 51,094 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 51,094 Donate | Re: This job is too easy. TGM, you should know that 72% of all statistics are made up on the spot!
Also, hyperbole helps emphasize. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Armando For This Useful Post: | | | | 06-10-2008, 07:05 PM | #30 (permalink) | | Loaded With Sodium Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,964 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 448
Thanked 1,591x in 1,001 Posts Gil: 3,657 Bank: 33,189 Total Gil: 36,846 Donate | Re: This job is too easy. | Originally Posted by Raitox | | It's about on par on the treatment you guys have been given to me. And... you can't say it isn't true. | It isn't, and I can. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Murphie for above post: | | |
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