Garlaige at 31?

[LoneGamer]

Hi all,

Can PLD perform effectively in Garlaige Citadel at 31? I wrapped up a Yhoator party 1090/5900 into 31, and would like to avoid making another trip out there if possible. Without food and Protect, I have:

548 HP
141 MP
165 DEF
45 VIT
29 AGI

I don't have Eisen feet yet, I haven't been able to find them on AH. For food, I've been using fish kabobs, sometimes chiefs, depending what's left over after crafting. Is it possible to get away with 31, or should I go back to the jungle for one more round?

Also, once I hit 29 and started wearing Eisen gear, I found I'm now taking so little damage, it's difficult to self heal for aggro, so hate is getting a bit loose. How can I effectively use my JAs to hold aggro? Also, should I be curing with Cure 2 or Cure 3? I seem to remember something about Cure 3 being reduced aggro.

[KoukiRyu]

You can head to Eastern Altepa Desert and fight beetles at this level range? Get to about 33-ish if I remember right, and then go to Garlaige instead of one extreme or the other. Garlaige might be tough for you, so try Altep for now?

[LoneGamer]

I'm not sure how common Altepa parties are on Phoenix, but worth a try. Thanks.

[Aeolus]

Take control of it yourself, if your the leader make them go to altepa if they can. Its fast exp and there wont be complaints once they relise that.

[Van'derfel]

most people on my server go to citadel at lvl 30 on any job. at 31 or 32 some prefer crawlers nest. altepa is really only used by all the late night JP parties

[Murphie]

People love to over hunt in this game.

[LyonheartLakshmi]

31 sounds like a level or two too early for a blood tank in Garlaige. Something tells me the mobs there will dish out more than enough damage for you to self heal.

[Celeal]

As above posters mentioned, Beetles in Eastern Alpha Desert is very good. Another camp I suggest is Carbs outside of Norg at the zone. In that camp Carb's spawn rate, difficulties and exp gain should be just right for lvl 31 parties, without touching the Bones at all.

[LoneGamer]

I completely forgot about outside Norg and Sea Serpent Grotto. Haven't dealt with a low level job in quite a while. But, yeah, I did enjoy those couple spots when doing DRK and NIN way back.

[Armando]

I wouldn't go to Garlaige 'til 34. If you bribed me, I might consider 33. Might. Probably not. I know I'm just echoing everyone else's posts here, but go to Altepa. Sometimes you gotta put your foot down if the party leader's making questionable decisions.

Any Cure other than Cure V generates hate proportionate to the HP it recovers. That's all you need to know. Which cure you need to use? That's something only you can decide. You should be using the least amount of MP that'll still allow you to hold hate. You don't have enough MP to throw around (mainly due to lack of refresh and a dependency on actual resting) to waste any MP at this point.

Your JAs? Those are for emergencies. They make a lot of hate, but it decreases rather quickly afterwards. On the other hand, they'll buy you enough time to get hate back without you needing to waste 48+ MP just to turn the mob.

[tuggler]

Your JAs? Those are for emergencies.

Sorry, not wanting to derail the thread here, but I'd say that the only JA's that are for emergencies are Invincible and Cover. Sentinel, Rampart, Shield Bash, Defender etc (yes, I know the OP won't have akll of these) should be used routinely to generate hate, not just in emergencies.

[LoneGamer]

For some reason I had it in my mind that healing with Cure 3 was less aggro than doing the same with Cure 2. *shrug* I guess I'll try to avoid Garlaige for now. Almost at 37, then I can start seeing if RDM/PLD is at all feasible in parties or if it will remain a solo sub.

[tuggler]

I can start seeing if RDM/PLD is at all feasible in parties or if it will remain a solo sub.

It's definitely a good job for soloing when you hit the higher levels of PLD, but not so useful in parties. The main reason being that you'll lose Provoke. I assume you're thinking about /RDM to give you more MP? Just add a few MP gear pieces (don't overdo it) to give you a little extra MP if your VIT and DEF are ok.....but remember, it is not your job to keep yourself fully healed, that's the mage's job. Use your cures to generate hate by curing yourself or by curing a party member to whom you have lost hate (only if they've lost HP, of course) and also use it if you really are getting low on HP (if the WHM doesn't seem to have you covered). But remember, the WHM is more responsible for your actual HP than you are.

[Srxjo]

It's definitely a good job for soloing when you hit the higher levels of PLD, but not so useful in parties. The main reason being that you'll lose Provoke. I assume you're thinking about /RDM to give you more MP? Just add a few MP gear pieces (don't overdo it) to give you a little extra MP if your VIT and DEF are ok.....but remember, it is not your job to keep yourself fully healed, that's the mage's job. Use your cures to generate hate by curing yourself or by curing a party member to whom you have lost hate (only if they've lost HP, of course) and also use it if you really are getting low on HP (if the WHM doesn't seem to have you covered). But remember, the WHM is more responsible for your actual HP than you are.

he ment going RDM/PLD not PLD/RDM

[Armando]

Sorry, not wanting to derail the thread here, but I'd say that the only JA's that are for emergencies are Invincible and Cover. Sentinel, Rampart, Shield Bash, Defender etc (yes, I know the OP won't have akll of these) should be used routinely to generate hate, not just in emergencies.

Again, the hate from those abilities disappears shortly after being use. If you're using them routinely you're just wasting them since the hate isn't going to stay with you for the rest of the fight. Sentinel and Rampart can be used routinely for damage mitigation purposes (e.g. fighting Erucas, throwing Rampart about ~20 seconds into the fight will often catch early Incinerates, and Sentinel after an early incinerate will prevent an unlucky double attack from one-shotting you afterwards, or if you use it early in the fight it'll keep your HP up.) There's no real reason to be using Shield Bash routinely though.