11-23-2006, 08:48 AM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 89 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 89 Donate | PLD food I have no idea what food to use at my level. I'm using Kampf gear and I was wondering whats the best food to use at my level (36) ?? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-23-2006, 09:32 AM | #2 (permalink) | | Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the universe Posts: 1,084 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 293 Thanked 243x in 163 Posts Gil: 15,888 Bank: 49,895 Total Gil: 65,783 Donate | Re: PLD food Honestly, I usually just take a stack of rolanberry pies with me because having the extra MP is a lot of help in holding hate. One pie gives you 2 Cure II's for free, or one Cure III. One Cure III will pull a massive amount of hate. Plus, in one more level you can get Flash, which costs 25mp, but pulls hate such as Provoke does.
I'm not saying this is the only food to use, but being an Elvaan pld, I find rolanberry pies to just be incredibly helpful.
There's my two cents. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-23-2006, 09:53 AM | #3 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 78 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2x in 2 Posts Gil: 2,116 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,116 Donate | Re: PLD food Around that level I used lots of Steamed and Boiled Crab for defense.
Most of the defense food has defense% bonus with a cap. Like if its written 60@240, it means that the most you'll get is 60 def bonus if you have 240 def or more at base.
So its a good idea to use food that will be at that cap or with a higher cap. Why not MUCH higher like Tavnazian Tacos? Because generally speaking the lower capped foods also have higher Defense% bonus.
So trying to keep close to your current defense will be beneficial, althought foods like Tavnazian Tacos have higher bonus stats like Dex and Vit than Crab for example. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-23-2006, 10:00 AM | #4 (permalink) | | J...atatouille Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 8,338 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 5 Thanked 137x in 107 Posts Gil: 31,976 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 31,976 Donate | Re: PLD food The best thing about Tavnazian Taco is the HP bonus. As a Taru, I love it. At level 23-24 it saved me from many pugil's screwdriver >.> It won't give you as much defense at low level, but HP bonus is definitely worth it. There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
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- Pablo Picasso | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-23-2006, 11:30 AM | #5 (permalink) | | Model A7M2 FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 3,155 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 278 Thanked 820x in 435 Posts Gil: 59,378 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 59,378 Donate | Re: PLD food Tavnazian Tacos are awesome, but they're worth soooooooooo much they make me cry (unless something's changed recently.) Also, outside of the HP/MP they give, the extra stats don't really make much of a difference, so I wouldn't recommend it unless you really want the HP/MP or you need food with a higher Defense cap.
Yeah, I think I used Boiled Crab at those levels. It's also worth mentioning, though, that Steamed Crabs will last twice as long, but at least in Midgardsormr they're worth less than twice as much, making them both more efficient AND cheaper than their NQ counterpart. Fish Mithkabobs are also good, have a fairly high cap, and you can get them for 1k apiece at an NPC in Kazham. I still use 'em at Level 60. Then there's also Shallops Tropicale, a cheaper alternative to Tavnazian Tacos and Salads.
When in doubt, check Somepage and Mysterytour. Also remember that like FranckKnight said, foods have caps. Make sure to move up to foods with higher caps as your Defense increases, and remember that most of them have similar +Defense percentages so using high level foods early on doesn't really grant you much of an advantage in the Defense department (especially since higher cap foods tend to give slightly lower percentages.) Last edited by Armando : 11-23-2006 at 11:35 AM. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-28-2006, 09:57 AM | #6 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 50 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 4,810 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,810 Donate | Re: PLD food I ran with boiled crab, and have stuck with somepages advice, so I am now moving to fish mithkabobs, and I'm lvl 60. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-28-2006, 10:19 AM | #7 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 167 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 4,219 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,219 Donate | Re: PLD food Boiled crab, is what i used but that was way back before +1 enmity swords and Kampf gear... you new plds have it soo easy... lol
Steamed crab is reccomended though like armando said, it costs alittle more upfront but over all it's cheaper and lasts longer...
Mysterytour and Somepage, are very useful and you should learn to navigate these sites not just for food but for lots of other info too, also i reccomend FFXIah.com... and used to reccomend Alla but they're owned by IGE now so... they can piss off...
I can't imagine using MP food since i can't recall ever having a problem holding hate decently at those lvls... unless your a galka, then i highly reccomend it, less you be sitting between each fight... and you PLD's these days have even better gear for hate control... to each his own though
You also have flash by now right? i think you get that at 35... might be 37... if your having problems with hate try using a hate pattern like - voke wait 15 sec flash(best thing to do after flash is heal you or party member for even more hate so try to combine a heal 2 with your flashes when you can) heal wait 15 sec voke wait 15 , use a high hate JA(whatever you have available) and repeat starting with voke agian.... if you can't hold hate with that, then someone is slaughtering that mob so hopefully it's dead soon... if it's the whm... then try not over camping... cause your getting healed to much...  "how broken everything about ToAU is."
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"Finally Quit this game" | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-28-2006, 10:40 AM | #8 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 464 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2x in 2 Posts Gil: 723 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 723 Donate | Re: PLD food Galka don't need MP food either. Some minor gear swaps can alleviate that problem easily. IMO, Tavnazian Taco is the way to go. However, you probably won't reap the full benefits of the defense%+ effect at your level. Stick with boiled crab if its far cheaper. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-28-2006, 01:08 PM | #9 (permalink) | | The Architect Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lincoln, UK Posts: 1,109 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 239 Thanked 140x in 100 Posts Gil: 4,917 Bank: 263,512 Total Gil: 268,429 Donate | Re: PLD food I am currently lvl 35 pld, I'm a galka and Mp isn;t a problem as I can cook and make my own Mellon juice as well as using RSE hands for the extra MP bonus.
I used Fish mithkabobs and still do, they are currently around 18K a stack on Garuda, but if your patient and have a kazham airship pass (which you should by now!!) then a Mithra there sells them for around 990a piece (which works out at 12k a stack rounded up) each lasts 30 minutes. If you are rich then the Shallopse tropical or Tazvania tacos (however you spell it!) are your friend, though for a Galka or Elvan at lower levels its overkill!
One item I tried and wasn't much difference at my level (35) is Nebimonite bake. I made a stack for cooking skill and tested them the cap is 70@280 base defense (comparted to fish miths 90@360, considering my def before food is 210@35 and both are +25% def there is no difference in defense addition between them. As a white magic caster the nebinomite bake does not have the -1 mind like the fish miths do. Both are +1 dex & +2 vitality. when your base level gets over 280 then you would notice the difference. Looking at the AH not many Nebimonite bakes sell, thougn if you are not a fisherman or don't have a high level job to get shall shells and nebimonite then the Nebimonite bake is cheaper due to the Nebimonite being 8k a stack (on my server that is) + fire crystals I already had + selbina butter I ahd already skilled+ mhaura garlic (600gill a stack from guild) I was able to make a stack for 9.5k saving 2.5k on a stack of fish miths bought from kazham.
As for Kheven's comments Flash is at 37, I ahve the scroll and am itching to be able to use it once I ding 37.
Mp food is useless, you are a tank you need defence high to take the hits to give help the mages conserve the Mp properly. if you run out of mp too quick looka t what you are casting or just bring juice with you. I always carry a couple of stacks of melons with me to make melon juice which is cooking lvl40 skill.
Small note out of all the guilds to craft wityh cooking is by far the most usefull for any job and race.  Brickshouse - The returning Galka. PLD/WAR/MNK/DNC/SAM
Eurdice - The mithra of Justice - WAR/MNK/RDM | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-28-2006, 02:03 PM | #10 (permalink) | | Digital Wizard Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 6,044 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 69 Thanked 475x in 313 Posts Gil: 5,436 Bank: 132,144 Total Gil: 137,580 Donate | Re: PLD food MP food is just overrated in general.
Rolanberry pies are neat because they give 50 MP, but they don't improve your flow of MP. Spellcasters of all types live and die by the amount of MP they recover over time, and the efficiency of the MP that they do spend. Max MP doesn't really come into consideration except in crisis situations where having a bit extra in the tank can come in handy to keep someone alive/control a link/etc.
Generally speaking, once you have "enough" max MP (which doesn't honestly require much at all), items that help you recover MP faster are far more preferable than MP+ gear (juice, cookies, Ether Belts, vermillion cloak, etc.).
Icemage | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-28-2006, 03:47 PM | #11 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 167 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 4,219 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,219 Donate | Re: PLD food See, not even galka's need mp haha
so i'd say mp food is kind of needless, damage mitigation is your friend!
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"Finally Quit this game" Last edited by Khevn : 11-28-2006 at 03:50 PM. Reason: bored | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-01-2006, 03:31 PM | #12 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Auburn, ME Posts: 394 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 171 Thanked 116x in 69 Posts Gil: 19,524 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 19,524 Donate | Re: PLD food What I use is unusual and probably not for everyone -- Vongole Rosso, which in time will be displaced by Pescatora. They don't give as much defense as straight seafood, but they give HP -- so for those who lean on self-curing as a hate tool, the combination of those two actually works surprisingly well. It also gives a little VIT and Store TP to boot. -- Pteryx | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-02-2006, 05:09 PM | #13 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 951 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 237 Thanked 69x in 61 Posts Gil: 1,983 Bank: 112,022 Total Gil: 114,005 Donate | Re: PLD food Tavnazian Taco for me at my level. Not only it has VIT + Def, it also has AGI+ that help shield blocks, and hmp+ while /heal. But at level 36, I would just go for Boiled Carb. If mp is an issue, use mp <-> Def gear swaping.  Server: Quetzalcoatl
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75 PLD, 75 SAM, 75 WAR, 75 NIN, 70 MNK, 50 BLU, 39 RDM, 37 DRK, 37 THF, 37 DNC, 33 WHM, 32 PUP, 27 BLM, 26 DRG, 14 RNG | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-02-2006, 09:13 PM | #14 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 483 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2x in 2 Posts Gil: 863 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 863 Donate | Re: PLD food Just use crab or fish. Tacos are way overpriced in usefullness for your level. Heck, I don't even use them much at 75. The extra stats are rarely, if ever, needed. I current only use tacos for certain NMs. Others I'll use Pescatora. Everything else is fish kabobs. Much cheaper, and plenty effective because of how quickly def caps out.
Depending on what you're fighting, you may be able to use sushi or attack foor instead of defense food. But make sure you put on som DD gear, and your party can handle it first. 
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