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Old 10-15-2006, 06:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Level 51 pld and besiged
Are PLDs at level 50ish any good in besiged?
Its my highest job and iv been wanting to try it out for ages
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Old 10-15-2006, 07:31 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Level 51 pld and besiged
No more so than a Summoner would be. You won't be able to hit anything, you can't take hits from enemies at that level (well unless you used Invincible), but you could still cast Cures and Raises. That's about it, though.

If you don't fancy being a glorified healer in heavy armor, don't do Besieged on Paladin at that level.


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Old 10-15-2006, 08:29 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Level 51 pld and besiged
/sigh looks like il have to wait then. Whats a good level to start at?
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Re: Level 51 pld and besiged
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/sigh looks like il have to wait then. Whats a good level to start at?
70?


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Old 10-15-2006, 09:01 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Level 51 pld and besiged
ah ok thanks for your help i better get back to the level slog then
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Old 10-15-2006, 09:36 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Level 51 pld and besiged
Healing is fine especially if you sub White mage for the extras. You can run around healing and if you get hate you can take damage better then a regular healer.



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Old 10-15-2006, 10:03 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Level 51 pld and besiged
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Healing is fine especially if you sub White mage for the extras. You can run around healing and if you get hate you can take damage better then a regular healer.
Not at level 50 he can't. I take way less damage as WHM75 than a level 50 Paladin (unless he has invincible up). More importantly I can cast Reraise and get myself back into action if for some reason I can't shake whatever is hitting me.


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Re: Level 51 pld and besiged
well i suppose i could run in like a brave paladin should then go invincible and run around till some one helps/ i die
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Re: Level 51 pld and besiged
Don't let anyone tell you that you can't do much in Besieged... hell, I play my cousin's 59PLD when Besieged is up on his server, the only things that hit too hard (outside of special attacks) are the NMs, I swear Medusa hit him for like 450DMG on a regular strike, OUCH.

You should be able to handle just about anything else they throw at you unless you have TONs of hate, which as a Paladin you should know how to manage(It's your job after all!). Also, if you're good at kiting, you can be useful in Besieged at almost any level. Also mentioned you can cure and raise as was said before. Trust me, I'm not talking out of my ass here, this is all stuff that I have done, I'm pretty sure someone more resourceful could think of even more stuff you could do to make yourself useful.



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Re: Level 51 pld and besiged
I was always doing Besieged from 50 and up on my RDM, basically healing was all I did, save for the occasional Refresh, of course. Buff up your party with some Protects, cast some cures, and Raise people. And if you die, it's not such a terrible thing because there's no xp loss. Anyone who says it's stupid for you to suck up raises is a jerk, level 75s can suck up as many raises as the rest of us.

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Re: Level 51 pld and besiged
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Not at level 50 he can't. I take way less damage as WHM75 than a level 50 Paladin (unless he has invincible up). More importantly I can cast Reraise and get myself back into action if for some reason I can't shake whatever is hitting me.


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Hmm... I'm not sure if I was that low when I started Besieged but don't say it can't be done. I do it all the time and if I do get hit I usually dont die. Plus Reraise isn't much of an issue seeing as 5 people are there to raise you when you die.



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Re: Level 51 pld and besiged
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Hmm... I'm not sure if I was that low when I started Besieged but don't say it can't be done. I do it all the time and if I do get hit I usually dont die. Plus Reraise isn't much of an issue seeing as 5 people are there to raise you when you die.
I didn't say he couldn't participate. I was taking issue with your assertion that a level 50 PLD will take less damage than a level 75 mage, which just isn't true.


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Re: Level 51 pld and besiged
Unfortunately, melees under level 65 at the very least probably aren't even going to be able to hit the mobs in a level 5 besieged, much less do any damage. As far as tanking, that's certainly out of the question until at least the 70s. I'm not even sure tanking is possible in besieged. Some people just take longer to die than others before the mob moves on to the next target.



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Re: Level 51 pld and besiged
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Unfortunately, melees under level 65 at the very least probably aren't even going to be able to hit the mobs in a level 5 besieged, much less do any damage. As far as tanking, that's certainly out of the question until at least the 70s. I'm not even sure tanking is possible in besieged. Some people just take longer to die than others before the mob moves on to the next target.
could he not participate better in the lower level beseige's?

i don't know much about it all as i'm only just approaching 50 (very slowly), but it's just a thought.



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Re: Level 51 pld and besiged
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could he not participate better in the lower level beseige's?

i don't know much about it all as i'm only just approaching 50 (very slowly), but it's just a thought.
Maybe, but all I ever see are Level 5 Besieged.

Basic rule in besieged is if you have at least Cure III and Raise, you are useful.

Last night was pretty fun, though. I was in an Undead Swarm Besieged as BLM63/WHM31 with my WAR62 friend. We were chasing around whacking on Lamia No. 9's elementals. They were the only things we could do damage to! Between the two of us, we eventually took out one of her Ice Elementals. I'd cast the occasional Fire 3 for kicks. I did get some nice Aspirs, though. The funniest thing was that we could whack and whack and the elemental never bothered us much, it just kept following Lamia No. 9 around.

The best part is when you get charmed and you start attacking another person. I just hope I never get attacked by a WAR75 while he's charmed. ><



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