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Thanked 2x in 2 Posts Gil: 723 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 723 Donate  | Re: Paladin guide 2.0 The broad description... latent is on when you have greater than 85% of your base hp. That means, if you strip off all of your gear, and you have 1000hp, the latent will trigger at 850 or more hp. If you put on +200hp in gear, the latent will still trigger at 850 or more hp.
However, food effects bump up the hp needed for the latent to be on. If you use +20hp food in the scenario showed, you'd need 870 or more hp to get the latent on.
Is 85% the exact percentage? It seems very close. For all intents and purposes, 85% is the number that counts. It supposedly can vary based on how much +hp gear you have on the "visible" pieces of gear (sword, shield, body, etc) vs the "invisible" pieces of gear (rings, earrings, back, waist, etc).
I personally couldn't verify that when I did my testing on this. And I have doubts that players want to memorize what hp the latent goes on/off, and swap in/out some other neck item at that point.
The latent refresh appears to stack with all refresh (so far):
PLD job trait auto-refresh
RDM refresh
BRD ballads
COR rolls
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Thanked 3x in 3 Posts Gil: 304 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 304 Donate | Re: Paladin guide 2.0 great guide, love the witty comments  | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Emurei for above post: | | | | 04-10-2008, 01:26 PM | #48 (permalink) | | GI Jew Join Date: May 2004 Location: South Of Heaven Posts: 700 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood:  Thanks: 14
Thanked 39x in 21 Posts Gil: 4,056 Bank: 7,936 Total Gil: 11,991 Donate | Re: Paladin guide 2.0 Oh my God, this guide needs to be rewritten...I'mma go do that nao. >.>  ಠ_ಠ | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 04-10-2008, 01:27 PM | #49 (permalink) | | Teh Mato Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Oregon! Posts: 153 Style: Light - Version 4 My Mood:  Thanks: 41
Thanked 18x in 15 Posts Gil: 7,124 Bank: 6,031 Total Gil: 13,155 Donate | Re: Paladin guide 2.0 What do you have in mind to change?  :: Why can't this crazy love be mine? ::
SEVE - HUME WHM (31) BLM (19) THF (17) WAR (9) MNK (5) RNG (9) BLU (1) BRD (1) DNC (1) NIN (1) :: BAHAMUT | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 04-10-2008, 01:30 PM | #50 (permalink) | | GI Jew Join Date: May 2004 Location: South Of Heaven Posts: 700 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 14
Thanked 39x in 21 Posts Gil: 4,056 Bank: 7,936 Total Gil: 11,991 Donate | Re: Paladin guide 2.0 Originally Posted by Tomato_Kai  | | What do you have in mind to change? | Redoing the format, adding some sorely needed updates, and fixing some glaring errors. That b& didn't help me on the updates too much either. ಠ_ಠ | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 04-10-2008, 04:28 PM | #51 (permalink) | | Heir to Odin Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: None of your damn business Posts: 3,812 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood:  Thanks: 846
Thanked 354x in 251 Posts Gil: 131,452 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 131,452 Donate | Re: Paladin guide 2.0 Wall-o-Text much...
There are a lot of good pointers in there but for the love of god remember that formatting is your friend >. > | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 04-10-2008, 04:30 PM | #52 (permalink) | | Black Mage solo fun Join Date: May 2006 Location: Porirua, New Zealand Posts: 154 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood:  Thanks: 40
Thanked 21x in 10 Posts Gil: 14,924 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 14,924 Donate | Re: Paladin guide 2.0 Hey, Dirtyclown's back.
w00tbuckets. Awesome sig picture by Selphiie!  | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 04-11-2008, 07:37 AM | #53 (permalink) | | GI Jew Join Date: May 2004 Location: South Of Heaven Posts: 700 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 14
Thanked 39x in 21 Posts Gil: 4,056 Bank: 7,936 Total Gil: 11,991 Donate | Re: Paladin guide 2.0 | Originally Posted by Malacite | Wall-o-Text much...
There are a lot of good pointers in there but for the love of god remember that formatting is your friend >. > |
The format was crunched together by the forums for some strange reason. I think I'll utilize spoiler tags or something to separate it. | Originally Posted by Empedocles | Hey, Dirtyclown's back.
w00tbuckets. | Nice to see you too. ಠ_ಠ | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 05-24-2008, 03:53 PM | #54 (permalink) | | Loaded With Sodium Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,964 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 448
Thanked 1,591x in 1,001 Posts Gil: 4,806 Bank: 34,530 Total Gil: 39,336 Donate | Re: Paladin guide 2.0 I'm so lost on food. What should I be eating at 21 PLD? Black Curry? Steamed Crab or something like that? I'd rather avoid Lanterns as they aren't that useful stat-wise, but if that's what I should be eating... | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 05-24-2008, 04:33 PM | #55 (permalink) | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: U.S.A Posts: 158 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 7
Thanked 3x in 3 Posts Gil: 8,549 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 8,549 Donate | Re: Paladin guide 2.0 at that level, DEF still matters sooo.... Fish Mithkabobs, steamed crab, shallops tropicale.... that until 55-60ish, at that point you'll be wanting sushi. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Raitox for above post: | | | | 05-24-2008, 04:45 PM | #56 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 951 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood:  Thanks: 237
Thanked 69x in 61 Posts Gil: 1,983 Bank: 112,022 Total Gil: 114,005 Donate | Re: Paladin guide 2.0 | Originally Posted by Murphie | | I'm so lost on food. What should I be eating at 21 PLD? Black Curry? Steamed Crab or something like that? I'd rather avoid Lanterns as they aren't that useful stat-wise, but if that's what I should be eating... | All the food you listed will work, and the difference is not huge. If you are looking for consumable that can make a huge impact at that level range, make juice in the battlefield (if possible).
If the puller knows how to operate with a PLD tank at that level, he/she should give the PLD at least a tick of /heal in between battles. Food that contains some +hMP, such as Black Curry, Rice Dumpling, etc, has advantage in this case.
If the mob is strong and the party has problem defeat before MP/resource runs out, gear swap with MP+ gear (buffer at start of battle) or even MP+ food has its usage. Server: Quetzalcoatl
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75 PLD, 75 SAM, 75 WAR, 75 NIN, 70 MNK, 50 BLU, 39 RDM, 37 DRK, 37 THF, 37 DNC, 33 WHM, 32 PUP, 27 BLM, 26 DRG, 14 RNG | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Celeal for above post: | | | | 05-24-2008, 04:49 PM | #57 (permalink) | | Model A7M2 FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 3,155 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood:  Thanks: 278
Thanked 820x in 435 Posts Gil: 59,378 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 59,378 Donate | Re: Paladin guide 2.0 If I remember right, I used Steamed Crab until they capped out, then it was Fish Kabobs. Every now and then I'd eat meat mithkabobs instead, but a party that could support that didn't happen very often. Mostly in the jungles.
Don't bother with lanterns, if you're going to eat something offensive and you want Acc then make it Rice Dumplings. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Armando for above post: | | | | 05-24-2008, 04:53 PM | #58 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 951 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 237
Thanked 69x in 61 Posts Gil: 1,983 Bank: 112,022 Total Gil: 114,005 Donate | Re: Paladin guide 2.0 | Originally Posted by Armando | If I remember right, I used Steamed Crab until they capped out, then it was Fish Kabobs. Every now and then I'd eat meat mithkabobs instead, but a party that could support that didn't happen very often. Mostly in the jungles.
Don't bother with lanterns, if you're going to eat something offensive and you want Acc then make it Rice Dumplings. | It may not be the case if there is a DNC in party at that level: ACC+ and Drain Samba is a valid combination. Server: Quetzalcoatl
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75 PLD, 75 SAM, 75 WAR, 75 NIN, 70 MNK, 50 BLU, 39 RDM, 37 DRK, 37 THF, 37 DNC, 33 WHM, 32 PUP, 27 BLM, 26 DRG, 14 RNG | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 05-24-2008, 05:00 PM | #59 (permalink) | | Model A7M2 FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 3,155 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 278
Thanked 820x in 435 Posts Gil: 59,378 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 59,378 Donate | Re: Paladin guide 2.0 Yeah, but Rice Dumplings have 5 Acc and Jacks have 10. I don't think +2.5% hit rate is going to outweigh +20% Attack, Drain Samba or not. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | |
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