08-23-2007, 10:38 AM | #1 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 653 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 7 Thanked 28x in 25 Posts Gil: 18,029 Bank: 43,560 Total Gil: 61,589 Donate | Ninja and the Kraken Club.... Last nite Me and a fellow LS Rdm duo'd up in arms and a KC dropped. Since my friend already had one i took it and i've been debating on either AHing it or bazzaring it or just keeping it and using it...
So first question...IS it worth it for a Nin to main or off hand it? ( I'm 75 Nin)
Second, would it be foolish for me to use it in EXP (for rdm @ 65) and Merit parties?
Keeping Purgonorgo Isle clothing optional sine 2004 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-23-2007, 10:44 AM | #2 (permalink) | | Alone Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 3,145 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 251 Thanked 295x in 206 Posts Gil: 18,463 Bank: 21,106 Total Gil: 39,569 Donate | Re: Ninja and the Kraken Club.... Sell it. unless you plan to en- and ballista because you will do nothing but make the mob spam tp moves. It is a toy, not worth the gil imo. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-23-2007, 10:56 AM | #3 (permalink) | | Fan of Murphie Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Largo, FL Posts: 1,590 Style: Light - Version 5 Thanks: 101 Thanked 287x in 170 Posts Gil: 10,345 Bank: 55,801 Total Gil: 66,146 Donate | Re: Ninja and the Kraken Club.... Originally Posted by Malevolent | So first question...IS it worth it for a Nin to main or off hand it? ( I'm 75 Nin)
Second, would it be foolish for me to use it in EXP (for rdm @ 65) and Merit parties? | WARs have a B ranked skill with sword. Any WAR who wants to use Joyeuse and/or Ridill poors 8 merits into sword upgrades, bringing their cap from 250 to 266. Edit: those WARs also tend to have Suppa to further boost sword skill.
NIN has an E ranked skill with club. That means your skill caps at a dismal 200 at level 75. How many merits are you going to need to salvage that mess?
DRKs have a C- rank club skill at least. I've heard of RNGs using K. Club. Not sure how they justify doing so with their E ranked skill. But then, RNG is about big spike damage. NIN is heavily dependent on DoT, so I wouldn't put NIN in the same boat as RNG when it comes to using K. Club for TP building.
Suggestion: if you don't have your club skill capped, go out and use that K Club to cap it... and then sell it. Lyonheart
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Boneworker's Signboard, Bone Purification, Bone Ensorcellment, Filing, Lumberjack, Chainwork | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-23-2007, 11:06 AM | #4 (permalink) | | Alone Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 3,145 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 251 Thanked 295x in 206 Posts Gil: 18,463 Bank: 21,106 Total Gil: 39,569 Donate | Re: Ninja and the Kraken Club.... Originally Posted by LyonheartLakshmi | WARs have a B ranked skill with sword. Any WAR who wants to use Joyeuse and/or Ridill poors 8 merits into sword upgrades, bringing their cap from 250 to 266. Edit: those WARs also tend to have Suppa to further boost sword skill.
NIN has an E ranked skill with club. That means your skill caps at a dismal 200 at level 75. How many merits are you going to need to salvage that mess?
DRKs have a C- rank club skill at least. I've heard of RNGs using K. Club. Not sure how they justify doing so with their E ranked skill. But then, RNG is about big spike damage. NIN is heavily dependent on DoT, so I wouldn't put NIN in the same boat as RNG when it comes to using K. Club for TP building.
Suggestion: if you don't have your club skill capped, go out and use that K Club to cap it... and then sell it. | Any Joyeuse/Ridill war should have suppa, its key. If they have merited weapons they should also have sword merited if they are serious otherwise they tend to fall very far behind.
Nin can get 216 skill on club (merits) which means on your own you are going to miss a good deal. It doesn't really improve you as much as people think it does. Not worth the 42M you can get on kujata. That 42M can pimp the shit out of your nin. (don't even say club torque because you will get hurt)
Drks kraken only works due to bloodweapon and brds boosting the hell out of them, only on hnm zerg types.
Rngs use kraken for a gun build it takes alot of gear, if i remember the set up right, it is not for everyone.
Ninjas can also almost attack at hundred fists speed with march, and katanas will out damage clubs. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-23-2007, 11:13 AM | #5 (permalink) | | X's General FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 3,007 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 260 Thanked 754x in 409 Posts Gil: 50,811 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 50,811 Donate | Re: Ninja and the Kraken Club.... | Quote: | | DRKs have a C- rank club skill at least. I've heard of RNGs using K. Club. Not sure how they justify doing so with their E ranked skill. But then, RNG is about big spike damage. NIN is heavily dependent on DoT, so I wouldn't put NIN in the same boat as RNG when it comes to using K. Club for TP building. | Justification:
Accuracy difference between B+ and E: -51
Accuracy Bonus IV: +48
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Difference: -3
That and Slug Shot damage having nothing to do with what they equip in their main hand slot. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-23-2007, 11:13 AM | #6 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,644 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 143 Thanked 37x in 30 Posts Gil: 2,592 Bank: 307 Total Gil: 2,899 Donate | Re: Ninja and the Kraken Club.... I'm a DRK75, so I'd end up keeping it, but if I just had RDM & NIN I'd most likely cash it in for other items I need or wanted. It's useful for RDM in the fact that you can cap Club in quick order, but pretty much no use for NIN.
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Odude 6 - Maat 1 The Taco Spot | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-23-2007, 11:23 AM | #7 (permalink) | | factcheck.org Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,916 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1,707 Thanked 1,544x in 1,078 Posts Gil: 12,919 Bank: 589,440 Total Gil: 602,359 Donate | Re: Ninja and the Kraken Club.... Decide if you'd rather have a fun toy, or useful gear. I personally would rather have a toy, but I collect(ed) rare shit | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-23-2007, 01:10 PM | #8 (permalink) | | Heir to Odin Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: None of your damn business Posts: 3,608 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 778 Thanked 335x in 235 Posts Gil: 112,810 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 112,810 Donate | Re: Ninja and the Kraken Club.... DRK abuse the hell out of it with /DRG, Blood Weapon and Souleater (4000 dmg jumps anyone?) | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-23-2007, 04:23 PM | #9 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,644 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 143 Thanked 37x in 30 Posts Gil: 2,592 Bank: 307 Total Gil: 2,899 Donate | Re: Ninja and the Kraken Club.... Originally Posted by Malacite | | DRK abuse the hell out of it with /DRG, Blood Weapon and Souleater (4000 dmg jumps anyone?) | Y'know, I never thought about what would happen if a full Kraken proc'd off a Jump. lol
But I would like to bust it out to cap Club, or use on Latents with building TP, (As if DRK needs any more help building TP.) or use it as SAM/RNG to spam Sidewinder. If I had one, I'd keep it.  [font="Comic Sans MS"]Odude
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Odude 6 - Maat 1 The Taco Spot | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-24-2007, 08:11 AM | #10 (permalink) | | Lightness Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,393 Style: Light - Version 4 My Mood: Thanks: 92 Thanked 129x in 77 Posts Gil: 10,491 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 10,491 Donate | Re: Ninja and the Kraken Club.... why dont you hold on to it for the time being. dont be so hasty to sell it. it's a very rare item and you might want it in the future, who knows. just hold on to it and see how it works out for you. if you really have no use for it ever and ever, sell it.
kc really isnt an item that drops to rock bottom prices b/c it will never be a common item like they did with thf knife or alky bracelets.
if u ever decide to lvl drk, you'll pretty much have an auto-pass into most hnmls.
as far as using it goes, for nin i wouldnt really use it just because your skill is so low in it. however if you do use it for nin, it goes in off-hand always. keep your best katana main hand so you can spam those blade:jin's. for rng, it doesnt really matter which hand its in. its for the mere purpose of gaining tp and like armando said, it doesnt matter how your main hand skill is, rng dont calcuate dmg with that skill anyways. it'll be your marks/archery skills that do the calculations as a rng. Omni@Remora: NIN75 RNG75 MNK75 COR75 BST63 BRD45
♪♫ San d'Oria Complete ♪♫ ZM Complete ♪♫ CoP Complete ♪♫ AM Complete ♪♫ | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-24-2007, 08:32 AM | #11 (permalink) | | Alone Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 3,145 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 251 Thanked 295x in 206 Posts Gil: 18,463 Bank: 21,106 Total Gil: 39,569 Donate | Re: Ninja and the Kraken Club.... selllllll it pimp out your jobs and have money in the bank | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-24-2007, 09:38 AM | #12 (permalink) | | Heir to Odin Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: None of your damn business Posts: 3,608 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 778 Thanked 335x in 235 Posts Gil: 112,810 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 112,810 Donate | Re: Ninja and the Kraken Club.... I'd hold onto it personally. Like Omni said, it's a very rare (and powerful) item (in the right job's hands) and it's also great for silly fun (See MNK Hundred Fists + Kraken XD)
Sure, you could sell it for a whole crapload of gil. But you can always get more gil. Odds are you won't see another one of those clubs ever again. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-24-2007, 10:39 AM | #13 (permalink) | | Fan of Murphie Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Largo, FL Posts: 1,590 Style: Light - Version 5 Thanks: 101 Thanked 287x in 170 Posts Gil: 10,345 Bank: 55,801 Total Gil: 66,146 Donate | Re: Ninja and the Kraken Club.... ... and then the thread degenerated into Sev and Malacite going back and forth with "Sell it!", "No, keep it!" in true Bugs Bunny vs Daffy Duck style. Lyonheart
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Boneworker's Signboard, Bone Purification, Bone Ensorcellment, Filing, Lumberjack, Chainwork | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-24-2007, 11:07 AM | #14 (permalink) | | X's General FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 3,007 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 260 Thanked 754x in 409 Posts Gil: 50,811 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 50,811 Donate | Re: Ninja and the Kraken Club.... You're despicable. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-24-2007, 11:09 AM | #15 (permalink) | | Pyro-Medic Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,308 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 187 Thanked 101x in 64 Posts Gil: 11,801 Bank: 42,887 Total Gil: 54,688 Donate | Re: Ninja and the Kraken Club.... I'd say to keep it. I had one at one time borrowed from a friend, and it was fun to use... on my whm/nin hahaha. hexa-fun!
Too bad I can't get another one, I'd go back to playing whm/nin full time and just go solo stuff like a mad man. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:56 AM. | | |