Ninja's who say "Ni"

[Eji Kazuma]

Okay... I finally made Ninja level 37 now comes the next hurdle of obtaining the Ni teir spells, namely Utsusemi Ni.

I really want to feel like I've accomplished something as a Ninja... I don't want to buy these spells if I don't HAVE to. I just wanted to see if anyone could give me some pointers on obtaining Utsusemi Ni.

I've never done a BCNM, but I've heard from a few other Nin's that the best ones to try for this one are "Royal Jellies" or "Under Observation". Only major issue I have with these is that as a level 37 Nin I really don't feel very confident in my ability to deal enough damage to make it through a 40 cap BCNM at level 37.

Any pointers or advice is GREATLY appreciated.

thanks in advance,
-Eji: Diabolos Server

[Wise Donkey]

The "Petrifying Pair" BCNM 30 drops Utsu: Ni and is fairly easy with the right setup and medication. I believe it has a lower chance of dropping the scroll, but you also have a chance of getting other items to sell. I would call it an accomplishment of equal value to get a pair of Leaping Boots, which you could then sell to get Utsu: Ni. It is not your fault of the BCNM doesn't drop it.

[Aeolus]

You could do royal jelly with DD, you and a mage (preferably a dd mage). It will take a bit longer as you dont have the tier II elemental ninjitsu yet. Check out wiki for the BCs that drop it. There are links at the bottom of the specific BC pages to Stratagies on beating them with lots of different combo's. Alot of BCs drop Ni.

[eticket109]

If you can find two DRG/WHMs then you can do Royal Jelly with little or no problem. Two DRGs can duo it with meds and while you won't do as much damage, you should be able to help them speed up the process.

[Jei]

Under Observation is a really easy BC. However, you really need to be 40 Nin and already have all Ni spells to win it.

[Eji Kazuma]

Ahh.. Petrifing pair... yeah I tried that one... it didn't go well. did it as THF with my DRG friend and a WHM and we got Wrecked LOL. It was pretty sad...

I feel very noobish on the game in the fact that I haven't accomplished much and I've been playing for over a year. One thing I have wondered is, when you use an orb and you actually BEAT the BCNM does it use the orb up, or do you get to keep it?

[eticket109]

You keep the orb but it's broken and can't be reused. Supposedly, trading the old orbs back to Shami will help build Jeuno fame.

[Eji Kazuma]

Eeee... Wow... guess I better hope I get the drop on the first run through then. I'm down to like 29 Beastman seals and I have one star orb and one cloudy orb.

So I could try either royal jellies or Petrifing pair. I have a pretty cool mid-low level LS so it shouldn't be too hard to get folks together for this run.

Only other grounds to touch is, what about the Ni elemental's? are they also BCNM? or are they dropped off mobs?

[Taskmage]

Ni elemental spells are dropped off of Yagudo Conquistadors in Oztroja and Castle Zvahl, but those mobs would be IT to you.

[Eji Kazuma]

So I will need to get some highlevel support for that... that will work out fine I suppose I need to go to Oztroja to get the magicite for rank 5 shortly anyway, I'll just have to do it as a THF.

Btw Taskmage, I gotta say, your banners are really cool... I like that they change... and the quotes are cool too. ^_^

Thanks for the help everyone, I'll let ya know how it goes. Think I'm gonna try and run Petrifing Pair again and see where it lands me.

[Wise Donkey]

This thread has some good tips for beating Petrifying Pair. Good luck to you.

[Sabaron]

I vote for Royal Jelly. It's super easy. As for the other Ni's they're easy. You can farm them from Yagudos if you like or just buy them.

[Eji Kazuma]

K... I tried this last night, and I guess I kinda set us up for demise. I wanted to take Thf for Treasure Hunter, so instead of being a smart little Eji and just going War/Nin like I was supposed to, I went as Thf/Nin.

Team was SAM/WAR, THF/NIN, and RDM/BLM, things went okay till about halfway through killing the Red Lizzie, our RDM started to run back and forth kinda desperately as she struggled to keep the lizzie bound and gavitied. Then, once she started to bottom out on MP it was kinda all over.

We had the Red Lizzie down to the point that one hit would take it out, but once the RDM dropped eventually so did the SAM shortly after. It was a pretty messy ordeal, but honestly I didn't think they would be THAT difficult to take out. I may try again, but as low on seals as I am I'll probably just wind up having to buy Utsusemi Ni if the run at Royal Jellies doesn't go better. T_T

[Wise Donkey]

I wanted to take Thf for Treasure Hunter,

Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think TH effects what you get from BCNM.

[Sevv]

Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think TH effects what you get from BCNM.

i have always been up in the air on this i usually get worse drops when i take a thf along =x