04-19-2007, 08:22 PM | #16 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 363 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 11 Thanked 17x in 14 Posts Gil: 5,105 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 5,105 Donate | Re: Seeking Game Masters: French/English and German/English Speakers (04/17/2007) Forwarding =/= talking with the Devs. You mentioned forwarding in an earlier post and went right back to saying talk with the devs, in the corporate world those two mean different things. If you don't want thing reitterated, Learn2Type. And drop the 'read first part only' whining, it got old awhile ago. Server: Hades -Cleverness, Hume, 64RDM/53BLU/37WHM/27NIN/21SMN/18BLM/12PLD/10SCH
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[GM]Dave>> That's what he didn't not said. The School of the Undefeated of the East! The winds of the king! Zenshin! Keiretsu! Tempa Kyoran! Look! The East is Burning Red! | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-20-2007, 12:06 AM | #17 (permalink) | | Dr. Tran Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles, Ca. Posts: 1,512 Style: Dark - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 35 Thanked 103x in 84 Posts Gil: 435 Bank: 43,078 Total Gil: 43,513 Donate | Re: Seeking Game Masters: French/English and German/English Speakers (04/17/2007) Unless we know someone personally that works at SE, we won't know how exactly the GM's and the dev team work there. They might talk directly, they might not. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-20-2007, 09:45 AM | #18 (permalink) | | thf/war&nin&drk Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 912 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 23 Thanked 19x in 18 Posts Gil: 11,141 Bank: 15,522 Total Gil: 26,662 Donate | Re: Seeking Game Masters: French/English and German/English Speakers (04/17/2007) How much work do GMs have to do and what do they get paid? 
fk yes | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-20-2007, 09:48 AM | #19 (permalink) | | Dr. Tran Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles, Ca. Posts: 1,512 Style: Dark - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 35 Thanked 103x in 84 Posts Gil: 435 Bank: 43,078 Total Gil: 43,513 Donate | Re: Seeking Game Masters: French/English and German/English Speakers (04/17/2007) Originally Posted by 711rocks | | How much work do GMs have to do and what do they get paid? | I saw a picture of GM's "at work" and one of them looked like he was asleep in his chair. :D | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-20-2007, 09:51 AM | #20 (permalink) | | thf/war&nin&drk Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 912 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 23 Thanked 19x in 18 Posts Gil: 11,141 Bank: 15,522 Total Gil: 26,662 Donate | Re: Seeking Game Masters: French/English and German/English Speakers (04/17/2007) Originally Posted by Eohmer | | I saw a picture of GM's "at work" and one of them looked like he was asleep in his chair. :D | Ya that's what I figured. 
fk yes | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-20-2007, 09:53 AM | #21 (permalink) | | Pointy Stick Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,004 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 450 Thanked 360x in 222 Posts Gil: 16,146 Bank: 58,903 Total Gil: 75,050 Donate | Re: Seeking Game Masters: French/English and German/English Speakers (04/17/2007) Its probably like most other customer service jobs. Most likely its a 35-40 hour/week position that pays $9-10 an hour to start.
Wii code: 6851 9579 6989 9039 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-20-2007, 10:34 AM | #22 (permalink) | | Pai Pai Lackey Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 5,242 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 4 Thanked 29x in 24 Posts Gil: 39,907 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 39,907 Donate | Re: Seeking Game Masters: French/English and German/English Speakers (04/17/2007) For the point of GMs communicating with Devs, I just have to say this. Each corporation works differently, some corporations have a request log. When an error is found it's logged on the requests, the developers review the log, and then create a solution.
In the case of EQ GMs not talking to the Devs, that is completly false. I use to be a Guide in EQ (a quazi-GMish still player type position), the guides are assigned to a GM and they assist in carrying out whatever issues come up. Anything they do they have to report to the GMs.
Now when working with the GMs and requests I've sent in, I've had contact with many of the developers. In particular a dev. who's character name is prathen (Might be misspelling it, always get it wrong). So the developers do communicate with the GMs in EQ, however if that is the case with FFXI is not really known. So it is possible. Seeing how SE has been setting things up, I think it's more likely that the developers have liasons to handle communications to them. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-20-2007, 11:13 AM | #23 (permalink) | | factcheck.org Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,920 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1,708 Thanked 1,545x in 1,079 Posts Gil: 13,789 Bank: 601,228 Total Gil: 615,018 Donate | Re: Seeking Game Masters: French/English and German/English Speakers (04/17/2007) Just something i'd like to tack onto Macht's post: remember that NA GMs are handled by SoE (Or at least, they used to be), so it wouldn't be surprising if they used EQ's GM structure. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-20-2007, 12:51 PM | #24 (permalink) | | Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,577 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 173 Thanked 107x in 67 Posts Gil: 12,382 Bank: 52,111 Total Gil: 64,492 Donate | Re: Seeking Game Masters: French/English and German/English Speakers (04/17/2007) I speak fluent English, a decent amount of Japaneese, a small amount of Germans and a few French words. I wonder if all that added together makes two fluent languages...  | Originally Posted by Ellipses | | Really, it's just like pretty much every question about this game that begins with "Why." The answer is "Because." | | Originally Posted by MCLV | | A subjob is like sex, you shouldn't have it untill your 18 but if you don't have it after 21 everyone laughs at you. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-20-2007, 01:23 PM | #25 (permalink) | | factcheck.org Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,920 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1,708 Thanked 1,545x in 1,079 Posts Gil: 13,789 Bank: 601,228 Total Gil: 615,018 Donate | Re: Seeking Game Masters: French/English and German/English Speakers (04/17/2007) | Quote: | | a small amount of Germans | You sure about that? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Feba for above post: | | | 04-20-2007, 02:33 PM | #26 (permalink) | | Pai Pai Lackey Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 5,242 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 4 Thanked 29x in 24 Posts Gil: 39,907 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 39,907 Donate | Re: Seeking Game Masters: French/English and German/English Speakers (04/17/2007) Originally Posted by Feba | | You sure about that? | Well he did say speak, not type.  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-20-2007, 10:30 PM | #27 (permalink) | | Play toy Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Washington, England Posts: 1,018 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 103 Thanked 127x in 60 Posts Gil: 15,166 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 15,166 Donate | Re: Seeking Game Masters: French/English and German/English Speakers (04/17/2007) Originally Posted by Macht | | I use to be a Guide in EQ (a quazi-GMish still player type position), the guides are assigned to a GM and they assist in carrying out whatever issues come up. Anything they do they have to report to the GMs. | Did you get to go to Sunset Home? I always wanted to see that area. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-25-2007, 10:14 PM | #28 (permalink) | | Programming Slave Administrator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: California, USA Posts: 1,556 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 65 Thanked 60x in 29 Posts Gil: 39,182 Bank: 20,883,294 Total Gil: 20,922,476 Donate | Re: Seeking Game Masters: French/English and German/English Speakers (04/17/2007) Well, since I DID go to the SquareEnix office and got a tour.... let me de-mystify some things for you in regards to this.
There are only TWO GM Teams for FFXI: Japanese and Other.
The Japanese GM Team is in Japan
The remainder of the GM Team members are all in Los Angeles. The German and French GMs are in Los Angeles (if you haven't figured that out from the job posting). They have a constant 24/7 video/audio feed into both the Tokyo and LA GM rooms and have a Network Operations Center Manager there 24/7 as a communication liason connecting the two GM Teams. So for the European players, your support members are in the U.S.
The head Community Manager of Japan talks to the Dev Team.
Based upon what was all said and how things seems to work......
Any INTERNAL requests for the Dev Team, like tools, work features, etc. probably runs by the GM Team head in the US, to the GM Team head in Japan, who then talks to the Community Manager head in Japan. Any EXTERNAL (us players) dev team communications goes through the Community Managers in the US, then through the Operations Manager/Game Producer in the US, then to the Japanese Community Manager.
But this is my guess. It is possible that the US GM Head has to talk to the Operations Manager/Game Producer.  Signature was intentionally left blank. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to AKosygin for above post: | | | 04-25-2007, 10:45 PM | #29 (permalink) | | Raison d'etre Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 489 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 74 Thanked 24x in 18 Posts Gil: 8,994 Bank: 4,154 Total Gil: 13,148 Donate | Re: Seeking Game Masters: French/English and German/English Speakers (04/17/2007) I didn't know their populations were high enough to warrent GM's. I have yet to encounter any players fluent in French and all the German speakers I've met have communicated in English predominantly.  Twilightrose- THF/49 WAR/24 WHM/53 BLM/32 RNG/15 BST/25 NIN/27 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:31 AM. | | |