01-31-2006, 07:46 PM | #16 (permalink) | | Undeniably Banned Join Date: May 2004 Location: Where there is pumpkin pies and high fives! Posts: 1,744 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 12x in 2 Posts Gil: 27,126 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 27,126 Donate | Re: New SE MMORPG in the works SE is doing something very stupid if they plan on charging +10 dollars for each of their MMORPGs, which is numbered at 4 when all of them come out. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-31-2006, 07:47 PM | #17 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Honolulu Posts: 2,251 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 63 Thanked 34x in 20 Posts Gil: 15,548 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 15,548 Donate | Re: New SE MMORPG in the works I fail to see what this has anything to do with XBox 360 by itself. If SE is developing a brand new MMORPG, it might come out when the successor to XBox 360 is released ... I'm hedging that they should focus releasing the game out on PC instead, the way Blizzard did with WOW (And they succeeded, surpassing 7 million accounts I believe) Consoles will be long dead unless PS3 and the technology it hypes changes this ... this is the primary reason why FFXI hasn't undergone major changes ... only content additions. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-31-2006, 09:39 PM | #18 (permalink) | | The Closer Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,948 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 149 Thanked 578x in 362 Posts Gil: 12,915 Bank: 27,301 Total Gil: 40,216 Donate | Re: New SE MMORPG in the works | Originally Posted by neighbortaru | | oh joy. as if we don't have enough Xxsephirothxx's and Xcloudx's running around... |
The other day I saw a Sephirothsan on our server. I said to my son that Sefhirothsan, Sefirothsan, Sephirothsama, Sephirothkun, blah blah blah would soon be seen!! LOL Seriously, try to be ORIGINAL! | Originally Posted by Kamodake | umm... I dont think they are reffering to the the FFVII tech demo they showed honestly, pretty sure they are talking about the tech demo they showed when they announced FFXI was coming out for the 360. Remember that was the one with the city on the water and the people in FFXI-esque clothing walking around. They said something about seeing the future like that or something.
Anyway will be neat to see what they end up with. | I guess we'll just have to wait and see. "Tech Demo" was all the article said and the FF7 was a tech demo also. Personally I think they would make MINT if they did a FF7 MMO. But like I said to my son.........Build a FF game and they will come! Some people are like Slinkys , totally useless but they still put a smile on your face when you push them down a flight of stairs. | Originally Posted by WishMaster3K | | The vagina is a magical object. | | Originally Posted by Balfree | | AND running the game at 2024x2024 resolution, with forced AA and AF o boy, you can even see that galka's pubes. | Originally Posted by Aksannyi | | FFXIOnline.com - "Where women are not constantly begged to show tits or GTFO!" | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-31-2006, 10:57 PM | #19 (permalink) | | Psylocke's Pal Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Windurst Posts: 3,238 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 7 Thanked 24x in 14 Posts Gil: 61,089 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 61,089 Donate | Re: New SE MMORPG in the works | Originally Posted by Aeni | | I fail to see what this has anything to do with XBox 360 by itself. If SE is developing a brand new MMORPG, it might come out when the successor to XBox 360 is released ... I'm hedging that they should focus releasing the game out on PC instead, the way Blizzard did with WOW (And they succeeded, surpassing 7 million accounts I believe) Consoles will be long dead unless PS3 and the technology it hypes changes this ... this is the primary reason why FFXI hasn't undergone major changes ... only content additions. | You also have to realize that with WoW, they released their game in regions that SE did not. Namely Korea and China. Why China/Korea and Japan have bad history with each other. When I lived there Thats all you here on the news. | Originally Posted by TheGrandMom | | LOL How ironic! The tech demo is the cg demo of FF7 and about 3 weeks ago my son and I were discussing the future of FFXI. One of the things I said to him was that there was going to be another MMO of a FF game. Then I told him that the smart thing for them would be to make a MMO of FF7 because of the high fan base for the game. This really isn't a huge surprise I don't think. | FF7 wouldnt make a good mmo at all just my opinion. I do firmly believe thi sis the tech demo they were talking about.
I also think the producer lied about development being at 0% because of this screenie below.
This is a concept screenie of FFXI Online: Another World
The airship design is what interests me in particular. Also Its well knwon That SE used the Maya software to design The Spirits Within Movie, Maya can easily be translated into a playable game format. The characters in FFXI resemble a lower poly version of those seen in FF:SW. They coulda been working on this for a long time in anticipation of a new system or better PC's. Besides if they were at 0%(lie.LIE,LIE,LIE..) why do the tech demo pics look so good and highly detailed?
I've done working models and tech demos for architectural homes and CAD designs. and You never, NEVER have a demo set up that can't be used in an actual floorplan or modified into a future state. PERIOD, its a fundamental of programming and design.
These are the Tech demo pics
Look at sephiroths face in this demo pic of FFVII.
It has slightly higher poly count than the woman in the above picture.
This pic below is a close up of a typical Bryce 5 Doll.
But when dealign with computer generated images its really easy to cut/paste hair and such onto a Doll. I play with photoshop/poser/Bryce/ studio max/VRS religiously. and its stupidly easy to do. It takes VERY little time for one experienced person to create a fully crafted Nude Doll with a skeleton. Maybe 1-2 weeks tops, That involves very little development costs. The actual time sink comes in placing that doll realistically in the environment which can take a month or more. Since it has to be tested completely for collision detection.
So Ill say this again LIE,LIE,LIE, they're pretty far into development, Id say by a year or more. | Originally Posted by Kamodake | umm... I dont think they are reffering to the the FFVII tech demo they showed honestly, pretty sure they are talking about the tech demo they showed when they announced FFXI was coming out for the 360. Remember that was the one with the city on the water and the people in FFXI-esque clothing walking around. They said something about seeing the future like that or something.
Anyway will be neat to see what they end up with. |
/agrees with Velen /slaps him.. /pokes Momi's eyes out ^^ | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-31-2006, 11:41 PM | #20 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Honolulu Posts: 2,251 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 63 Thanked 34x in 20 Posts Gil: 15,548 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 15,548 Donate | Re: New SE MMORPG in the works Taz,
Is it quite possible that the tech demo used might've been existing data that was used in creating FFXII? That all they did was embellish that world a tad bit to make it look like FFXI and that SMN character in AF is probably the model that the current one is based on (albeit, at a much poorer quality) ... therefore, you do not need to have an actual set from scratch taken from a game in development. You could do the very same with existing data from other sources.
I'm intrigued. What do SE do with all that stored optical data from previous works? Do they just transfer them to new media continually or do they purge them after a while? When they dismantled the Honolulu office here several years back, I didn't go to the auction which I was invited to (Only a handful of people were contacted and sent invitations) I regret this very much, because I could've gotten a rack of servers for cheap and a small chance that there might've been data that was not overwritten >.> | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-01-2006, 12:21 AM | #21 (permalink) | | The Closer Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,948 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 149 Thanked 578x in 362 Posts Gil: 12,915 Bank: 27,301 Total Gil: 40,216 Donate | Re: New SE MMORPG in the works OH GOOD LORD!!! I hope they aren't going to call it "Another World"! Lame! and besides there is a soap opera with that name. Let's not give people a head start on the drama idea!  Some people are like Slinkys , totally useless but they still put a smile on your face when you push them down a flight of stairs. | Originally Posted by WishMaster3K | | The vagina is a magical object. | | Originally Posted by Balfree | | AND running the game at 2024x2024 resolution, with forced AA and AF o boy, you can even see that galka's pubes. | Originally Posted by Aksannyi | | FFXIOnline.com - "Where women are not constantly begged to show tits or GTFO!" | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-01-2006, 12:49 AM | #22 (permalink) | | Red means I love you Super Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 3,129 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 79 Thanked 220x in 128 Posts Gil: 46,366 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 46,366 Donate | Re: New SE MMORPG in the works The first names are usually just bogus aliases, i think we will actually get a FFXIV online :x
And, tazirai was way ahead of me, i wanted to clarify that the tech demo they mentioned was prolly the one in taz's post, and not FF7's. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-01-2006, 12:52 AM | #23 (permalink) | | <3 Valkurm Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 969 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 59 Thanked 25x in 17 Posts Gil: 11,608 Bank: 9,751 Total Gil: 21,359 Donate | Re: New SE MMORPG in the works I remember seeing "Final Fantasy XI: Online Another World" as the original title for FFXI waaaay back in '98 or '99. BLM 75 | RDM 37 | WHM 42 | SCH 56 | BST 22 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-01-2006, 05:34 AM | #24 (permalink) | | Achiever Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 2,626 Style: Light - Version 4 My Mood: Thanks: 442 Thanked 238x in 139 Posts Gil: 5,472 Bank: 95,000 Total Gil: 100,472 Donate | Re: New SE MMORPG in the works | Originally Posted by TheGrandMom | | I hope they aren't going to call it "Another World"! Lame! and besides there is a soap opera with that name. Let's not give people a head start on the drama idea! | Drama - HL LS thrive on it, and it is unlikely to go anywhere without it because adolescents are greedy bastards  Maybe making the next online FF Soap Opera based would give us a never ending story. It'll be awsome, a recurring character, suddenly, gets replaced by a younger, hotter, actor, without any warning, the story takes expected twists and turns, and the web of who slept with who gets even deeper!
It'll be sooooooo awsome! Originally Posted by Aksannyi | | I swear some melee would forget their fucking weapon if they didn't have it equipped every time they logged in. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-01-2006, 08:03 AM | #25 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Belgium, Europe Posts: 53 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,381 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,381 Donate | Re: New SE MMORPG in the works | Originally Posted by TheGrandMom | | OH GOOD LORD!!! I hope they aren't going to call it "Another World"! |
Oh no's!  Does it really bother you that much? I mean, if the game is great, why be bothered by what it goes by...  "There is no such thing as bad ideas, there's just a lack of will to execute them..." Special thanks to Kagerou for the "colorgift" sig. Last edited by Doutreligne : 02-01-2006 at 09:13 AM. Reason: Incorrect smiley | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-01-2006, 08:52 AM | #26 (permalink) | | The Closer Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,948 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 149 Thanked 578x in 362 Posts Gil: 12,915 Bank: 27,301 Total Gil: 40,216 Donate | Re: New SE MMORPG in the works | Originally Posted by Doutreligne |
Oh no's! :p Does it really bother you that much? I mean, if the game is great, why be bothered by what it goes by... | It was a joke, hence the  ??  Some people are like Slinkys , totally useless but they still put a smile on your face when you push them down a flight of stairs. | Originally Posted by WishMaster3K | | The vagina is a magical object. | | Originally Posted by Balfree | | AND running the game at 2024x2024 resolution, with forced AA and AF o boy, you can even see that galka's pubes. | Originally Posted by Aksannyi | | FFXIOnline.com - "Where women are not constantly begged to show tits or GTFO!" | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-01-2006, 09:13 AM | #27 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Belgium, Europe Posts: 53 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,381 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,381 Donate | Re: New SE MMORPG in the works Oh, I know, but I saw this is the oppertune time to use my Drama Bomb.  I don't get to use it very often... "There is no such thing as bad ideas, there's just a lack of will to execute them..." Special thanks to Kagerou for the "colorgift" sig. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-01-2006, 10:23 AM | #28 (permalink) | | custom title Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 785 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 8 Thanked 4x in 4 Posts Gil: 15,317 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 15,317 Donate | Re: New SE MMORPG in the works Thats the first time Ive ever seen a "drama bomb" picture. It gave me a good laugh. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-01-2006, 10:32 AM | #29 (permalink) | | Psylocke's Pal Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Windurst Posts: 3,238 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 7 Thanked 24x in 14 Posts Gil: 61,089 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 61,089 Donate | Re: New SE MMORPG in the works | Originally Posted by Coinspinner | | I remember seeing "Final Fantasy XI: Online Another World" as the original title for FFXI waaaay back in '98 or '99. | You are correct sir, Thats when I first became interested in a Final Fantasy MMO and here 7 years later Im still playing ^^.
FFXI: Another World was the former name of FFXI, If you imported FFX when it was out in Japan, then the demo video came with it.
SE doesnt need to wai tfor technological advances hehe they help pioneer it. Same way Nintendo helped pioneer playing cards in the 1800's^^. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-02-2006, 10:33 AM | #30 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Belgium, Europe Posts: 53 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,381 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,381 Donate | Re: New SE MMORPG in the works | Originally Posted by Battle Angel | | Thats the first time Ive ever seen a "drama bomb" picture. It gave me a good laugh. | Then my work is done. <Claps hands in order to rid them of dust> "There is no such thing as bad ideas, there's just a lack of will to execute them..." Special thanks to Kagerou for the "colorgift" sig. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:55 PM. | | |