[LilithAngel]

Introducing the Square Enix Security Token (03/10/2009)

As a result of growing account security concerns within the online gaming community, Square Enix is proud to introduce the Square Enix Security Token. The token greatly increases the security of PlayOnline accounts by allowing users to log on by using a constantly changing one-time password that is displayed on the screen. The Square Enix Security Token will be available for purchase through the PlayOnline Viewer in the near future for those who wish to take advantage of the added security this optional service provides. As a special incentive, each Square Enix Security Token will come with an exciting in-game bonus which may just prove indispensible during your many adventures in Vana'diel!

Information on the Security Token's release date and price, as well as further details regarding the in-game bonus, will be announced at a later date.

[Feba]

Liked it right up to the "awesome ingame item!" bit. Really, SE, you do realize people will buy some things without being bribed, right?

Also, am I the only one that would prefer it to be part of the password, instead of the entire thing? These things are basically as secure as car keys; just fine up until your prick family steal them for pranks or stupidity. For example, just have it at the beginning of the password, or even an extra field in POL's login screen. That way you get the security of a password that constantly changes AND a key that can't be physically stolen.

[Raydeus]

If it works like the netkey from banks then you just have to register your key generator number and from that moment on it will ask you for both your password plus the random key every time you log-in in this format:

ID: ********
Password: ********
Random key: ********

I'd definitely buy it, but sadly I doubt it will be available for MX.



...then again, is not like I'm still playing anyway. <_<;

[Malacite]

Originally Posted by Feba

Liked it right up to the "awesome ingame item!" bit. Really, SE, you do realize people will buy some things without being bribed, right?

It's not a bribe, it's an added bonus =3

I'd get this just for the added security (credit info and all that jazz >_>) but nao I'm curious about the in-game item too!

[Feba]

Originally Posted by Malacite

It's not a bribe, it's an added bonus =3

I'd get this just for the added security (credit info and all that jazz >_>) but nao I'm curious about the in-game item too!

You do realize that you disproved your own argument, right?

And Raydeus, worst case scenario you can find someone you have moderate short-term trust in stateside and have them buy it for your account and then ship it to you.

[Mhurron]

Originally Posted by Feba

Liked it right up to the "awesome ingame item!" bit. Really, SE, you do realize people will buy some things without being bribed, right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_bundling
The in game item will work to get the word around to people that might not see the original announcement. There is also the group of people that don't understand what SE is doing here and wouldn't buy it because of that without the item.

[Feba]

Originally Posted by Mhurron

The in game item will work to get the word around to people that might not see the original announcement.

Better solution, a notice after you log in for every POL login that doesn't use one. Also add a note to the server message for a couple months.

Originally Posted by Mhurron

There is also the group of people that don't understand what SE is doing here

And there's the group that doesn't understand why using secure passwords or anti-malware software is a good idea. Is SE going to start handing out ingame items based on how complex your password is, to encourage strong ones? Or start putting in-game items in with sales of McAfee?

Originally Posted by Mhurron

wouldn't buy it because of that without the item.

Is there an echo in here?

[Durahansolo]

ID Token
[Neck]
RMT ONRY
INT +5. Hidden Effect: Haxx +10, Account Stealing Ability +1.

[Feba]

Originally Posted by Durahansolo

AGI+5

fixed.

[Mhurron]

Originally Posted by Feba

Better solution, a notice after you log in for every POL login that doesn't use one. Also add a note to the server message for a couple months.

LIke all passive notices, no one reads them. Players do however notice gear.

Originally Posted by Feba

Is SE going to start handing out ingame items based on how complex your password is, to encourage strong ones? Or start putting in-game items in with sales of McAfee?

Are they selling a device to generate strong passwords? Are they partnered with an AV software provider? Once either of those happen, then ya, they also might make an in game promotional item.

Originally Posted by Feba

Is there an echo in here?

Only if you're a complete idiot. I see you are.

[Feba]

Originally Posted by Mhurron

LIke all passive notices, no one reads them. Players do however notice gear.

So what you're telling me is that people who ignore every half-way intelligent corporation, organization, group and guideline on the planet in terms of keeping themselves secure will keep themselves safe if you give someone a shiny bit of equipment to wear? Really? Not to mention the fact that most special in-game items have been rewards for attending various fan events or buying collectable merchandise, not practical things.

Originally Posted by Mhurron

Once either of those happen, then ya, they also might make an in game promotional item.

I wasn't asking if they might. I was (quite rhetorically) asking if they should. As in, should every goddamn little thing SE sells include an in-game item, whether it warrants it or not?

Originally Posted by Mhurron

Only if you're a complete idiot. I see you are.

Except I'm rubber! And you're glue! TAKE THAT!

[Ziero]

Originally Posted by Feba

I wasn't asking if they might. I was (quite rhetorically) asking if they should. As in, should every goddamn little thing SE sells include an in-game item, whether it warrants it or not?

If it pushes people who are on the fence over the edge into buying their garbage, then yes.

Because, when push comes to shove, there are many people who won't buy stuff without being "bribed". And when you can successfully increase the sales of your physical product by including a damn near free-to-produce digital product, then most companies will eagerly throw in that added bonus.

They don't "have" to include the "free item", but they do because it makes them more money.

[Illuen]

Originally Posted by Feba

I wasn't asking if they might. I was (quite rhetorically) asking if they should. As in, should every goddamn little thing SE sells include an in-game item, whether it warrants it or not?

From a business standpoint, hell yes. It costs them very little to take the time to code the item and create the graphics for said item, and if it helps them push more items (which it will, because there will be people who buy it only for the item code, just like people many people bought the tidal talisman for the in game item instead of the necklace itself) then it has proved a worthy investment. You're selling the security token, of course, and quite a few people are going to buy it on their own to be safe, but you're also selling the in game item, which will tip people thinking "Well, I think my password is pretty safe, and I'm pretty smart about my computer's security" into deciding to buy it, and also get the people who don't want/need the extra security, but are loot whores.

Since that was a bit TL;DR, yes they do need to add items to everything they sell.

ETA: Damnit, Ziero, you ninja!

[Ziero]

/ma "Tonko: Ni" <me>

[Solymir]

I finally got a look at the picture of this (I can't see most links on my work computer), and it reminds me of the SecurID token I use for work. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SecurID These things are great for making secure connections. For those not familiar, it will display a new 6 digit numeric code every minute. The code that is displayed at the time of login is of course the one that will authenticate. So if the code changes before you hit enter odds are you'll have to try again. The one I use has a 6 "notch" bar on the display and the notches disappear every 10 seconds or so as a countdown to the next code.

I will seriously consider purchasing one of these if the price is right. One of my friends recently got hacked for the second time, and is now stuck on a different server with just their Rare/Ex for the next three months. While I have decent confidence in my current security measures that kind of thing still scares me.