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Old 04-25-2008, 06:13 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Re: Version Update Notice (04/25/2008)
Kama are not Nunchaku though. Kama are pretty damn cool yeah, but this isn't D&D where you can use a Kusari-gama (Kama with a chain)and trip people up with the weighted chain.

Come to think of it, FFXI would be a lot more interesting if there were more kinds of interactions with weapons and armor like that but that'd just add a whole new level of complexity that I'm sad to say the game really doesn't need.

And I agree with you YM that the merits will likely just be SCH and DNC's category 1's, but it'd be nice to see them either add new categories or expand/amend some of the existing ones. Whether they happen or not it's still fun to speculate.

e.g., A way to Merit Sekkanoki or Seigan. Or maybe Shield Mastery etc etc.

There haven't been any Nunchaku since FF3, and they did say FFXI is based heavily on 1-3 so....




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Old 04-25-2008, 06:35 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Re: Version Update Notice (04/25/2008)
I don't know how I feel about merit categories getting expanded again, I didn't like how SE did it last time at any rate. COR, PUP and BLU were made to wait far too long for Group 2s. I'd like to see SCH and DNC rounded out on Group 2s before expanding the categories.

Plus I don't think things like Sekkanoki, Snarl, Velocity Shot or Accomplice were really meant to be meritted. I don't really see them as anything but filling the various gaps in the core EXP levels and they're kinda powerful enough as they are.

A revision for Group 1s and 2s for certain jobs might be worthwhile, particularly the spell costs of RDM group 2 magic, but I'd probably only go so far with the various jobs.

For expanding merit categories, I'd prefer all jobs have Group 2s before SE even bothered. Maybe the next expansion won't have new jobs, though only one of the four expansions hasn't had new jobs so far, so I doubt we'd ever see such a grace period again. Its gotta be tricky to balance out new jobs while updating old ones.




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Old 04-25-2008, 06:44 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Re: Version Update Notice (04/25/2008)
Originally Posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten View Post
, I didn't like how SE did it last time at any rate.
Umm... when was this? I don't recall them expanding the category 1 or 2 merits...



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Old 04-26-2008, 07:34 AM   #49 (permalink)
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Re: Version Update Notice (04/25/2008)
maybe relic af2 for pup, cor, and sch




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Old 04-26-2008, 09:24 AM   #50 (permalink)
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Re: Version Update Notice (04/25/2008)
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maybe relic af2 for pup, cor, and sch
You forgot Blu and Dnc, and my money is on no.
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Old 04-26-2008, 09:33 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Re: Version Update Notice (04/25/2008)
I sincerely hope they don't give mnks that kama weapon. Kama? Why kama? Why not make MNK wield pole type staves with the kind of proficiency that doesn't make them look like they're swinging a baseball bat? Why not make staves decent weapons period? Why not make throwing weapons wsable for nin? Why not let sam wield frigging one handed katanas?

If it's a new type of katana weapon that makes even less sense. Eh. I'm getting annoyed. Going to go dig into my ears with a spoon.



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Re: Version Update Notice (04/25/2008)
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Umm... when was this? I don't recall them expanding the category 1 or 2 merits...
Read again.

COR, BLU and PUP got Group 1s when everyone else got the Group 2s, then had to wait a full year for Group 2s. Hopefully SCH and DNC won't have to wait that long for Group 2s.




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Old 04-26-2008, 09:47 AM   #53 (permalink)
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Re: Version Update Notice (04/25/2008)
Would kama be a whole new class of weapons?
Or would It be listed under katana?



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Old 04-26-2008, 09:48 AM   #54 (permalink)
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Re: Version Update Notice (04/25/2008)
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Old 04-26-2008, 09:57 AM   #55 (permalink)
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Re: Version Update Notice (04/25/2008)
Originally Posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten View Post
Read again.

COR, BLU and PUP got Group 1s when everyone else got the Group 2s, then had to wait a full year for Group 2s. Hopefully SCH and DNC won't have to wait that long for Group 2s.
And you completely misunderstood me when I said expand the merits. I meant adding new merits to the existing categories.



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Re: Version Update Notice (04/25/2008)
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And you completely misunderstood me when I said expand the merits. I meant adding new merits to the existing categories.
Because Group 2s clearly weren't an expansion

I don't really see the point in doing so under your intended meaning. I'd prefer SE focus on where jobs are weakest for the time being, which is what they've been doing for the last several months now.

You can't deny life after 45/50 and before 75 hasn't had some tremendous gaps in job growth for some classes, SE seems to be targeting that area for a lot of jobs now, on top of refining some of the original traits and abilities.




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Old 04-26-2008, 11:07 AM   #57 (permalink)
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Re: Version Update Notice (04/25/2008)
For pup it would nice if we could get thease things

1. Better gear options for mid to high lvs
2. Maybe a bit higher h2h skill like from C to B-
3. A JA that lets us transfer Tp
4. fixing some attachments
5. more control over our puppet, we are puppetmasters and as of now smn has more control over gods then we do our puppet.\\
6. Af2 and other gear like that
7. A new 2 hour please, our 2 hour should become a 5 min JA




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Old 04-26-2008, 11:45 AM   #58 (permalink)
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Re: Version Update Notice (04/25/2008)
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Would kama be a whole new class of weapons?
Or would It be listed under katana?

Blablabla kama blablabla. Lol, I think most of us had rumours about new weapon classes more than enough times to know that it's probably just going to be katana. Or whatever it's going to be. As he holds the weapon backwards like a katana, I assume it will be just that.


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Old 04-26-2008, 12:16 PM   #59 (permalink)
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Re: Version Update Notice (04/25/2008)
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Because Group 2s clearly weren't an expansion
Man you're just full of yourself aren't ya? I or maybe you just didn't pick up that I had implied groups 1 & 2. Group 2 was another set of categories, but SE has yet to ever expand any existing groups which was my fucking point.

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Old 04-26-2008, 01:14 PM   #60 (permalink)
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Re: Version Update Notice (04/25/2008)
Too late with that post, Malacite.

It is, sadly, inevitable now.



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