03-10-2008, 05:35 PM | #121 (permalink) | | Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,544 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 144 Thanked 98x in 61 Posts Gil: 18,017 Bank: 12,027 Total Gil: 30,043 Donate | Re: Version Update Complete! (03/10/2008) 40% done, still says 4 hours  | Originally Posted by Ellipses | | Really, it's just like pretty much every question about this game that begins with "Why." The answer is "Because." | | Originally Posted by MCLV | | A subjob is like sex, you shouldn't have it untill your 18 but if you don't have it after 21 everyone laughs at you. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-10-2008, 05:40 PM | #122 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 23 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 7,700 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 7,700 Donate | Re: Version Update Complete! (03/10/2008) I started the second it was able just finished | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-10-2008, 06:21 PM | #123 (permalink) | | Fan of Murphie Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Largo, FL Posts: 1,510 Style: Light - Version 5 Thanks: 91 Thanked 266x in 157 Posts Gil: 2,999 Bank: 29,029 Total Gil: 32,028 Donate | Re: Version Update Complete! (03/10/2008) Originally Posted by Silent Howler | | I have a friend who is a 59 Warrior and does not have it yet. Maybe 60? | I entered the 60 cap tower of Pso'Xja, and I have Retaliation. So it sounds like it's level 60. Lyonheart
lvl 75 WAR, 75 BST, 75 BLM, 69 NIN, 37 THF, 37 SAM, 37 WHM, 30 MNK, 26 PLD, 22 DNC, 21 BLU, 18 COR, 15 RNG, 13 RDM, 12 DRK, 10 BRD
Cooking 100.0+3+3, Culinarian's Signboard, Raw Fish Handling, Noodle Kneading, Patissier
Fishing 60
Lakiskline
Bonecrafting 100.0+3+3,
Leather 60+2, Woodworking 60, Alchemy 60
Smithing 60, Clothcraft 55, Goldsmithing 54.1, Cooking 11
Boneworker's Signboard, Bone Purification, Bone Ensorcellment, Filing, Lumberjack, Chainwork | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-10-2008, 06:34 PM | #124 (permalink) | | Heir to Odin Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: None of your damn business Posts: 3,269 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 646 Thanked 295x in 200 Posts Gil: 69,550 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 69,550 Donate | Re: Version Update Complete! (03/10/2008) Yet more fail in this update. God it all looked so glorious at first, but it doesn't take long to find holes.
Seriously what the hell, I thought they wanted to make WAR a stronger tank, so WTF is this doing at such a high level? How about 38-40 to help out sooner?
It doesn't have to be subable, but there's no reason for an ability designed to help war tank to be so damned high. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-10-2008, 07:07 PM | #125 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 888 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 220 Thanked 67x in 59 Posts Gil: 1,140 Bank: 40,571 Total Gil: 41,711 Donate | Re: Version Update Complete! (03/10/2008) Maybe Retaliation is good for WAR/SAM DD between level 60 ~ 70, before Seigan + Third Eye.  Server: Quetzalcoatl
Race: Hume Rank 7
75 PLD, 75 SAM, 75 WAR, 72 NIN, 64 MNK, 48 BLU, 39 RDM, 37 DRK, 37 THF, 37 DNC, 33 WHM, 30 PUP, 27 BLM, 26 DRG, 14 RNG | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-10-2008, 08:33 PM | #126 (permalink) | | Has Job ADD Join Date: May 2006 Location: WA state USA Posts: 156 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 27 Thanked 8x in 8 Posts Gil: 7,757 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 7,757 Donate | Re: Version Update Complete! (03/10/2008) I'm still looking at 3+ hours on my download, so can anyone who uses SE's windowed mode fill me in on the changes to it? Can I put my gamma settings back to normal or is it still off? Gawd, I can't wait to not be blinded by the dunes (and half of the other zones) again, if so. ^^ | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-10-2008, 09:40 PM | #127 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,802 Style: Light - Version 4 Thanks: 80 Thanked 197x in 145 Posts Gil: 22,722 Bank: 46,531 Total Gil: 69,253 Donate | Re: Version Update Complete! (03/10/2008) So apparently
There's a male mithra NPC in the dats. "I have a forebrain, my ability to abstract thoughts allow for all kinds of things" - Red Mage 8-Bit theater | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-10-2008, 10:11 PM | #128 (permalink) | | FFXIWiki Team Join Date: May 2006 Location: Windurst Posts: 4,258 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 141 Thanked 1,119x in 624 Posts Gil: 11,082 Bank: 6 Total Gil: 11,087 Donate | Re: Version Update Complete! (03/10/2008) So nice of SE to not mention three pieces of each WotG AF set were made from crafted items. It wasn't a good idea the first time they did it, I'm amazed they'd do something so incredibly stupid a second time in a row with AFs.
Just.
Make.
Them.
Coffers.
Kthx! | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-10-2008, 11:53 PM | #129 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Auburn, ME Posts: 385 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 170 Thanked 114x in 67 Posts Gil: 16,595 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 16,595 Donate | Re: Version Update Complete! (03/10/2008) I'm liking a lot of this... except Sublimation's incompatibility with Refresh -- and not with Ballad or Evoker's. That's got me pissed. What were they thinking? If they're going to make it incompatible with Refresh, at least make it so Ballad and Evoker's don't work either so we have parity. Even though I'd rather still be able to Refresh people instead. Rrgh...  This had better be a bug. -- Pteryx | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-11-2008, 03:54 AM | #130 (permalink) | | Dictionary FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Warrior Posts: 1,458 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 117 Thanked 200x in 122 Posts Gil: 5,051 Bank: 21,486 Total Gil: 26,537 Donate | Re: Version Update Complete! (03/10/2008) Probably not. Juice and Refresh still don't stack.
I guess making it stack with Refresh would just empower RDM/SCH main healer instead of creating competition for that slot. Originally Posted by Taskmage | Women = Time x Money
Time = Money => Women = Money x Money
Women = Money^2
Money = √Evil => Women = (√Evil)^2
Women = Evil | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-11-2008, 04:45 AM | #131 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,802 Style: Light - Version 4 Thanks: 80 Thanked 197x in 145 Posts Gil: 22,722 Bank: 46,531 Total Gil: 69,253 Donate | Re: Version Update Complete! (03/10/2008) Originally Posted by Lmnop | Probably not. Juice and Refresh still don't stack.
I guess making it stack with Refresh would just empower RDM/SCH main healer instead of creating competition for that slot. | That's because Juice gives the effect of Refresh. They're not meant to stack. "I have a forebrain, my ability to abstract thoughts allow for all kinds of things" - Red Mage 8-Bit theater | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-11-2008, 04:46 AM | #132 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,682 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 48 Thanked 281x in 139 Posts Gil: 31,793 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 31,793 Donate | Re: Version Update Complete! (03/10/2008) Yeah... given the subbability of Sublimation, allowing RDM/SCH to stack it with refresh would be pretty sick. It'll probably be powerful enough as it is.
As for coffers... have you *been* in the new beastman strongholds? The entrance has mobs that are T to a level 75, and they get stronger as you go farther in. *And* there are some true sight mobs. Coffers would be highly challenging for a level 75; for a level 52 they'd be suicidal. (At least the scholars would have reraise. 1.)
Anyway, I think the ingredients this time around aren't crafted. Some are picked up from ???s and others appear to be raw drops. So it won't be a repeat of the situation with imperial silk. | Quote: | | There's a male mithra NPC in the dats. | Yes, and I've seen him...  Defeated: Maat, Divine Might, Fenrir, Kirin, Cactrot Rapido, Xolotl, Diabolos Prime, Kurrea, 9/10 Dynamis Bosses (missing Tav), Promathia, Proto-Ultima, Proto-Omega, 4 Jailers, Apocalypse Nigh
RDM75, PLD75, DRG75, DNC26, COR27, RNG27
Windurst Rank 10, ZMs & PMs Complete, AUMs Complete, First Lieutenant, Steelknight Emblem | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-11-2008, 07:01 AM | #133 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Somewhere in middle America Posts: 23 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 24 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,431 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,431 Donate | Re: Version Update Complete! (03/10/2008) I can't wait to get home and see if the update actually worked. I tried last night to download it but kept getting the POL 116 error. So I waited till this morning and it updated right away in under 5 minutes. I was expecting it to be a dreadfully long download. I guess we will see...5:00pm can't come fast enough.  "Life is tough, it's even tougher when you're stupid." ~ John Wayne | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-11-2008, 07:13 AM | #134 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 57 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 11 Thanked 3x in 3 Posts Gil: 5,375 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 5,375 Donate | Re: Version Update Complete! (03/10/2008) I started my DL yestarday when I got home at 3pm PST and the DL progress when I went to bed at 9pm was only 48% complete. what a BS situ...
I pay Microsoft for Live and SE for PlayOnline. I think MS should have a seaperate DL server for Xbox owners... Hell I pay enough for it ?! | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-11-2008, 07:26 AM | #135 (permalink) | | Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Al'Taieu Posts: 2,347 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 436 Thanked 395x in 267 Posts Gil: 10,977 Bank: 7,121 Total Gil: 18,098 Donate | Re: Version Update Complete! (03/10/2008) I'm glad I was home all day yesterday, I downloaded it as soon as the game allowed me to, and on my laptop, I was in game (unfortunately on my mule!) as soon as the server went back up. I had to wait about 15 more minutes for my PC. Aksannyi <3 Cerealkiller, THF who stole my heart. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:49 PM. | | |