[silentsteel]

thats interesting. . . funny if we could get the new jobs before the expantion came out.

[Darkhound]

Afer some thought, I think the jobs will be available in the new areas. This will encourage people to buy the expansion.....

[Vyren]

Yes but for Zilart I think, you didn't need the expansion to get summoner. But there are things to take into consideration;

Such as there are requirements to get to AU area's. Besides the level 30 restriction, I don't think they would add restrictions to some jobs and not others. Like they wouldn't make it so you couldn't get a job till you could get in an area for one job, and not another.

Then again, These new jobs "Are from the land of AU" and so may require you visiting there first.. ; ; It's hard to say. I just want the jobs early.

[Caspian]

Sam quest is in Norg, but you can't get to Norg w/o getting the keys to fly on the airship.

[Vyren]

Hm, good point. But you could get to Norg without the expansion.

[Caspian]

Really? I thought it was only with the RoZ expansion.

[Vyren]

No, you were able to get there without it. I didn't have it installed for quite a while and I still went there and got SAM. So I assume you don't need the expansion for Summoner, Samurai or Ninja. XD So I honestly hope the new jobs are like that. I can't afford the expansion right now, so it'd be useful.

[Darkhound]

So, you got to Norg wihout the expansion? that is odd

[Kafeen]

Are you sure it wasn't Chains of Promathia that you didn't have?

You need Rise of the Zilart to get to Khazam or even to get the quest to be able to use the airship to there. SMN didn't need Rise of the Zilart, it just came out at the same time, but that was the only new job that didn't need it.

[Jei]

NA version released with original+Zilart together in 1 pack you most likely had it installed. Without Zilart the game won't let you zone into any Zilart area : korroloka and kazam included.

[Ziero]

Kazham, yuhtunga and Norg are all RoZ zones where you need it installed and registered to get to. Sam, Drg and Nin were all expansion jobs and required at least a trip to a RoZ zone. Smn, from what I remember correctly, was initially planned to be released at the beginning with all the other Adv jobs like Pld and Brd but due to balance issues they had to hold it back. Thus the reason why Smn doesn't need the expansion to get.

I'm sure to get the new jobs you *will* need the expansion as that's their major selling point to 'low level players'.

And I don't think TaAU will be dissappointing, I was saying learning what items are in game via .dat scan can be a little dissappointing. Though once I think about it more, that's only for things like events and such where people are supposed to have fun working for their rewards. On big expansions and updates it's nice to know what new items are being added that your job could use so you have something specific to aim for.

[Vyren]

Hm, actually you may be right. I think I installed Zilart, and not CoP XD; Gr, It makes me angry though, I want to be able to get the jobs before buying ToAU, since I won't be able to get it till around..June-ish.

[Kafeen]

Infomation about update size:

File Size for Apr. 12 Update

An update for FINAL FANTASY XI is currently scheduled for Apr. 12, 2006. Approximate file sizes and installation times for this update are shown below.

* Several downloadable files may be skipped during or after the version update. However this will not affect the installation process after the download ends.

Downloadable file size: 21.4MB
>>Analog modem (56Kbps) users
Volume check: 8 minutes
Download / Unzip: 1 hours, 50 minutes
Installation: 1 minutes
Total: About 1 hours, 59 minutes

>>DSL (1Mbps) users
Volume check: 3 minutes, 30 seconds
Download / Unzip: 9 minutes
Installation: 1 minutes
Total: About 13 minutes, 30 seconds

*Please note that the above times are for reference only. Download times depend on individual users' network environment and may vary from those shown above. Also, this update will require more time if previous version updates were not completed.

[Khidir]

....i will dread coming back ill get up to 5hours at least when i first started ffxi in 2004 it was a 10hr update!

[ifandbut]

Originally Posted by Vyren

Hm, good point. But you could get to Norg without the expansion.

No, you cant. Kazham, Rabo, Norg were all added with Zilart, along with the quest to be able to get there. Yes, you could get SMN without the expansion, but you could not get all the avatars (Thunder, Wind, Earth, Fire, Water were in RoZ areas). SMN was the exception not the rule.