[ibroyles]

Originally Posted by Caspian

Also, if dancers were more concerned with themselves, then how do they benefit the party? They sound like a support job that doesnt support anyone but themselves.

Well if I remember most of the times in FFV Dancer would be more useful as sub ability than main job, because the main job had sub par weapon and armor choice. I too would be worried about the viability of it(as a main job) in this game, but it IS still a possibility. In FFT if I remember right, Dancers could be tweaked with gear to give them near 100% physical evasion... They were also more focused on debuffs toward enemies in that game. A pretty useful job in its own right in FFT.

[tazirai]

I loved Dancer in FFT and in FFV. But in FFT i had to keep her FAR from a fight or guard her seriously. She could usually be one shotted in fft.

[ibroyles]

A little off topic, but this is a strategy I use effectively in almost every FF game I've ever played(guess why I chose THF in FFXI ;p). Anyways, in FFT as Dancer slap on any Dancer's weapon(they all give Phys EV+50%) then slap on Feather Mantle(Phys EV+40%) and you've got yourself somebody who'se incredibly hard to hit. I did the same in FFVI with Locke(there's actually a glitch in the game, EVA doesn't matter, Magic EVA works for both Phys. and Magic attacks), because there was a combination of items to get near 100% EVA in that game as well. Who cares if they "can be" one shotted if they are never hit?

[Draco Dagon]

Originally Posted by ibroyles

Well if you remember FFV Berzerker would actually be analogous Warrior in FFXI. I think you are correct though Chemist, Geomancer and Mime are good possibilities. Other jobs which are in FFV that aren't in FFXI are Mystic Knight(some say RDM abilties already cover it), Time Mage(same as previous with WHM), and Dancer. Dancer's may seem similar to BRDs but they focused more on positive stat buffs for themselves instead of entire party iirc. I'm sure there's countless other jobs that could be pulled from FFT and FFTA though.

I would say aside from the MP, a DRK is real close to a Berserker.

Originally Posted by Caspian

I'm guessing a Mime copied other party member's moves? Kind of like the mimic materia? Theoretically it would be the perfectly balanced job, since it can only be as good as those around it. However, in an already great party of 5, it would quickly break it. Mimic refresh, mimic nukes, mimic SATA, mimic berserk, mimic Utsusemi. I would like to see how they would implement that.
Also, if dancers were more concerned with themselves, then how do they benefit the party? They sound like a support job that doesnt support anyone but themselves.

Have it so a mime could only mimic one person at a time perhaps? His two-hour would be how he mimics other people. In-between the two hours, a mimic would have to rely on the same abilities as the target. That way, such a problem wouldn't arrise.

Originally Posted by saige

wouldent that be impossible? considering the fact that if it copyed moves from other pt members it wouldent have the gear nessesary for doing the job. as in if it were to copy a war but wouldent have def gear it wouldent be very usefull

A mime wouldn't need the necessary equipment, for the most part anyhow. I don't think.

Originally Posted by Balfree

Door Salesman
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These masters of persuasion will fool an enemy into submission, depending on your CHR, you may be able to force an enemy to kill himself, or buy dishware and carpets, making it a nice job to earn extra gil, and leveling up 1 to 75 in a couple of hours.

2h, "Door Knocking", the Door Salesman will knock on the door and the enemy has no choice but to open it, since he doesnt know who's on the other side... anyways, he then proceeds to whack the enemy in the head with a hefty leather covered suitcase, brand new and shiny, the enemy then keeps the suitcase and the Door Salesman earns 10gil. That's so usefull.

I want to be a doors-salesman! LoL

Anyhow, I hear so much about Dynamis-this and Dynamis-that, someone care to tell me exactly what a dynamis is?

[UnnamedGalka]

*cough* The image means they're making Diablos and Bahamut available to summoners. *cough*

I doubt it...Bahamut especially.

[Caspian]

I know Fenrir appears in the later missions for windy, but were these missions available before Fenrir became summonable? I'm not sure of how it was back in the day, but it might earn some validity to one or both of them becoming summonable in the future. (Avatars already being in plotline before they become summonable.)

[Kafeen]

Originally Posted by Caspian

I know Fenrir appears in the later missions for windy, but were these missions available before Fenrir became summonable? I'm not sure of how it was back in the day, but it might earn some validity to one or both of them becoming summonable in the future. (Avatars already being in plotline before they become summonable.)

The Fenrir summon was added quite late, the missions were there long before the summon. He only appears in cut-scenes aswell but I suppose that's the same as Bahamut really.

One reason I don't think Bahamut can be made summonable though is that unlike Bahamut Fenrir always was an Avatar to be summoned. In the missions he's power summon who was forbidden to be used. Bahamut isn't considered to be an avatar, he's the king of the Wyrms.

[aegina]

ok then, if not bahamut, then at least give us SOME cool dragon.

not being able to summon a bahamut-ish avatar was what turned me off from smn in the first place. give me a dragonish avatar and i think i mat take smn up for awhile^^ at least to 30, for promy's

[Kafeen]

What do you think Dragoons do?

[Kittyneko]

Avatars look a bit more flashy... and usually bigger.. you know

[aegina]

the wyvern is cool, but small.

i mean a big honking, fire-breathing monstrosity that looks like he could eat godzilla. that's what i wanna summon.

all the other ff's had one. why doesn't this one? lol

[Jarre]

I know its great to have these updates, but the downloadble ones they could change the time for. Tomorrows maintenance update is from 5:30pm-23:30pmish, now when you consider I work all day and don't get home till 7pm, and go to bed at midnight, there ain't going to be no FF for me tomorrow its not the first time it has done this (3 updates in october) all at inconvienient times for us Europeans. not been funny, but it seems we always get the short straw when they look at update times, no longer you Japanees and americans are so far in the game, we receive the game months after you, we get delayed by updates at the usual prime time time that europeans can play due to school and work commitments during the day, maybe they should cycle the updates to different times so not just one "sector" get delayed all the time.

"rant over"

[aegina]

se seems to pay the most attention to the needs of jp's (which makes sense)

i agree. i wish they gave a little more thought to the foreign market that plays this game

[Belazor]

It's just one day... I doubt you are going to spontaneously combust because of it.

[eriatarka]

ONE TIME I RED ON ONEUP THAT SOME KID KILLED HIS BROTHER CAUSE THE MAINTAINCE WAS GOING ON TO LONG!!1112knlksjdsf

SE should vary the maintenance times a little bit though