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Thanked 335x in 235 Posts Gil: 112,811 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 112,811 Donate  | Re: "Hands-off" Alexander Originally Posted by Taskmage  | | Dark Arts reduces cast times by 10% whereas Fast Cast II decreases them by 15%, so blm/sch or sch/drk wouldn't be faster than blm/rdm. Rdm has 20-32% cast time reduction depending on items used. | You sure? Wiki shows FC1 as 5% and each additional trait @ 2.5
EDIT: Argh I was looking @ recast... |  | ::Quote Selected::  | | | 06-09-2008, 03:46 PM | #17 (permalink) | | Pink Mage Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bastok/Illinois Posts: 1,579 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 154
Thanked 182x in 120 Posts Gil: 15,997 Bank: 81,727 Total Gil: 97,724 Donate | Re: "Hands-off" Alexander Let's just calculate it:
Stun takes 0.5 seconds to cast.
BLM/RDM: 15% Fast Cast (from Fast Cast II)
RDM/DRK: 30% Fast Cast (from Fast Cast III + Chapeau)
BLM/RDM: 0.5 * 0.85 = 0.425 seconds
RDM/DRK: 0.5 * 0.70 = 0.35 seconds
So a RDM/DRK has a 0.075 second lead on on BLM/RDM. I wouldn't discount that considering that since Gospel of the Lost is very fast we're dealing with human visual reaction time which is (according to wikipedia) around 180-200 milliseconds or 0.180 to 0.200 seconds. Therefore the bonus RDM/DRK has of BLM/RDM is 37.5% of the human visual reaction time which is much more significant when you look at in as a percentage.
I know that it seems like a very small amount of time, but when we're hovering over a button to activate a readied spell, that's really what we're dealing with. A fraction of a second wins a race and it can be instrumental in fine actions like Stunning.
Also don't forget RDMs can also wear Duellist's Tabard that pushes Fast Cast to 40%.
0.5 * 0.6 = 0.3 seconds which is a full 0.125 seconds faster than BLM/RDM and is 62.5% of HVRT.  
Last edited by Sabaron : 06-09-2008 at 04:11 PM. Reason: Removed SCH/RDM (Duh, SCH/RDM doesn't get Stun) Thanks To Malacite | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 06-09-2008, 04:06 PM | #18 (permalink) | | Heir to Odin Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: None of your damn business Posts: 3,608 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 778
Thanked 335x in 235 Posts Gil: 112,811 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 112,811 Donate | Re: "Hands-off" Alexander | Originally Posted by Sabaron | | SCH/RDM: 25% Fast Cast (from Light Arts + Fast Cast II) | Don't you mean SCH/DRK? Last I checked SCH doesn't get Stun. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Malacite for above post: | | | | 06-09-2008, 04:10 PM | #19 (permalink) | | Pink Mage Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bastok/Illinois Posts: 1,579 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 154
Thanked 182x in 120 Posts Gil: 15,997 Bank: 81,727 Total Gil: 97,724 Donate | Re: "Hands-off" Alexander | Originally Posted by Malacite | | Don't you mean SCH/DRK? Last I checked SCH doesn't get Stun. |
Oh right...
No, the calculation was for SCH/RDM, and no, they wouldn't be able to use Stun.
SCH/DRK would only get 10% and would be worse than a BLM... SCH deleted from above. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 06-09-2008, 04:15 PM | #20 (permalink) | | factcheck.org Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,916 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1,707
Thanked 1,544x in 1,078 Posts Gil: 12,922 Bank: 589,440 Total Gil: 602,362 Donate | Re: "Hands-off" Alexander Sabaron, have you tried pinging the servers? That's probably just as significant if not moreso =/ Or how quickly your client is running... and if it's storming in passhow... |  | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 06-09-2008, 04:21 PM | #21 (permalink) | | Pink Mage Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bastok/Illinois Posts: 1,579 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 154
Thanked 182x in 120 Posts Gil: 15,997 Bank: 81,727 Total Gil: 97,724 Donate | Re: "Hands-off" Alexander | Originally Posted by Feba | | Sabaron, have you tried pinging the servers? That's probably just as significant if not moreso =/ Or how quickly your client is running... and if it's storming in passhow... | All the more reason why that extra fraction of a second matters. Pings are around 0.5 seconds which probably eats up most of the casting time of Gospel of the Lost. If you have a faster/slower connection that would be significantly impacting, but it's a factor you can't generally effect. You can effect your Fast Cast.
I suppose if you wanted to, you could do what Fry did on Futurama and drink 100 cups of coffee and transcend the limits of space-time before you fought him, but I don't think that would be good for your circulatory system or stomach...
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