 | View Poll Results: Whats fastest at claiming a monster? |  | | Shadowbind |   | 4 | 25.00% | | Charm |   | 4 | 25.00% | | Dia |   | 3 | 18.75% | | Other |   | 5 | 31.25% | | 03-25-2008, 10:05 AM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 7 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 2,272 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,272 Donate | Fastest claiming JA? EDIT: Yea...I made a mistake when typing Shadowbind in the poll and don't know how to fix it. -.-
I have been camping Argus for a few days now and 0/1 on Leech king but i haven't even seen Argus yet. I was wondering what is the fastest way to claim a mob using a job ability or magic? I'm a ranger and i think its "Shadowbind", when using shadowbind the mobs name turns red before my character even starts the animation..
But what do you guys think?  Last edited by Ill Poet : 03-25-2008 at 10:11 AM. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-25-2008, 10:10 AM | #2 (permalink) | | I am acctually you!! Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 684 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 34 Thanked 41x in 35 Posts Gil: 22,465 Bank: 1,559 Total Gil: 24,024 Donate | Re: Fastest claiming JA? flash/stun are pretty quick 
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retired -08 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-25-2008, 10:22 AM | #3 (permalink) | | Goodwill LS Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 117 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 10 Thanked 33x in 8 Posts Gil: 2,748 Bank: 21,050 Total Gil: 23,798 Donate | Re: Fastest claiming JA? animated flourish, steal, and provoke.  <Throne Room> and <Malboro> <Break>
afk 5 min | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-25-2008, 10:27 AM | #4 (permalink) | | Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the universe Posts: 1,011 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 269 Thanked 212x in 141 Posts Gil: 9,263 Bank: 34,935 Total Gil: 44,197 Donate | Re: Fastest claiming JA? Out of the options you gave, I'd vote for Dia. In a practical setting, I have flash and provoke. Flash is my claiming ability of choice because it's fast as hell, and has a longer range than provoke does.
Don't see why at least Provoke isn't in the poll... | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-25-2008, 10:28 AM | #5 (permalink) | | X's General FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 3,011 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 260 Thanked 755x in 410 Posts Gil: 51,093 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 51,093 Donate | Re: Fastest claiming JA? Pretty sure most JAs are instantaneous. There shouldn't be a difference in speed between Shadowbind, Charm, Provoke, Steal, etc. There are, of course, range differences and subs to take into the consideration.
Spells have a half-second casting time and will always be slower. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-25-2008, 10:32 AM | #6 (permalink) | | Spy Moose Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Behind the great Zion Curtain Posts: 115 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 35 Thanked 8x in 6 Posts Gil: 3,026 Bank: 769 Total Gil: 3,795 Donate | Re: Fastest claiming JA? I've always found provoke to be the fastest ability to upset a critter, Dia seems to be a close 2nd | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-25-2008, 10:38 AM | #7 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 7 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 2,272 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,272 Donate | Re: Fastest claiming JA? I don't think alot of you have even seen a RNG using shadowbind to claim a NM before >.>;; I know for a fact thats its faster then provoke.  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-25-2008, 10:42 AM | #8 (permalink) | | Goodwill LS Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 117 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 10 Thanked 33x in 8 Posts Gil: 2,748 Bank: 21,050 Total Gil: 23,798 Donate | Re: Fastest claiming JA? Originally Posted by Ill Poet | I don't think alot of you have even seen a RNG using shadowbind to claim a NM before >.>;; I know for a fact thats its faster then provoke. | How is you seeing it done b4 make it fact?
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afk 5 min | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-25-2008, 10:49 AM | #9 (permalink) | | Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the universe Posts: 1,011 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 269 Thanked 212x in 141 Posts Gil: 9,263 Bank: 34,935 Total Gil: 44,197 Donate | Re: Fastest claiming JA? Because he said it so it must be a fact. No need for any data to prove your point or anything. Just gotta say it and it becomes fact.
------ | Quote: | | I don't think alot of you have even seen a RNG using shadowbind to claim a NM before >.>;; I know for a fact thats its faster then provoke. | They are both instantaneous. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-25-2008, 10:50 AM | #10 (permalink) | | Pointy Stick Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,004 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 450 Thanked 360x in 222 Posts Gil: 16,207 Bank: 60,082 Total Gil: 76,289 Donate | Re: Fastest claiming JA? Angon and Steal are pretty damned fast. Charm and Provoke are typically more useful due to range though. Back when I used to camp Spook (in like '04) I used to always win with Charm vs a non-botter. That could have just been my connection though. There's no real way to test it. There are too many other variables that come in to play.
Wii code: 6851 9579 6989 9039 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-25-2008, 10:52 AM | #11 (permalink) | | Spy Moose Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Behind the great Zion Curtain Posts: 115 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 35 Thanked 8x in 6 Posts Gil: 3,026 Bank: 769 Total Gil: 3,795 Donate | Re: Fastest claiming JA? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-25-2008, 10:58 AM | #12 (permalink) | | Pointy Stick Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,004 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 450 Thanked 360x in 222 Posts Gil: 16,207 Bank: 60,082 Total Gil: 76,289 Donate | Re: Fastest claiming JA? That's common with a lot of abilities though. The claim always procs at the beginning of the animation.
Wii code: 6851 9579 6989 9039 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-25-2008, 11:06 AM | #13 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 7 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 2,272 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,272 Donate | Re: Fastest claiming JA? rofl I have used Provoke before many times and i have used Shadowbind many times...Hmmmmm. Maybe THAT'S how i know its faster. Yup, maybe thats it.  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-25-2008, 11:11 AM | #14 (permalink) | | From Beneath You, It Devours Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 3,440 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 43 Thanked 150x in 105 Posts Gil: 18,426 Bank: 57,441 Total Gil: 75,867 Donate | Re: Fastest claiming JA? Instant is instant. Both provoke and shadowbind have the same cast time (instant) and according to Spider-Dan's tests, have the same range.
However, if you take into account lag and the whole 'being locked out from trying to claim too early', then sometimes a very quick spell can work better than an instant JA.  I RNG 75 I WAR 37 I NIN 38 I SAM 50 I Woodworking 92+2
PSN: Caspian | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-25-2008, 11:20 AM | #15 (permalink) | | Shikaree N Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 693 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 36 Thanked 44x in 29 Posts Gil: 2,125 Bank: 34,590 Total Gil: 36,715 Donate | Re: Fastest claiming JA? Originally Posted by Ill Poet | rofl I have used Provoke before many times and i have used Shadowbind many times...Hmmmmm. Maybe THAT'S how i know its faster. Yup, maybe thats it. | I've used both Provoke and Shadowbind to claim tons of times on MNK/WAR and RNG. Neither one is faster than the other. You're mistaken. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:34 PM. | | |