03-09-2007, 08:43 AM | #16 (permalink) | | Senior Veteran Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,618 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 116 Thanked 1,434x in 870 Posts Gil: 2,390 Bank: 333,825 Total Gil: 336,215 Donate | Re: Sozu Rogberry pop item If loved is having a hundred people trying to kill you then I don't want to be loved. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-09-2007, 08:48 AM | #17 (permalink) | | Pointy Stick Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,033 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 465 Thanked 367x in 228 Posts Gil: 19,885 Bank: 80,862 Total Gil: 100,747 Donate | Re: Sozu Rogberry pop item down to 1.8 on Valefor but looking at the sales history it looks like someone was driving the price down
Wii code: 6851 9579 6989 9039 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-09-2007, 08:58 AM | #18 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 100 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 44 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 3,768 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,768 Donate | Re: Sozu Rogberry pop item Well the price keep on going down. It won't take long before it drops to a very low price. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-09-2007, 09:04 AM | #19 (permalink) | | Alone Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 3,145 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 251 Thanked 295x in 206 Posts Gil: 20,774 Bank: 21,106 Total Gil: 41,880 Donate | Re: Sozu Rogberry pop item 100k already on acouple servers lol | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-09-2007, 10:16 AM | #20 (permalink) | | Lightness Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,401 Style: Light - Version 4 My Mood: Thanks: 94 Thanked 131x in 79 Posts Gil: 12,629 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 12,629 Donate | Re: Sozu Rogberry pop item crazy... i feel kinda sorry for all those people that spent countless hours camping it with total frustration. all those 0/56 thf knife threads are going to sting right about now... Omni@Remora: NIN75 RNG75 MNK75 COR75 BST64 BRD53
♪♫ San d'Oria Complete ♪♫ ZM Complete ♪♫ CoP Complete ♪♫ AM Complete ♪♫ | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-09-2007, 10:22 AM | #21 (permalink) | | Loaded With Sodium Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,964 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 448 Thanked 1,591x in 1,001 Posts Gil: 4,806 Bank: 34,530 Total Gil: 39,336 Donate | Re: Sozu Rogberry pop item I think it's great. The Knife is just +1 to TH. It's not really that great a weapon, and doesn't really change the quality of the THF that holds it. However, a lot of people got into shells specifically because of having this knife, not because they were particularly good at their jobs. This update changes that, which I think is a good thing.
And if the people who are angry that it's not longer as precious want to cry, they should talk to the folks who had a Weskit before the prices dropped, and people who leveled to 75 before they dropped the exp requirements to get there, and SMN who got their summons before the level 20 cap fights were put in, etc, etc.
Nothing stays precious forever. If you define yourself by how rare a piece of your gear is, you're bound to be disappointed sooner or later. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-09-2007, 11:06 AM | #22 (permalink) | | Pointy Stick Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,033 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 465 Thanked 367x in 228 Posts Gil: 19,885 Bank: 80,862 Total Gil: 100,747 Donate | Re: Sozu Rogberry pop item Yeah... I've lost millions in gear over the last couple of years and I know I have it easy compared to most.
Wii code: 6851 9579 6989 9039 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-09-2007, 12:06 PM | #23 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Harrisburg, PA Posts: 30 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,203 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,203 Donate | Re: Sozu Rogberry pop item Sylph was at 1.4 million this morning.
The pop item drop is hella rare, if you can even claim a Pursuer. 6 hours of killing them, when I could get one. No drop yet.
Like a lot of people, I rushed there when I first got on, thinking it was perhaps a mistake. However, looking at the Thief job, and the main reason you are brought along is either hate control or TH; the fact that you can manipulate stats to increase hate control but had no way, outside of countless Dynamis trips or trying to get claim on something with a horrible drop rate or shelling out 7 - 14 million gil, to increase your TH; that the damage on the TK is relatively dismal and the TH bump is almost negiligible, S/E made the correct choice on changing this item to a new system of acquirement (other than adding a new item).
Now to get this, you will spend countless hours proving how crappy TH is trying to get a normal mob to drop a rare item which when used will have a good probability, relatively speaking, to get you something you should have for your job. The focus of getting the Thief's Knife is now effort instead of luck or shelling out millions in gil you should be spending on gear to increase your effectiveness in hate control, accuracy, damage, etcetera.
I spent a lot of time camping Sozu before update, making numerous claims against other players and RMT and never getting the drop. True, from a selfish viewpoint, when I farm I want a better chance for drops but there are also times, like trying to help others with their Ancient Papyrus or coffer keys, where the only satisfaction is helping someone. So, yes, for those who spent way more hours camping or farming to get this, I sympathyze. But I also know people who just happened upon Sozu and got the drop without working at it.
This change is truly something that was long past due for those who leveled a job which sometimes gets no respect nor party invites (i.e. - all the tanks leveling are currently Paladins). So get your TK, have fun with the minimal bump for farming and assisting others and have a good thought in your heart that S/E took a risk at pissing off a small minority to help the majority of Thieves.  Randwolf - Tarutaru
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World - Sylph | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-09-2007, 12:32 PM | #24 (permalink) | | Undeniably Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Like my Galka PLD Action Figure w/Hauteclaire grip? lolz Posts: 196 Style: Light - Version 5 Thanks: 21 Thanked 12x in 4 Posts Gil: 2,904 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,904 Donate | Re: Sozu Rogberry pop item I know that TH3 isn't but like 1% or something....
... but on Gods, it really seems to make a huge difference. It feels like your busting through a breaking point in the drop rates. It just makes things appear more often than usual. It could be a subjective feeling. -shrugs-
When I've went to camp for Moldavite Earring w/my LS, the LS leader has a THF Knife and we have never -not- gotten the earring to drop when he was in party. That's for so many ppl already. That also made me a firm believer in THF Knife.
But I may as well list the disclaimer: [*Individual results may vary.] | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-09-2007, 12:37 PM | #25 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,545 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 5 Thanked 85x in 23 Posts Gil: 45,440 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 45,440 Donate | Re: Sozu Rogberry pop item Okay so it's confirmed to drop off of Tonberry THF type in the temple and then den of rancor? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-09-2007, 12:39 PM | #26 (permalink) | | Achiever Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 2,626 Style: Light - Version 4 My Mood: Thanks: 442 Thanked 238x in 139 Posts Gil: 5,379 Bank: 95,000 Total Gil: 100,379 Donate | Re: Sozu Rogberry pop item I've only ever camped MysticMaker once, so I'll refrain from commenting on that. *smirk*
But this definitely made raising THF more possible. I was originally gonna take it to at least 60, but now that I'm thinking of unlocking Evisceration and such, this might be perfect incentive to take it to a higher level.
Of course, I don't know why though, I've never been a fan of farming  Originally Posted by Aksannyi | | I swear some melee would forget their fucking weapon if they didn't have it equipped every time they logged in. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-09-2007, 01:09 PM | #27 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 96 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 11 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 1,944 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,944 Donate | Re: Sozu Rogberry pop item yup i got one last night not sure on moon or stuff like that i dont bother to worry about that stuff. Go in from paint room and as soon as you walk in open area of den of rancor is a spawn point for 3 thf type tonberry's there. Or there are some other spots that are less camped probably but i claimed with Dia ftw  75bst 75thf 73rdm 40mnk 39nin 37whm 35blu 26drk 17pld 17war and idk the rest
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TheFlock ls | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-09-2007, 01:15 PM | #28 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,545 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 5 Thanked 85x in 23 Posts Gil: 45,440 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 45,440 Donate | Re: Sozu Rogberry pop item Seems like that spot is camped . .. . like literally >.>
Will try for another spot *goes on adventuering* | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-10-2007, 05:26 AM | #29 (permalink) | | Undeniably Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Like my Galka PLD Action Figure w/Hauteclaire grip? lolz Posts: 196 Style: Light - Version 5 Thanks: 21 Thanked 12x in 4 Posts Gil: 2,904 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,904 Donate | Re: Sozu Rogberry pop item Friends took me last night for a little bit to help them claim lol. They wanted me to use Chainspell, so I did. However, we didn't get any drops and claimed very little. It's like a madhouse in the Temple.
When I logged off last night, price was down to 2mil. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-10-2007, 06:02 AM | #30 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 308 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 6,168 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 6,168 Donate | Re: Sozu Rogberry pop item Proof of drop i rancor 
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