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Old 03-09-2007, 08:43 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Sozu Rogberry pop item
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Old 03-09-2007, 08:48 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Sozu Rogberry pop item
down to 1.8 on Valefor but looking at the sales history it looks like someone was driving the price down





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Old 03-09-2007, 08:58 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Well the price keep on going down. It won't take long before it drops to a very low price.
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Old 03-09-2007, 09:04 AM   #19 (permalink)
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100k already on acouple servers lol
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Old 03-09-2007, 10:16 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Re: Sozu Rogberry pop item
crazy... i feel kinda sorry for all those people that spent countless hours camping it with total frustration. all those 0/56 thf knife threads are going to sting right about now...



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Old 03-09-2007, 10:22 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Re: Sozu Rogberry pop item
I think it's great. The Knife is just +1 to TH. It's not really that great a weapon, and doesn't really change the quality of the THF that holds it. However, a lot of people got into shells specifically because of having this knife, not because they were particularly good at their jobs. This update changes that, which I think is a good thing.

And if the people who are angry that it's not longer as precious want to cry, they should talk to the folks who had a Weskit before the prices dropped, and people who leveled to 75 before they dropped the exp requirements to get there, and SMN who got their summons before the level 20 cap fights were put in, etc, etc.

Nothing stays precious forever. If you define yourself by how rare a piece of your gear is, you're bound to be disappointed sooner or later.
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Old 03-09-2007, 11:06 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Yeah... I've lost millions in gear over the last couple of years and I know I have it easy compared to most.





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Re: Sozu Rogberry pop item
Sylph was at 1.4 million this morning.

The pop item drop is hella rare, if you can even claim a Pursuer. 6 hours of killing them, when I could get one. No drop yet.

Like a lot of people, I rushed there when I first got on, thinking it was perhaps a mistake. However, looking at the Thief job, and the main reason you are brought along is either hate control or TH; the fact that you can manipulate stats to increase hate control but had no way, outside of countless Dynamis trips or trying to get claim on something with a horrible drop rate or shelling out 7 - 14 million gil, to increase your TH; that the damage on the TK is relatively dismal and the TH bump is almost negiligible, S/E made the correct choice on changing this item to a new system of acquirement (other than adding a new item).

Now to get this, you will spend countless hours proving how crappy TH is trying to get a normal mob to drop a rare item which when used will have a good probability, relatively speaking, to get you something you should have for your job. The focus of getting the Thief's Knife is now effort instead of luck or shelling out millions in gil you should be spending on gear to increase your effectiveness in hate control, accuracy, damage, etcetera.

I spent a lot of time camping Sozu before update, making numerous claims against other players and RMT and never getting the drop. True, from a selfish viewpoint, when I farm I want a better chance for drops but there are also times, like trying to help others with their Ancient Papyrus or coffer keys, where the only satisfaction is helping someone. So, yes, for those who spent way more hours camping or farming to get this, I sympathyze. But I also know people who just happened upon Sozu and got the drop without working at it.

This change is truly something that was long past due for those who leveled a job which sometimes gets no respect nor party invites (i.e. - all the tanks leveling are currently Paladins). So get your TK, have fun with the minimal bump for farming and assisting others and have a good thought in your heart that S/E took a risk at pissing off a small minority to help the majority of Thieves.



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Old 03-09-2007, 12:32 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Re: Sozu Rogberry pop item
I know that TH3 isn't but like 1% or something....

... but on Gods, it really seems to make a huge difference. It feels like your busting through a breaking point in the drop rates. It just makes things appear more often than usual. It could be a subjective feeling. -shrugs-

When I've went to camp for Moldavite Earring w/my LS, the LS leader has a THF Knife and we have never -not- gotten the earring to drop when he was in party. That's for so many ppl already. That also made me a firm believer in THF Knife.

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Old 03-09-2007, 12:37 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Okay so it's confirmed to drop off of Tonberry THF type in the temple and then den of rancor?



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Re: Sozu Rogberry pop item
I've only ever camped MysticMaker once, so I'll refrain from commenting on that. *smirk*

But this definitely made raising THF more possible. I was originally gonna take it to at least 60, but now that I'm thinking of unlocking Evisceration and such, this might be perfect incentive to take it to a higher level.

Of course, I don't know why though, I've never been a fan of farming



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Re: Sozu Rogberry pop item
yup i got one last night not sure on moon or stuff like that i dont bother to worry about that stuff. Go in from paint room and as soon as you walk in open area of den of rancor is a spawn point for 3 thf type tonberry's there. Or there are some other spots that are less camped probably but i claimed with Dia ftw



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Seems like that spot is camped . .. . like literally >.>

Will try for another spot *goes on adventuering*



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Friends took me last night for a little bit to help them claim lol. They wanted me to use Chainspell, so I did. However, we didn't get any drops and claimed very little. It's like a madhouse in the Temple.

When I logged off last night, price was down to 2mil.
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Old 03-10-2007, 06:02 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Proof of drop i rancor

I also got one for a friend the day after
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