01-08-2007, 09:55 AM | #16 (permalink) | | King of the Oompa Loompas Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,396 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 10 Thanked 123x in 99 Posts Gil: 30,591 Bank: 66,161 Total Gil: 96,752 Donate | Re: Aggro to resting/sitting Originally Posted by Haggai | That's the thing... I agree. I want a situation where someone has said that they were fully sneak/invis'd in front of a tiger in Wajaom when they bent down to rest. Or a situation where a DC, non-aggro bat started to attack when he rested.
I want situations where the only reason the mob attacked is that the player rested. If I can get that, I will attempt to duplicate it based on the statement of the player. If I can duplicate it, I will start removing other methods of aggro, until I disprove that the mob only aggro'd to resting.
If I can walk up to a non-true-sight mob with full sneak/invis/deodorize with full HP and rest, if that mob attacks me, I will bow down and claim that resting aggro exists. I don't believe that this will happen.
I agree with all of you nay-sayers. I just want someone to challenge it. | Good luck in your "search". More than not, whenever someone claims to get aggro while resting and has invis/sneak on, it's a true sight mob. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-08-2007, 10:02 AM | #17 (permalink) | | Digital Wizard Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 6,045 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 69 Thanked 475x in 313 Posts Gil: 5,500 Bank: 132,144 Total Gil: 137,645 Donate | Re: Aggro to resting/sitting Originally Posted by Kurb | | went to 3rd person view to watch for NM's none bang aggro running back to zone i got a train of orcs >< death -1.?00kexp deleveled to 59 | All monsters in Davoi aside from Davoi Wasp and War Lizard are aggro. You may have rested near one of the sound-aggro enemies like Geezard or Wolf Bat, which would have dropped your Invisible spell and caused the train.
Icemage | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-08-2007, 10:04 AM | #18 (permalink) | | anti-spam Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,535 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 22 Thanked 64x in 59 Posts Gil: 49,904 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 49,904 Donate | Re: Aggro to resting/sitting what about the classic bogy on the ice pond in qufim? i firmly believe it only aggros if you are 1) too close 2) not sneaked or 3) yellow HP. However, many believe it'll aggro you if you are resting. I've never really bothered to confirm one way or the other though... | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-08-2007, 10:23 AM | #19 (permalink) | | Senior Veteran Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,618 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 116 Thanked 1,434x in 870 Posts Gil: 2,472 Bank: 333,825 Total Gil: 336,297 Donate | Re: Aggro to resting/sitting Originally Posted by neighbortaru | | what about the classic bogy on the ice pond in qufim? i firmly believe it only aggros if you are 1) too close 2) not sneaked or 3) yellow HP. However, many believe it'll aggro you if you are resting. I've never really bothered to confirm one way or the other though... | It won't simply aggro resting. I've rested on the ice on the little pond lots of times. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-08-2007, 10:26 AM | #20 (permalink) | | Digital Wizard Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 6,045 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 69 Thanked 475x in 313 Posts Gil: 5,500 Bank: 132,144 Total Gil: 137,645 Donate | Re: Aggro to resting/sitting The detection path for that Banshee in the ice pond of Qufim is really weird, possibly because for a monster to aggro, it must find a path to get to you, which that broken ice seriously restricts. You almost have to be on top of it for it to notice you sometimes.
Icemage | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-09-2007, 05:36 AM | #21 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,745 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 53 Thanked 295x in 150 Posts Gil: 39,808 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 39,808 Donate | Re: Aggro to resting/sitting Another fun aggro fact that some people may not know: magic and blood aggro, although pretty long ranged and 360 degree, don't work around corners. There must be uninterrupted line of sight between you and the magic/blood aggroing mob. In some cases even a pillar or other obstacle between you and the mob will prevent aggro (although this is somewhat risky, if the monster moves). Even true sight mobs can't see around corners.  Defeated: Maat, Divine Might, Fenrir, Kirin, Cactrot Rapido, Xolotl, Diabolos Prime, Kurrea, 9/10 Dynamis Bosses (missing Tav), Promathia, Proto-Ultima, Proto-Omega, 4 Jailers, Apocalypse Nigh
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Windurst Rank 10, Bastok Rank 5, ZMs & PMs Complete, AUMs Complete, First Lieutenant, Holyknight Emblem | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Karinya for above post: | | | 01-09-2007, 05:49 AM | #22 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 254 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 25 Thanked 8x in 6 Posts Gil: 7,590 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 7,590 Donate | Re: Aggro to resting/sitting yup i learned it the hard way never go it alone | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-09-2007, 09:19 AM | #23 (permalink) | | Likes to n00k Join Date: May 2006 Location: Maine, USA Posts: 560 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 8 Thanked 22x in 17 Posts Gil: 4,012 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,012 Donate | Re: Aggro to resting/sitting Originally Posted by Karinya | | Another fun aggro fact that some people may not know: magic and blood aggro, although pretty long ranged and 360 degree, don't work around corners. There must be uninterrupted line of sight between you and the magic/blood aggroing mob. In some cases even a pillar or other obstacle between you and the mob will prevent aggro (although this is somewhat risky, if the monster moves). Even true sight mobs can't see around corners. | Yeah, that reminds me of when I used to solo Qiqirn Archaeologits in Aydeewa Subterrane. If there were little itty bitty plants in between us, I couldn't cast on him until one of us moved an inch. I could see him prefectly, but I'd still get something about not being able to see him. They'd do that all the time. Haggai
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