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Old 05-14-2008, 04:57 AM   #1
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Monk Damage Per Minute Calculator!! VERY useful

Well, I kept getting childish replies and stupid comments upon posting my program so i just removed the program since i think ffxionline isnt really worth having it.

Here is a screen shot of the program:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/ffdbkof/MDC5.jpg

if you still want the program, you can PM me and i'll give you the link

-Description:
So, what does Monk Damage Calculator do?
Well, it basically make you input your stats for both TP gain gear and WS gear, it tells you your min and max damage, min and max critical damage for both punches and kicks. and also tells you your min and max WS damage (Assuming all hits hit)
But what really is this program useful for is that you can figure out which gear to wear for TP gain and WS to output the MAXIMUM DAMAGE PER MINUTE!, I've made the DPM get estimated based on many many variables. And those are as follows:

- for TP gain this will affect your DPM:
STR, DEX, ATK, H2H, ACC, StoreTP, Crits%, DA%, Haste, Kick+, Focus, Temple crown)

- for WS this will affect your DPM:
STR, VIT, DEX, ATK, H2H, ACC+, DA%

- other stuff that will affect your DPM:
WS gorget, Sneak Attack, Berserk, Your Level

- Monster stats that will affect your DPM:
Level, VIT, AGI, Defense, Evasion

- Other important things that will affect your DPM:
Weapon Used, WS used, Food used, Feet used, TP used @?, DMG adjusting

Manual "Weapon, WS and Food" stats can be entered as you can see in the screen shot incase you didnt find your item listed or if you want to play around a little
Since PUP also uses H2H, I added a PUP option for PUPs

History file will be included about fixed and stuff to be added
*All the formulas used are from FFXIclopedia

Feedbacks and ideas would be great!

Here are older screen shots if you want see older versions
1- members.lycos.co.uk/ffdbkof/MDC.jpg
2- members.lycos.co.uk/ffdbkof/MDC2.jpg
3- members.lycos.co.uk/ffdbkof/MDC3.jpg
4- members.lycos.co.uk/ffdbkof/MDC4.jpg
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Re: Monk Damage Per Minute Calculator!! VERY useful

1. Be very, very careful of unknown 3rd party applications.

2. Why would I want to measure my damage per minute when everyone else is measuring their damage per second? (Yes, I realize I could divide by 60, but it seems odd that you wouldn't do that step for me).

3. I won't touch your program unless you post the source code.
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Hey sabaron.
Well, its normal for people to freak out upon downloading or getting new applications.

1-this program does not read or take any info from the PC whatsoever. so it isnt really considered as a 3rd party program. beside you can always check with anti-virsus, spyware, or whatever you have. or use it with PC that does not have FFXI installed in it, and check

2-Umm, I believe DPM would be better since, weapon skills are used often in about 1 minute, if not more or less. Beside I think DPM would be more accurate and reliable. Well, if you want, i can always add DPS, just divide the DPM by 60, and thats it

3- I used visual basic to write this program, I'm not showing my code until i quit FFXI , sorry i just worked hard and dont want to give it away yet. Don't touch it you if you dont want it, quite frankly i dont really care if you do or not. I'm just a Fellow Monk who created this program to help determining best equip and food and wanted to share it with my other fellow monks

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sorry i just worked hard and dont want to give it away yet.
Quite frankly, you might as well post the source code. It's not like your program is going to sell more than a few copies if you try to; and it's not like it's not possible for someone else to come along and make something even more effective.

Not to mention it's nearly impossible to tell how accurate it is without being able to see the code, and see how the calculations are done.

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1-this program does not read or take any info from the PC whatsoever. so it isnt really considered as a 3rd party program. beside you can always check with anti-virsus, spyware, or whatever you have. or use it with PC that does not have FFXI installed in it, and check
It is still a third party program, because it isn't made by SE. You are not a reliable party, and thus any downloads from you are to be avoided. It is possible that whatever your program does does not require FFXI to be installed, and would not be detected by antimalware programs.

Really, making your program open source has many benefits, while keeping it closed has none (in this case, that is)
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well, its up to you guys, you want to benifit you can use it. you dont want you, ur loss

just what you do for the people and how they react to it...
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Given that we have no reason to trust you (6 posts?) and you have no reason not to show people the source code, the risk here far outweighs the reward.
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how do you calculate dpm when you can have full ACC gear and still miss a lot?
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how do you calculate dpm when you can have full ACC gear and still miss a lot?
Unfortunately, we can't answer that question because he won't post the source. ^^

DPS is mob-relative, so anything he can calculate would have to be based on some sort of archetypal monster unless he has a database of all mobs and their various stats. Since I don't know that such a thing exists, I don't know as that any calculations made would be accurate.

I also refuse to run the program since I can't see the source code, so I can't even see what parameters you can set.
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Re: Monk Damage Per Minute Calculator!! VERY useful

appearnly you guys did not even bother look at the screen shot of the program, everything is obviouse once you open it. You will notice a place where to input Mob stats, and you can easily obtain them either from sites, or estimate them yourself. And Sabaron you dont have to answer for me ^^, I can answer alone. Hence i'm the one who wrote the code... ^^
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Not to mention it's nearly impossible to tell how accurate it is without being able to see the code, and see how the calculations are done.
Actually, you can compare it with your results ingame, EASILY. lol... /sigh, well~
All the forumlas are from ffxiclopedia.com, and until now, its been over 98% accurate for me and all my friends who used the program

Also, I was not intending to sell this program anyways, maybe only donations , but thats it. And if anyone wants to make a more effective program, he's more than welcome. lol... I dont really mind

Well, I might have only 6 posts in this forum, just coz its kinda nooby, not really that interesting posts, i go to either killingifrit or allakhazam, where more serious discussions are made. I already posted this program there, and they used it and got benifeted from it. and i got goodfeedbacks and ideas to update. Also, if you go back to my first posts, u'll see them from LONG time ago, so i've been playing this game for a long time now and not just a new guy who created this acc to post this program only... /sigh
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Re: Monk Damage Per Minute Calculator!! VERY useful

._. Looks like you manually input all the variables? In that case, it's not a "third party program" to FFXI. No more than Yahoo messenger, anyway, even if you talk to people about FFXI while on it.

Brow beating the author of a program into releasing source code is a bit silly, by the way. His program, his rules--you don't have to download or run it if you don't like it.
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He doesn't. But when he asks why you won't download it, and you say "because I don't know you, and I can't see the source code," that's a pretty valid answer.
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Well, I might have only 6 posts in this forum, just coz its kinda nooby, not really that interesting posts, i go to either killingifrit or allakhazam, where more serious discussions are made.
You win the funniest post of the day award.
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I totally missed that. Real hilarity there.

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Re: Monk Damage Per Minute Calculator!! VERY useful

This is all facinating, however, where's the data for MNK AFKness per hour?
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Re: Monk Damage Per Minute Calculator!! VERY useful

Well, most threads here discuss MNK on low levels, and some like lol when to stop sub drg..and this kind of stuff, while the others discuss level 75 equip, End game and the such.

And will, at least i won something i want my funniest thread award. lol

Well, this program is to calculate ur damage per minute while fighting, MNK AFKness isnt really included. But you can include that by clicking the NooB button...

And like IfritofItanura said, you can download the program and benifit, or you can go sob at a corner..

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