02-21-2008, 11:39 PM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 30 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 5,430 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 5,430 Donate | Combo vs. One Inch Punch I'm not sure if this is a stupid question or not, but I've noticed that even against high def mobs like crabs I do a decent amount of damage (15~ per punch to IT clippers in Qufim compared to 25~ per punch to worms). Now, I have no idea what the defense of crabs are, and I couldn't find anything on ffxiclopedia, but I'm wondering if it's better to keep using combo against high defense mobs or to switch to one inch punch?
Keep in mind that up until right now, I've never used a meat mithkabob, but in the future I will never be in a party (that is functioning properly..) without using them. It'd increase my str by 5, and attack by about 25.
In case this is important, my gear and stats:
Republic Knuckles (Dmg: 6, Acc: 2, Att: 3)
Merc. Hachi (Str: 1)
Spike Neck (Str: 3, Dex: 3)
Beetle Earringx2 (Att: 3)
Power Gi (Str: 1)
Battle Gloves (Acc: 3)
Courage Ringx2 (Str: 2)
Purple Belt (Str: 3, Haste: 4%)
The other pieces add no offensive stats, but at 25 my legs and feet will have attack. I have no idea what back to get.
I have 26+12 Str, 32+3 Dex, and 105 attack.
Edit: Also, is it odd that no group I've been in since some random level 11 group in the dunes on my warrior has attempted to skillchains/magic bursts? I'd really like to start doing these..  25MNK/18WAR | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-21-2008, 11:43 PM | #2 (permalink) | | Digital Wizard Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 5,987 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 69 Thanked 456x in 299 Posts Gil: 2,601 Bank: 76,083 Total Gil: 78,684 Donate | Re: Combo vs. One Inch Punch One Inch Punch is a horrible weaponskill.
It does technically ignore the target's defense, but the base damage is so low that you might as well use Combo for more damage even when the target has used a defense-booster like Coccoon or Scissor Guard.
Icemage | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-22-2008, 05:57 AM | #3 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 917 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 231 Thanked 68x in 60 Posts Gil: 1,951 Bank: 56,920 Total Gil: 58,871 Donate | Re: Combo vs. One Inch Punch In general for exp. parties, most MNK stick to Combo, later alternate between Combo and Backhand Blow, then at level 40 replace Combo with Raging Fist, and then Howling Fist after level 60, Dragon Kick (lvl 65) for Skillchain, finally spam Asuran Fist at level 70+.  Server: Quetzalcoatl
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75 PLD, 75 SAM, 75 WAR, 75 NIN, 64 MNK, 48 BLU, 39 RDM, 37 DRK, 37 THF, 37 DNC, 33 WHM, 30 PUP, 27 BLM, 26 DRG, 14 RNG | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-22-2008, 06:45 AM | #4 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 361 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 11 Thanked 47x in 31 Posts Gil: 4,100 Bank: 26,003 Total Gil: 30,103 Donate | Re: Combo vs. One Inch Punch It sounds like the ONLY thing One Inch Punch has going for it is the ability to form a Gravitation skillchain ... it's scarcely worth the trouble if you don't have a BLM magic bursting it, which is pretty rare these days. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-22-2008, 08:24 AM | #5 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 134 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 55 Thanked 6x in 5 Posts Gil: 7,922 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 7,922 Donate | Re: Combo vs. One Inch Punch It's a shame it's not very good, 'cause it looks awesome. @_@
I've never understood why there are "bad" weaponskills in this game, lol. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-22-2008, 09:23 AM | #6 (permalink) | | Sticky Paws Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,892 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 237 Thanked 609x in 395 Posts Gil: 6,657 Bank: 119,181 Total Gil: 125,838 Donate | Re: Combo vs. One Inch Punch Originally Posted by Nataka | | It's a shame it's not very good, 'cause it looks awesome. | It looks horrible. FFXI's "One Inch Punch" doesn't look a thing like its namesake.  “ I’m in pain, but I’m happy.”
“ It hurts, but I can smile.”
“ That’s why I can tell you from the depths of my being…” | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-22-2008, 11:21 AM | #7 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 30 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 5,430 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 5,430 Donate | Re: Combo vs. One Inch Punch Hah alright well thanks guys. I'll be sticking to combo then I suppose   25MNK/18WAR | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-25-2008, 10:28 AM | #8 (permalink) | | Teh Mato Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Oregon! Posts: 153 Style: Light - Version 4 My Mood: Thanks: 41 Thanked 18x in 15 Posts Gil: 5,720 Bank: 6,031 Total Gil: 11,751 Donate | Re: Combo vs. One Inch Punch Originally Posted by IfritnoItazura | | It looks horrible. FFXI's "One Inch Punch" doesn't look a thing like its namesake. | Ah good. A well thought out argument supported with fact and reasonability.
Or... this could be completely subjective and based on personal taste.
Just sayin'.
I, for one, like the way it looks. Reminds me of a noobish Final Heaven. :: Why can't this crazy love be mine? ::
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Or... this could be completely subjective and based on personal taste. | Haha. It's completely subjective, of course. ("Dogs make betters pets." "No, cats do!" "Wrong! Turtles!")
"One inch punch" doesn't involve a punch, at least not in the conventional sense; if you're making a typical punching motion, you're doing it wrong.
Not sure if it has any practical use except as a training exercise, but the "One inch punch" is about generating a powerful "punch" (can be a palm strike as well) without telegraphing or much apparent forward motion. As far as I can tell, the majority of the momentum is from an explosive (but abbreviated) body twist, and the fist doesn't travel more than 2-4(?) inches.
Oh, and it's blazing fast--nothing in common with the slow motion punch we see in FFXI.  “ I’m in pain, but I’m happy.”
“ It hurts, but I can smile.”
“ That’s why I can tell you from the depths of my being…” | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-26-2008, 05:25 AM | #10 (permalink) | | I.T. Analyst Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 141 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3x in 3 Posts Gil: 3,147 Bank: 9,066 Total Gil: 12,213 Donate | Re: Combo vs. One Inch Punch Combo will generally hit harder than One Inch Punch in my travels, but use your Backhand Blow as that can deal out some nasty damage when timed right.
btw, keep those knuckles till 32 (you don't need anything else) then get Impact Knuckles @ 32. They're cheap and have good stats (dmg +8 str +1 acc +3 i believe) and only cost me 3k on Jeuno AH  [Bahamut] Rank 5
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***************************************** | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-26-2008, 06:45 AM | #11 (permalink) | | X's General FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 2,801 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 204 Thanked 694x in 369 Posts Gil: 43,012 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 43,012 Donate | Re: Combo vs. One Inch Punch | Quote: | Haha. It's completely subjective, of course. ("Dogs make betters pets." "No, cats do!" "Wrong! Turtles!")
"One inch punch" doesn't involve a punch, at least not in the conventional sense; if you're making a typical punching motion, you're doing it wrong.
Not sure if it has any practical use except as a training exercise, but the "One inch punch" is about generating a powerful "punch" (can be a palm strike as well) without telegraphing or much apparent forward motion. As far as I can tell, the majority of the momentum is from an explosive (but abbreviated) body twist, and the fist doesn't travel more than 2-4(?) inches.
Oh, and it's blazing fast--nothing in common with the slow motion punch we see in FFXI. | Yeah. The least they could've done is give it the knockback animation they give stuff like Head Butt and Helldive. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Armando for above post: | | | 02-26-2008, 08:18 AM | #12 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 917 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 231 Thanked 68x in 60 Posts Gil: 1,951 Bank: 56,920 Total Gil: 58,871 Donate | Re: Combo vs. One Inch Punch Cannot view that video from my Internet at this moment... Are you talking about the One Inch *push* ^^? (joke)  Server: Quetzalcoatl
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***************************************** | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-26-2008, 12:08 PM | #14 (permalink) | | Teh Mato Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Oregon! Posts: 153 Style: Light - Version 4 My Mood: Thanks: 41 Thanked 18x in 15 Posts Gil: 5,720 Bank: 6,031 Total Gil: 11,751 Donate | Re: Combo vs. One Inch Punch Originally Posted by Armando | | The least they could've done is give it the knockback animation they give stuff like Head Butt and Helldive. | Are there any player-side WS that have animations like that?  :: Why can't this crazy love be mine? ::
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