01-07-2008, 02:53 PM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 988 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 988 Donate | Some Monk Questions. Hello,
I just started the game last night and decided to go with a Hume Monk. I am currently level 8, and have a few questions.
1.) I have been looking at the "monk faq" sticky at the top of this page, and I was looking at the equipment section more in depth. Since I am approaching level 10...I was looking to get the "ryl ftm cesti". Everywhere I looked, I haven't been able to find them. The only thing that looks relatively similar is the the "ryl archer cesti". Are they the same things?
2.) I have been getting exp very slowly lately. Since I am from bastok, so I have mostly been training on vomp hill? Is there a better place to train? When would you suggest going to valkurm?
3.) Anyone have a garuda linkshell?
Thank you,
-Adam | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-08-2008, 04:58 AM | #2 (permalink) | | Ares's Cuirass Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,990 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 8 Thanked 31x in 25 Posts Gil: 2,117 Bank: 3,166 Total Gil: 5,283 Donate | Re: Some Monk Questions. You can get them from trading conquest points at a gate gaurd. Think you need rank 2 to be able to purchase them. You could just wait until lv11 and get the Brass Baghnakhs or use the lv9 Brass Knuckles. I would personally stick to the brass knuckles until lv15.
Can either solo to 12 in konschat on worms or in gustaberg killing everything for a couple of hours. You can get a PT at 10 in valkurm but its not really faster half the time. 75 Mnk Sam | 70 Drk | 40 Blm | 37 Nin Rng Thf War
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ZM:Complete CoP:Complete ToAU:27 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-08-2008, 06:10 AM | #3 (permalink) | | Dhalmel Slayer Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 31 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 13 Thanked 3x in 2 Posts Gil: 588 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 588 Donate | Re: Some Monk Questions. 'Ryl Ftm' stands for 'Royal Footman'
In order to buy them with conquest points as the poster above mentioned you'd have to be San d'Orian and your nation may need to be in first place (don't know much about the Sandy items) - although you should still be able to buy them at the auction house regardless. You might have a hard time finding them for sale at the auction houses in Bastok or Windurst though. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-11-2008, 03:16 AM | #4 (permalink) | | Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,208 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 30 Thanked 51x in 37 Posts Gil: 5,174 Bank: 8,116 Total Gil: 13,290 Donate | Re: Some Monk Questions. On a sidenote, as Monk, you'd be doing fine with no weapon at all up to level 20 too. Saves a lot of delay but lowers your damage only a little bit. 
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Bard 71 (leveling  ) | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-11-2008, 05:43 AM | #5 (permalink) | | Subligar King Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Fort Bliss, TX Posts: 76 Style: Dark - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 13 Thanked 7x in 7 Posts Gil: 2,232 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,232 Donate | Re: Some Monk Questions. Originally Posted by Kittyneko | | On a sidenote, as Monk, you'd be doing fine with no weapon at all up to level 20 too. Saves a lot of delay but lowers your damage only a little bit. | Except if you have to fight monsters with higher def. (crabs for example) Originally Posted by Aeolus | | solo to 12 in konschat on worms or in gustaberg killing everything for a couple of hours. | Just look for group while you are solo'ing in Konschat, there is always a chance a good party is out there... even more-so today with most players lvling new jobs with PLs haha RESTLESSTORNADO OF RAMUH | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-11-2008, 07:56 AM | #6 (permalink) | | Paragon of Bard Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 201 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 21 Thanked 18x in 15 Posts Gil: 1,549 Bank: 1 Total Gil: 1,550 Donate | Re: Some Monk Questions. At level 10 I usually just sit around in the Konschat Highlands with my looking for group tag up. Even though I don't usually play as combat jobs I find that level 10 it's a lot easier to die there than other places. But that could just be my general suckage.
Paitence is the main thing you need, but you will get invites. Before going and putting up your LFG tag in the highlands (LFG tag is under the party menu, by the way, seek party) buy a map of the dunes (I think it's clumped in with the map of sandoria) and it shouldn't take that long to get an invite, dunes parties always have members coming and going, and there's not much room to pick and choose.
When you're in party, if you try your best and are willing to learn, when they see you have no Linkshell icon next to your name, they may ask you to join theres. (Unless you have a bazarre open, then they'll just see that brown bag next to your name.)
Hope this helps a little BRD 75 WHM 44 NIN 23 WAR 20 THF 18 RDM 16
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Bard Maat Masher: Shiva Record Holder, 4 minutes, 47 seconds. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-11-2008, 09:19 AM | #7 (permalink) | | Subligar King Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Fort Bliss, TX Posts: 76 Style: Dark - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 13 Thanked 7x in 7 Posts Gil: 2,232 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,232 Donate | Re: Some Monk Questions. Originally Posted by Prons | | At level 10 I usually just sit around in the Konschat Highlands with my looking for group tag up. Even though I don't usually play as combat jobs I find that level 10 it's a lot easier to die there than other places. | The sooner you learn what your limitations are, the better. (Even more-so as a melee job~)
At lvl 10 you can fight Bees near the Craig of Dem, just be carefull of the Final Still TP move Bees use. And at lvl 12 you can fight worms as mentioned in another post. RESTLESSTORNADO OF RAMUH | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-11-2008, 10:07 AM | #8 (permalink) | | Model A7M2 FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 3,155 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 278 Thanked 820x in 435 Posts Gil: 59,378 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 59,378 Donate | Re: Some Monk Questions. | Quote: | | On a sidenote, as Monk, you'd be doing fine with no weapon at all up to level 20 too. Saves a lot of delay but lowers your damage only a little bit. | Absolutely not. Even Cat Baghnakhs are better than being barehanded, even at 20. | Quote: | | Except if you have to fight monsters with higher def. (crabs for example) | There's no relationship between Defense and DMG. There is no such thing as more of your damage getting through the mob's Defense or anything like that. The change in damage will stay proportional.
Edit: Something no one seems to have mentioned: always eat food when you fight. Always. You'll want Meat Jerky. You can find NPC vendors that will sell it cheap by checking Somepage and FFXIClopedia. Last edited by Armando : 01-11-2008 at 10:14 AM. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-11-2008, 01:10 PM | #9 (permalink) | | /Facepalm Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: California Posts: 224 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 48 Thanked 18x in 16 Posts Gil: 223 Bank: 101,512 Total Gil: 101,735 Donate | Re: Some Monk Questions. Originally Posted by Armando | | Absolutely not. Even Cat Baghnakhs are better than being barehanded, even at 20.There's no relationship between Defense and DMG. There is no such thing as more of your damage getting through the mob's Defense or anything like that. The change in damage will stay proportional. | Armando could you explain this more or point me to a place, I am a little confused. I remember fighting Crabs, Crawlers, or using the spell Cocoon and watching DMG reduce when it is active and increase when it wares off. PSN ID: Kelshan Completed: Folklore, Time Crisis 4, Dark Sector, Timeshift, Lair, Orange Box, The Darkness, Resistance: Fall of Man, Heavenly Sword, and F.E.A.R. Currently Playing: Oblivion, Condemned 2 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-11-2008, 01:15 PM | #10 (permalink) | | Can't You Read? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 392 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 2 Thanked 18x in 14 Posts Gil: 3,096 Bank: 3,378 Total Gil: 6,474 Donate | Re: Some Monk Questions. Attack affects your damage versus defense (not your weapon damage).
Having higher damage weapon, only increases your damage if you have enough attack to make use of it. (short answer).
In Dyna run atm.. basically you lose damage from defense up moves like cocoon because your attack lowers your pdif which is a multiplier on your base damage.
However - not using weapons at all on monk means you've got a weapon rank of either 0 or 1 I think... been a while since I checked H2H. So - if you increase your weapon damage by 1, assuming you've a cRatio of 1, you'll increase per hit by one. Last edited by Spinnthrift : 01-11-2008 at 01:30 PM. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-11-2008, 01:16 PM | #11 (permalink) | | Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chicago Suburbs Posts: 1,896 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 178 Thanked 485x in 285 Posts Gil: 4,654 Bank: 126,672 Total Gil: 131,325 Donate | Re: Some Monk Questions. DMG =/= Damage dealt. DMG is the damage rating of your weapon(not the amount of actual damage you do), which is the base for calculating how much damage is done to a monster. This is a set value, it's the other variables in the damage formula that are affected by the variances in your/the monster's stats. 'Attack' is the stat that is compared against Defense for these purposes. Callisto of Ramuh - RDM / BRD / WHM / PLD Putting the 'MP' in "Who the hell just MPK'd the whole alliance?!" since 2004. MogHouse LS: Sky/Sea/Dynamis/Limbus/Tacos www.moghousels.com! | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-11-2008, 01:54 PM | #12 (permalink) | | /Facepalm Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: California Posts: 224 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 48 Thanked 18x in 16 Posts Gil: 223 Bank: 101,512 Total Gil: 101,735 Donate | Re: Some Monk Questions. 1) Does this mean there is a cap of "attack" a person can use per weapon and any extra "attack" is useless?
2) Does this mean if I reach the "attack" cap for a weapon, my damage for that weapon would vary only a little? PSN ID: Kelshan Completed: Folklore, Time Crisis 4, Dark Sector, Timeshift, Lair, Orange Box, The Darkness, Resistance: Fall of Man, Heavenly Sword, and F.E.A.R. Currently Playing: Oblivion, Condemned 2 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-11-2008, 01:59 PM | #13 (permalink) | | Model A7M2 FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 3,155 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 278 Thanked 820x in 435 Posts Gil: 59,378 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 59,378 Donate | Re: Some Monk Questions. DMG does not affect the calculations for Attack or Defense in any way.
What I meant with my comment is that there are no bonuses for high DMG. A weapon with 40 effective DMG will always hit twice as hard as a weapon with 20 effective DMG, no matter how low or high the mob's Defense. The proportions are kept.
Your Attack is capped when it exceeds twice the mob's Defense. And no, it'll still vary. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Armando for above post: | | | 01-11-2008, 02:01 PM | #14 (permalink) | | Can't You Read? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 392 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 2 Thanked 18x in 14 Posts Gil: 3,096 Bank: 3,378 Total Gil: 6,474 Donate | Re: Some Monk Questions. Ans 1: Yes, but it's hard to reach. You need to be at 2.0 cRatio, which is your attack/their defense - level correction.
Ans 2: Yes.. By x1.6 - x2.4 base weapon damage, with fStr modifying your weapon damage up to weapon rank iirc. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Spinnthrift for above post: | | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:44 PM. | | |