07-05-2007, 03:16 PM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: UK, Birmingham Posts: 108 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 18 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 9,602 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 9,602 Donate | Monk or Dragoon? After spending ages to grab the Avatars for my 20 summoner, i have grown tired of mage jobs and have decided to ether level my dragoon again, or go back to my 37 monk.
I am aware of some benifits of both, but can anyone display there opinions/facts of which i should go for and why? Thanks | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-05-2007, 04:05 PM | #2 (permalink) | | go cry emo kid Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 684 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 100 Thanked 39x in 32 Posts Gil: 4,598 Bank: 16,924 Total Gil: 21,522 Donate | Re: Monk or Dragoon? Monk can be very boring, 'cause all you do is stand and punch. The occasional JA and WS helps, but it's still fairly boring.
My DRG is only 10 personally, but I think it's fun. DRG has more variety than MNK, but prolly a tad bit less invites, due to misconceptions of the job.
Both are DD, and are similar in that you'll be seeking a lot. Choose one that you think looks coolest. Or level DRG to 37 as well, then pick from there. 
Thanks to Roguewolf for the sig. :D | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-05-2007, 04:41 PM | #3 (permalink) | | Altanaの戦士 Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Fenrir Server Posts: 2,785 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 130 Thanked 311x in 198 Posts Gil: 1,066 Bank: 77,617 Total Gil: 78,683 Donate | Re: Monk or Dragoon? Would thinking about being MNK/DRG and using (Chi Blast) in the middle of a (Super Jump) while /shout'ng "KAMEEEEHAMEEEE HAAAAA!" be too much?  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Raydeus for above post: | | | 07-05-2007, 04:43 PM | #4 (permalink) | | go cry emo kid Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 684 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 100 Thanked 39x in 32 Posts Gil: 4,598 Bank: 16,924 Total Gil: 21,522 Donate | Re: Monk or Dragoon? That's actually a really freaking awesome idea. I want to go finish level'ing DRG just so I can do that now. 
Thanks to Roguewolf for the sig. :D | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-05-2007, 11:31 PM | #5 (permalink) | | The Architect Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lincoln, UK Posts: 1,088 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 232 Thanked 136x in 96 Posts Gil: 8,952 Bank: 164,530 Total Gil: 173,482 Donate | Re: Monk or Dragoon? As alvl 28 mnk I must say it is a good job, you have high HP, good strength and can cause some kick ass damage compared to other DD jobs. (especially if you a Galka like me) Dragon means you can do more soloing with your wyvern, but I personally would choose monk.  Brickshouse - The returning Galka. PLD/WAR/MNK/DNC/SAM
Eurdice - The mithra of Justice - WAR/MNK/RDM | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-05-2007, 11:48 PM | #6 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 529 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 68 Thanked 50x in 40 Posts Gil: 11,800 Bank: 20,490 Total Gil: 32,291 Donate | Re: Monk or Dragoon? Go monk!
If you're bored with mage jobs, I'm sure it will be fun to drop all the magic and just beat the crap out of something.  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-06-2007, 01:16 AM | #7 (permalink) | The BBQ Kitten Revolution FFXIWiki Team Join Date: May 2006 Location: Windurst Posts: 4,551 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 158 Thanked 1,253x in 697 Posts Gil: 36,096 Bank: 10 Total Gil: 36,106 Donate | Re: Monk or Dragoon? MNK ... hits stuff. That's pretty much MNK in a nutshell. Pretty straight-forward job.
DRG's a bit more versitile. They can shed hate placed on them, they have three modes for thier wyverns which are influenced by subjob and because of this, you can make solo things respectably as a DRG, cast a spell like Dia at 33% HP and the wyvern will heal you if you use a mage sub (doesn't work with /SMN tho, can only have one pet).
DRG requires a bit more subjob maitenence, though. WAR, SAM, THF, mage subs and even NIN can be beneficial in various situations. MNK's core subs are WAR, WHM and NIN for later levels in TP burn.
Overall DRG is better of you're looking for a busy job with more variety to it. MNK is just for the times you want to hit stuff. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-06-2007, 03:32 AM | #8 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: UK, Birmingham Posts: 108 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 18 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 9,602 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 9,602 Donate | Re: Monk or Dragoon? Originally Posted by Raydeus | Would thinking about being MNK/DRG and using (Chi Blast) in the middle of a (Super Jump) while /shout'ng "KAMEEEEHAMEEEE HAAAAA!" be too much? | That would be so cool i may try that someday
I have herd that come level 40, Galka monks have over or just about 1000hp without any enhacing equipment. Is this true? Last edited by Vildar : 07-06-2007 at 03:37 AM. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-06-2007, 04:01 AM | #9 (permalink) | | The Architect Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lincoln, UK Posts: 1,088 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 232 Thanked 136x in 96 Posts Gil: 8,952 Bank: 164,530 Total Gil: 173,482 Donate | Re: Monk or Dragoon? If I unequip brick of all equipment at lvl 28 and have war as sub he has around 686HP according to wikipedia at level 75 (end game) Galka Monks with war sub has 1749Hp with no equipment or stat boosts, thats 109 more than its nearest race being Elvan.  Brickshouse - The returning Galka. PLD/WAR/MNK/DNC/SAM
Eurdice - The mithra of Justice - WAR/MNK/RDM | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-06-2007, 04:02 AM | #10 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: UK, Birmingham Posts: 108 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 18 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 9,602 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 9,602 Donate | Re: Monk or Dragoon? Wow thats not a bad lot of hp. To me galkas make the better monks than elvans. I have about 895 hp with war subbed at the moment. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-06-2007, 06:19 AM | #11 (permalink) | | t('-'t) ToA! Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 321 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 25 Thanked 25x in 13 Posts Gil: 3,455 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,455 Donate | Re: Monk or Dragoon? Originally Posted by Jarre | | As alvl 28 mnk I must say it is a good job, you have high HP, good strength and can cause some kick ass damage compared to other DD jobs. (especially if you a Galka like me) Dragon means you can do more soloing with your wyvern, but I personally would choose monk. | Actually, Monk's uber dps status doesn't come until higher levels. A decently equipped Dragoon will outdamage other melees 1-50 basically not even trying.
Even after that, a good Dragoon is going to stay near the tip of parses, mostly thanks to everyone being crazy about Colibri and other squishy mobs around level 55+ and the fact that DRG isn't a weak job anyways.
Soloing is a definate positive to leveling Dragoon, but it shouldn't be pushed to the forefront and the jobs only utility. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Auron517 for above post: | | | 07-06-2007, 06:43 AM | #12 (permalink) | | LOLDRG Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 850 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 88 Thanked 65x in 47 Posts Gil: 13,438 Bank: 50,751 Total Gil: 64,189 Donate | Re: Monk or Dragoon? Lots of hp only really helps if you are tanking.
Mnk is a fun job and I would play it more if I had more time. Drg is also fun. My suggestion is to try out drg and if you start getting bored with, then go back to mnk. We could tell you all day long how cool both jobs are, but until you play then you won't know for yourself. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-06-2007, 06:47 AM | #13 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 943 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 236 Thanked 69x in 61 Posts Gil: 1,647 Bank: 81,386 Total Gil: 83,033 Donate | Re: Monk or Dragoon? Originally Posted by Silent Howler | Go monk!
If you're bored with mage jobs, I'm sure it will be fun to drop all the magic and just beat the crap out of something.  | Silent Howler, that anime GIF is awesome!
Ok, back to the topic~
The art of DD MNK/WAR is to gear as much of damage output without getting yourself killed in exp. party. Is MNK fun or boring? It depends on how you play it. If the player "just stand there" and his mind is AFK, it can be boring. If the player is pushing the limit of the job and the party, I find that exciting.  Server: Quetzalcoatl
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75 PLD, 75 SAM, 75 WAR, 75 NIN, 66 MNK, 50 BLU, 39 RDM, 37 DRK, 37 THF, 37 DNC, 33 WHM, 30 PUP, 27 BLM, 26 DRG, 14 RNG | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-06-2007, 07:45 AM | #14 (permalink) | | Altanaの戦士 Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Fenrir Server Posts: 2,785 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 130 Thanked 311x in 198 Posts Gil: 1,066 Bank: 77,617 Total Gil: 78,683 Donate | Re: Monk or Dragoon? So boring 99% of the time?
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PS> Konachan > All the MNKs put together.  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-06-2007, 07:45 AM | #15 (permalink) | | Lightness Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,393 Style: Light - Version 4 My Mood: Thanks: 92 Thanked 129x in 77 Posts Gil: 10,287 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 10,287 Donate | Re: Monk or Dragoon? smash things with your fists. Omni@Remora: NIN75 RNG75 MNK75 COR75 BST63 BRD45
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