07-15-2006, 09:14 AM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: ohio Posts: 101 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 4,842 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,842 Donate | wow...what was going on? I just came from a exp PT consisting of 5 linkshell ppl. the members were a BRD,WHM, RDM, PLD, MNK, MNK(me). We were in quicksand caves. facing mainly beetles. pt lvl 44-46
Me and the other Mnk both had very good gear. O kotes, jujitsu gi. i had a Brown belt, and a few more attack items over her. She was using the lvl 40 mnk weap, the one that gives VIT+3, i was using mithral knuckles +! and both humes, only a 1 lvl diff
the thing is she was outdamging me 90% of the time. overall i had better STR and more ATK, was alternating between focus and berserk. she was really owning me. how? is that mnk weap she had piercing? i dont understand... | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-15-2006, 09:15 AM | #2 (permalink) | | Senior Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,286 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7x in 5 Posts Gil: 5,196 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 5,196 Donate | Re: wow...what was going on? Give us a readout on the equip please.  75WHM 75BLM 57BST 50RDM 42SMN 28BRD
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[GM]Dave>> Too many bannings every 28 days? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-15-2006, 09:22 AM | #3 (permalink) | | Ares's Cuirass Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,990 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 8 Thanked 31x in 25 Posts Gil: 2,124 Bank: 3,166 Total Gil: 5,290 Donate | Re: wow...what was going on? 1 level dif can mean IT-VT which is alot of dmg. 75 Mnk Sam | 70 Drk | 40 Blm | 37 Nin Rng Thf War
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ZM:Complete CoP:Complete ToAU:27 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-15-2006, 09:55 AM | #4 (permalink) | | Senior Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 1,186 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 9 Thanked 12x in 11 Posts Gil: 1,382 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,382 Donate | Re: wow...what was going on? There are no piercing hand to hand weapons. Vampiric Claws are slashing, and that's the only non-blunt hand to hand weapon there is. (Katars are blunt too, despite being large blades strapped to your hands.)
One level can make a pretty good difference. So can food and merits. It could also be the higher base damage on tourney patas (as well as increased stats from being a level higher) could be helping her against the high defense beetles.
The major thing that would effect damage (assuming equal/near equal gear, level, and merits) would be food. If you were using sushi while the other MNK was using meat, that'd definitely do it. (Bard madrigaling and all.) If you were using a low capping meat and they were using a high capping one, that'd do it too. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-15-2006, 11:09 AM | #5 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: ohio Posts: 101 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 4,842 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,842 Donate | Re: wow...what was going on? my gear=
hand= mithral knuckles +1
throwing= fortune egg
head= windustian headgear (str+1 dex+1)
neck= spike necklace
earrings= beetle+1 x2
body= jujitsu g1
hands = okotes
rings= Puincense+1, woodsman
back= cavaliers mantle
waist= brown belt
legs= jujitsu sabaki
feet= federation kayahan
food= squid sushi
no merits
the other mnk had almost the same things=
hands= tourny
head=(gave dex, dont remember)
neck= think spikenecklace
earrings= beetle+1 x2
body= gi
hands okotes
rings= i think it was courage+1 and courage
back= (gave 2 elemants +3 cant remember)
waist= purple belt
legs= combat casters slacks +1
feet= fed kayahan (i think)
food= cheifkabobs
no merits
i was barly winning in DoT but her raging fists was about 100+ higher than mine at all times.
also i just got in a pt with a pup a hr about and a few times his raging fists (tarutaru) beat me by 100+ i dont think i have bad gear for my lvl....is it just raging fists???? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-15-2006, 11:11 AM | #6 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 120 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 17 Thanked 16x in 8 Posts Gil: 5,553 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 5,553 Donate | Re: wow...what was going on? Another thing: were you getting the same songs from the Bard? Depending on where you were standing you might have been clipped by the Ballad if the Bard was singing it to hit both the mages and the Pld. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-15-2006, 11:16 AM | #7 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 99 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 2 Thanked 2x in 2 Posts Gil: 1,383 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,383 Donate | Re: wow...what was going on? Seems that the extra level gave additional acc and alowed her to use meat for lots of + attack and +str, vs your sushi use which would give you a decent hitrate but lower dmg. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-15-2006, 11:16 AM | #8 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: ohio Posts: 101 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 4,842 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,842 Donate | Re: wow...what was going on? no, rdm was refreshing pld, whm was standing very far away and was easy to ballad. i got same songs. It was a very good pt, everyone did was they were supposed to. just i was really hoping to outdmg the other mnk...seeing as she is my wife and all ROFL  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-15-2006, 11:31 AM | #9 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,871 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 5 Thanked 28x in 22 Posts Gil: 19,945 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 19,945 Donate | Re: wow...what was going on? one level can make all the difference in the world. it makes IT mobs into low Vt mobs. i mean it is +3acc, an +3 atk to your weapon in some sort of sense. 
Nin75, Bst75. Drk61, War61, Rdm40, All other jobs are 37. All 3 starting city missions completed. All Zilart missions completed. All CoP missions completed. TouA completed. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-15-2006, 11:36 AM | #10 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 33 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 845 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 845 Donate | Re: wow...what was going on? Try some rice dumplings next time for your food, can get almost as much +att out of them as mithkabobs, and a flat +5acc. ^^b
I generally bring sushi & meat with me, as well as acc gear for every slot I can. I'll adjust eq to get as much acc as I need to get a "low evasion" check without focus if I can, if hit rate feels decent, then I'll eat meat. If I have troubles getting consistent low eva check, or if we're overcamping a little, then I'm likely to use sushi, and pile on the att/str gear to try and get the "low defense" check. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-15-2006, 03:23 PM | #11 (permalink) | | Senior Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 1,186 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 9 Thanked 12x in 11 Posts Gil: 1,382 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,382 Donate | Re: wow...what was going on? Woo, I called it. It was the sushi. Sushi's not too good before level 50 (where monsters seem to get an all around evasion boost), and with a bard in the 40's it's not really needed. Basically, you had overkill accuracy and the other monk didn't.
Like MrFrodo said, rice dumplings are great. Although I think you'll outlevel them pretty soon. If you static with that bard, you might not need sushi too much. At least you won't if you don't fight things way higher level than you. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-15-2006, 05:18 PM | #12 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: ohio Posts: 101 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 4,842 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,842 Donate | Re: wow...what was going on? no static with the brd, that was the only job not in our LS PT at that time. Im almost lvl 45, what food should i be using? would sole sushi blow everything else away when i get to 50? Also is there a alternative to Sole? that stuff is kinda expensive ..... | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-20-2006, 03:00 PM | #13 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 51 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 581 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 581 Donate | Re: wow...what was going on? Try out bream sushi instead of sole. It's much cheaper and worked fine for me. 75MNK | 75 SAM | 75 NIN | 75 BLU | 75 THF | 75 WAR | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-20-2006, 03:22 PM | #14 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 154 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 12x in 11 Posts Gil: 7,827 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 7,827 Donate | Re: wow...what was going on? | Originally Posted by IxX3xil3d0n3XxI | i was really hoping to outdmg the other mnk...seeing as she is my wife and all ROFL | I know I'm straying from the topic, but this really got me going.  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 07:56 AM. | | |