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Old 06-07-2006, 11:30 PM   #1
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SH or AF

You know I have been thinking about this for awhile now and I just cant dacide which body peace to use, SH or AF! Ok I made a Mithra Monk and got her to 50 and now Im starting to wonder if I should use SH or AF, now I'm bringing into account that she is a Mithra and she has some good Dex which gives me some more Acc. I would really like to hear some opinions on this one please.
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Old 06-08-2006, 06:08 AM   #2
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Re: SH or AF

Clearly, SH is a better piece than AF. The question is whether one should spend the gil on SH when one already has such a nice piece for free.

MNK AF1 body is probably one of the most useful AF1 bodies in the game for melee. The fact that we get it for free is very nice. However, a lot of people are perfectionist or like to keep up with the Jones' so they get the SH. Yes, the extra 5acc is great as is 10eva for those times when you inevitably get hate. Even with this in mind, anyone who tells you SH is mandatory is full of it.

5 acc won't make much of a difference. If you don't already have 2 sniper rings and some sort of ACC neck piece you should look to those places for ACC first honestly. Depending on your server's prices, you could pick up 2x Sniper's or 1x Sniper's and 1x Chivalrous Chain for less than the price of SH. So you end up with +10acc instead of just the 5acc improvement with SH.

With an A+ weapon you may find you don't even really need the accuracy from SH once you have the other slots fitted out with acc gear.
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Re: SH or AF

You got the money=SH
You don't have the money=AF

It's really as simple as that. Monk AF Body is free and it works great but if you got money burning a hole in your pocket get the SH but only after you get all the other sweet gear a monk can wear. O.Kote, Kick Shoes, Monk Belts, just to name a few. It should be close to the last thing you should buy.

The Dex deference between a Mithra and a every other race for a monk is not big. When a Monk Elvaan needs to eat acc food odds are a Monk Mithra would need to also need to eat it, if they were equiped the same. Your HTH Skill and the level difference between you and the thing your fighting makes a much bigger impact then your dex.
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Re: SH or AF

If you can afford it go for the SH and macro you AF body for Chakra. The Vit+3 isnt really usefull except for Chakra and the 5 xtra acc the SH offers will make a difference. The evasion+10 is gonna help out soloing or those times you get hate in a PT as well. SH is a very usefull piece of equip but it is gonna cost ya
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Re: SH or AF

I love my SH.

It has made me lazy enough to not go do my AF coffer for the body yet.

However, if you don't want to, or you're hitting fine without it, why bother. I wanted it because I've always wanted to wear one. Same thing for Spartan Cesti. So if either you feel like your accuracy blows, or you just want one, then buy it. Otherwise, I wouldn't worry.
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Re: SH or AF

Even if you have a SH from another job, I think you should still get the Temple Cyclas.

I hate being considered by some WHMs as an MP sponge, so I love Chakra. Try as I might to avoid hate, I still get whacked, and I'm usually watching the last few seconds tick off before I can use Chakra again. 3*VIT is so much sweeter than 2*VIT.
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Re: SH or AF

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Re: SH or AF

Capitalistnihilist hit the nail on the head, I think. Scorpion Harness is probably one of the last things you should by as MNK. You can get the same amount of ACC bonus from chivalrous chain without sacrificing STR for under half the price. Or you can buy spectacles and get +7 acc (which is as much as a scorpion harness +1 gives MNK) for less than the cost of a scorpion harness.
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Re: SH or AF

Ok, I have to ask cause Ive been confused long enough and can risk the moment of stupidity but what doest QFT mean?
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Re: SH or AF

IMO, a SH is not worth the 14+million for 5 more acc, unless you're drop dead rich, stick with Cyclas. There are other things you should get with that anyways, like Snipers/O kote/Brown Belt/ect.
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Re: SH or AF

Yea thats what people are saying tho, Its great if you can afford it but I would have all those other things as well :p Not sure how much those rse clomps are for tarus at lv62 now on hades, something like 16mil last time I was on I think, cant wait to buy em tho, look so pimp. Or bcnm for them xD
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Re: SH or AF

Considering the Temple Cyclas already gives 5 acc I'd say put the money into something that'll give you more bang for your buck. ie. O. Kote, Brown Belt (if you don't already have it), Sniper/Woodsman rings (personal preference if you want the -def and drk resist or -eva)
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Re: SH or AF

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Chivalrous Chain for less than the price of SH.
A bit off-topic, can someone tell/link me how to get the chain? Alla and Somepage have no info on how to get it....
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(Other than buying it on AH )
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