06-07-2006, 10:30 PM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 6 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,074 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,074 Donate | SH or AF You know I have been thinking about this for awhile now and I just cant dacide which body peace to use, SH or AF! Ok I made a Mithra Monk and got her to 50 and now Im starting to wonder if I should use SH or AF, now I'm bringing into account that she is a Mithra and she has some good Dex which gives me some more Acc. I would really like to hear some opinions on this one please. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-08-2006, 05:08 AM | #2 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 192 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 346 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 346 Donate | Re: SH or AF Clearly, SH is a better piece than AF. The question is whether one should spend the gil on SH when one already has such a nice piece for free.
MNK AF1 body is probably one of the most useful AF1 bodies in the game for melee. The fact that we get it for free is very nice. However, a lot of people are perfectionist or like to keep up with the Jones' so they get the SH. Yes, the extra 5acc is great as is 10eva for those times when you inevitably get hate. Even with this in mind, anyone who tells you SH is mandatory is full of it.
5 acc won't make much of a difference. If you don't already have 2 sniper rings and some sort of ACC neck piece you should look to those places for ACC first honestly. Depending on your server's prices, you could pick up 2x Sniper's or 1x Sniper's and 1x Chivalrous Chain for less than the price of SH. So you end up with +10acc instead of just the 5acc improvement with SH.
With an A+ weapon you may find you don't even really need the accuracy from SH once you have the other slots fitted out with acc gear. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-08-2006, 05:09 AM | #3 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 52 Style: Light - Version 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2x in 2 Posts Gil: 1,505 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,505 Donate | Re: SH or AF You got the money=SH
You don't have the money=AF
It's really as simple as that. Monk AF Body is free and it works great but if you got money burning a hole in your pocket get the SH but only after you get all the other sweet gear a monk can wear. O.Kote, Kick Shoes, Monk Belts, just to name a few. It should be close to the last thing you should buy.
The Dex deference between a Mithra and a every other race for a monk is not big. When a Monk Elvaan needs to eat acc food odds are a Monk Mithra would need to also need to eat it, if they were equiped the same. Your HTH Skill and the level difference between you and the thing your fighting makes a much bigger impact then your dex. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-08-2006, 05:27 AM | #4 (permalink) | | Ares's Cuirass Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,990 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 8 Thanked 31x in 25 Posts Gil: 1,433 Bank: 3,166 Total Gil: 4,599 Donate | Re: SH or AF If you can afford it go for the SH and macro you AF body for Chakra. The Vit+3 isnt really usefull except for Chakra and the 5 xtra acc the SH offers will make a difference. The evasion+10 is gonna help out soloing or those times you get hate in a PT as well. SH is a very usefull piece of equip but it is gonna cost ya  75 Mnk Sam | 70 Drk | 40 Blm | 37 Nin Rng Thf War
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ZM:Complete CoP:Complete ToAU:27 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-08-2006, 05:48 AM | #5 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 367 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 3,357 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,357 Donate | Re: SH or AF I love my SH.
It has made me lazy enough to not go do my AF coffer for the body yet.
However, if you don't want to, or you're hitting fine without it, why bother. I wanted it because I've always wanted to wear one. Same thing for Spartan Cesti. So if either you feel like your accuracy blows, or you just want one, then buy it. Otherwise, I wouldn't worry. 66MNK | 37WAR | 22SAM | 20THF | 20BST | 18 NIN | 17BLM | 10WHM Cooking 69 / Fishing 48 01 / 10 on Hoo Mjuu the Torrent (Monster Signa: O)
01 / 08 on Mee Deggi the Punisher (Ochiumsha Kote: O) 01 / 04 on Quu Domi the Gallant (Sarutobi Kyahan: O) | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-08-2006, 09:14 AM | #6 (permalink) | | lolnoob Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 219 Style: Light - Version 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,403 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,403 Donate | Re: SH or AF Even if you have a SH from another job, I think you should still get the Temple Cyclas.
I hate being considered by some WHMs as an MP sponge, so I love Chakra. Try as I might to avoid hate, I still get whacked, and I'm usually watching the last few seconds tick off before I can use Chakra again. 3*VIT is so much sweeter than 2*VIT.  Dryhus, Elvaan male | Bismarck | San d'Oria 6 | Windurst 5
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Smithing 29 | Alchemy 27 | Goldsmithing 21 Bismarck Crafting Services My Skillcap Chart, printable on 8.5"x11" | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-08-2006, 09:18 AM | #7 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 367 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 3,357 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,357 Donate | Re: SH or AF | Quote: | | Even if you have a SH from another job, I think you should still get the Temple Cyclas. | QFT 66MNK | 37WAR | 22SAM | 20THF | 20BST | 18 NIN | 17BLM | 10WHM Cooking 69 / Fishing 48 01 / 10 on Hoo Mjuu the Torrent (Monster Signa: O)
01 / 08 on Mee Deggi the Punisher (Ochiumsha Kote: O) 01 / 04 on Quu Domi the Gallant (Sarutobi Kyahan: O) | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-08-2006, 09:41 AM | #8 (permalink) | | Senior Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 1,186 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 9 Thanked 12x in 11 Posts Gil: 1,286 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,286 Donate | Re: SH or AF Capitalistnihilist hit the nail on the head, I think. Scorpion Harness is probably one of the last things you should by as MNK. You can get the same amount of ACC bonus from chivalrous chain without sacrificing STR for under half the price. Or you can buy spectacles and get +7 acc (which is as much as a scorpion harness +1 gives MNK) for less than the cost of a scorpion harness. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-08-2006, 10:35 AM | #9 (permalink) | | Ares's Cuirass Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,990 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 8 Thanked 31x in 25 Posts Gil: 1,433 Bank: 3,166 Total Gil: 4,599 Donate | Re: SH or AF Ok, I have to ask cause Ive been confused long enough and can risk the moment of stupidity but what doest QFT mean?  75 Mnk Sam | 70 Drk | 40 Blm | 37 Nin Rng Thf War
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ZM:Complete CoP:Complete ToAU:27 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-08-2006, 12:29 PM | #11 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 324 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,314 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,314 Donate | Re: SH or AF IMO, a SH is not worth the 14+million for 5 more acc, unless you're drop dead rich, stick with Cyclas. There are other things you should get with that anyways, like Snipers/O kote/Brown Belt/ect.  SUICHI IS DEAD. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-08-2006, 01:27 PM | #12 (permalink) | | Ares's Cuirass Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,990 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 8 Thanked 31x in 25 Posts Gil: 1,433 Bank: 3,166 Total Gil: 4,599 Donate | Re: SH or AF Yea thats what people are saying tho, Its great if you can afford it but I would have all those other things as well :p Not sure how much those rse clomps are for tarus at lv62 now on hades, something like 16mil last time I was on I think, cant wait to buy em tho, look so pimp. Or bcnm for them xD 75 Mnk Sam | 70 Drk | 40 Blm | 37 Nin Rng Thf War
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ZM:Complete CoP:Complete ToAU:27 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-09-2006, 01:40 AM | #13 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 8 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 234 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 234 Donate | Re: SH or AF Considering the Temple Cyclas already gives 5 acc I'd say put the money into something that'll give you more bang for your buck. ie. O. Kote, Brown Belt (if you don't already have it), Sniper/Woodsman rings (personal preference if you want the -def and drk resist or -eva) | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-09-2006, 02:13 AM | #14 (permalink) | | Black Mage solo fun Join Date: May 2006 Location: Porirua, New Zealand Posts: 151 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 37 Thanked 21x in 10 Posts Gil: 13,443 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 13,443 Donate | Re: SH or AF | Originally Posted by capitalistnihilist | | Chivalrous Chain for less than the price of SH. | A bit off-topic, can someone tell/link me how to get the chain? Alla and Somepage have no info on how to get it....
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