Go Back   Dreams in Vanadiel - Final Fantasy XI Forum > FFXI Game Related > Race & Job Type Q & A > Monk

Post New Thread Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-01-2006, 06:11 AM   #31
go cry emo kid
Bronze Ribbon of Service
 
KoukiRyu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 698
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 109
Thanked 40x in 33 Posts
My Mood:
Send a message via AIM to KoukiRyu Send a message via MSN to KoukiRyu
   
Re: SH or AF

I was looking at that headgear...but I really don't like the thought of being blinded just for extra crit...but I still kinda wanna try it, lol...but for now, Destroyers+Pahlu+Crit merits will work just fine for me <3 Oh and btw, Pahlu is only reported to add about 1~3% in crit, but after I dinged 72 I noticed a pretty good difference, dunno exactly if that's right, but seems maybe 3% or a lil more :3
__________________

Thanks to Roguewolf for the sig. :D
KoukiRyu is offline   Reply With Quote Button by Aksannyi :)
Old 09-01-2006, 02:31 PM   #32
Dictionary
Allied Ribbon of Bravery
 
Lmnop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Warrior
Posts: 1,947
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 227
Thanked 354x in 220 Posts
My Mood:
   
Re: SH or AF

I don't know if you're built towards sushi or meat, but that blind kabuto fella seems kinda useless to me for a sushi build (if you have acc to spare, meat dishes will help more than some crit rate)... I guess ideally you'd be a meat build with 10 more acc than normal. Too bad people like... never exp in KRT any more, that would make that hat incredible (since you're already blind so much).

SH unfortunately has one major advantage end-game: Monks do evade quite a bit against VT mobs. having a macro for when you have hate that ups agi (for guard as much as for evasion) and evasion would be nice. Nvm, that's what a full Crow set is for.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by a Korean forum poster in reference to a kung fu video game trailer
In order for video 2 when comes to be this labor hour height 1 years which listens to go over, with video month should raises and puts and within the feeling no news peeling the horse's nose large spotted butterfly hour heights the awaking tongue are salty the field Oh
^Babelfish hard at work
Lmnop is offline   Reply With Quote Button by Aksannyi :)
Old 09-01-2006, 02:42 PM   #33
Lightness
Allied Ribbon of Glory
 
Omni's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,392
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 95
Thanked 131x in 79 Posts
My Mood:
   
Re: SH or AF

Pahluwan Khazagand all the way (vs. SH)
anything that ups crit chance is great, especially on mnks since they attack very often and very fast. not to mention, all the multi-hit ws you guys have.
__________________
Omni@Remora: NIN75 RNG75 MNK75 COR75 BST64 BRD53
♪♫ San d'Oria Complete ♪♫ ZM Complete ♪♫ CoP Complete ♪♫ AM Complete ♪♫
Omni is offline   Reply With Quote Button by Aksannyi :)
Old 09-25-2006, 11:45 AM   #34
Junior Member
 
Elisen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 7
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0x in 0 Posts
   
Re: SH or AF

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omni-Ragnarok View Post
i dont understand the big fuss over sh. its only an OK improvment over af1 for mnk, heck its only an OK improvement for a lot of other jobs and their alternate body gears. like others have said, if you really really want to blow your gil on sh, go right ahead, no one is stopping you. but from a utility point of view, it isnt all what its cracked up to be.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that. I borrowed a scorp harness from a friend for about a month while he was on vacation and really the only use I got out of it was when I was first voke for sata and had a really slow thf and nin in my pt. But as soon as sata went off and the nin voked I changed back to my AF.


The only reason I would ever buy a SH is if I planned on tanking/being first voke all the time, or if I had more money than I knew what to do with and wanted it just for bragging rights. But all in all I don't really think SH is all its cracked up to be.
Elisen is offline   Reply With Quote Button by Aksannyi :)
Old 09-26-2006, 06:32 AM   #35
Junior Member
 
Loial's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 464
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 1
Thanked 2x in 2 Posts
   
Re: SH or AF

Monk evasion isn't all that bad. If you are pulling hate, you can dodge reasonably well with a SH (not well enough to tank). However, you can get better bang for your buck.

If you have the gil for a SH, look to improve other pieces of gear that might be lacking. If you are using a Spike Necklace, thing about a Chivalrous Chain. Maybe an Ochiudo's Kote instead of AF hands? How about T.M. Hooks+2 or Cross-counters instead of whatever it is you are using?

Upgrades like that is gil better spent. But, I bet if you have all of those, then you WILL be pulling hate and need that extra evasion
Loial is offline   Reply With Quote Button by Aksannyi :)
Old 11-05-2006, 11:26 PM   #36
Junior Member
 
Sinistra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 6
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0x in 0 Posts
   
Re: SH or AF

Well I have decided to post back since this topic has grown pretty bit. I actaully chose to by the SH and so I would know what it was like to use the AF for partys. From what I have seen it works beautifuly. Added Eva though dosnt really help lol I still get hit byt the imps and crap. Hopefully I can sell the SH soon so I can get my Shura Togi :D. Thank you all for the great responses.
__________________
Sinistra is offline   Reply With Quote Button by Aksannyi :)
Old 11-06-2006, 02:30 AM   #37
lolnoob
 
Dryhus's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 217
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0x in 0 Posts
   
Re: SH or AF

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loial View Post
If you have the gil for a SH, look to improve other pieces of gear that might be lacking. If you are using a Spike Necklace, thing about a Chivalrous Chain.
SH (10 Acc) - AF (5 Acc) = 5 Acc difference
Chivalrous Chain (5 Acc) - Spike Necklace (1.5 Acc) = 3.5 Acc difference

You can argue Store TP, but it's not making a big difference. At 80% Acc, it's an extra 10% TP every 63 rounds. A little under 1.5% TP every minute. You'll never 100% TP sooner than without StoreTP +1. Same goes for 150%, 200%, and 300%. But yes, ultimately it doesn't hurt.

I dunno...I say if you have the money for SH then get the SH...at least rather than spending almost all of it on Chivalrous Chain.
__________________
Dryhus, Elvaan male | Bismarck | San d'Oria 6 | Windurst 5
62RDM/60MNK/40BLM/37RNG/31WAR/24WHM/20NIN/19BRD/...
Woodworking 94.7+2 | Bonecraft 53 | Cooking 42 | Fishing 29
Smithing 29 | Alchemy 27 | Goldsmithing 21

Bismarck Crafting Services
My Skillcap Chart, printable on 8.5"x11"
Dryhus is offline   Reply With Quote Button by Aksannyi :)
Old 07-17-2007, 12:18 PM   #38
Junior Member
 
Vyren's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: England
Posts: 151
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 1
Thanked 6x in 4 Posts
Send a message via AIM to Vyren
   
Re: SH or AF

Migrate to Kujata, they're only 350-400k. XD I think the higher you get, the more the difference in race choice seems to be apparent. I was told by my good 75MNK friend as a mithra I can use SH + focus and have 2 HQSTR rings all the time. I always think Chiv chain is better then PC but that's just personal choice. I think if you're willing to get the money for it, +5acc will always help, but providing you have stuff like brown belt and kote, you can get away with MNK AF body. It's free, so it can't hurt that much. ^^
__________________
Vyren is offline   Reply With Quote Button by Aksannyi :)
Old 07-17-2007, 12:28 PM   #39
Lightness
Allied Ribbon of Glory
 
Omni's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,392
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 95
Thanked 131x in 79 Posts
My Mood:
   
Re: SH or AF

STR gear has been shown to be less important as u reach 75. Acc is a big key for mnk when letting go of asuran fists. missing 1-2 strikes on asuran is not worth having +10 STR.

i hope your friend doenst tp/ws in str gear.

btw, nice necro post.
__________________
Omni@Remora: NIN75 RNG75 MNK75 COR75 BST64 BRD53
♪♫ San d'Oria Complete ♪♫ ZM Complete ♪♫ CoP Complete ♪♫ AM Complete ♪♫
Omni is offline   Reply With Quote Button by Aksannyi :)
Old 04-03-2008, 04:46 AM   #40
Junior Member
 
Kildem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Italy
Posts: 225
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0x in 0 Posts
My Mood:
   
Re: SH or AF

I talk with my monk heart, and i would get the cyclas even if i had kirin osode (let's shoot an importat name just to sound cool lol). So yes, get the cyclas and THEN, if you have the chance, get the harness. Just consider that the cyclas is free, the harness isn't.
__________________
Kildem <At last, we finally met...>.
Medlik <Let's end this, quickly>.
Kildem is offline   Reply With Quote Button by Aksannyi :)
Old 04-03-2008, 06:05 AM   #41
Mog
King of the Oompa Loompas
Mythril Star
 
Mog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 3,752
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 19
Thanked 180x in 140 Posts
   
Re: SH or AF

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kildem View Post
I talk with my monk heart, and i would get the cyclas even if i had kirin osode (let's shoot an importat name just to sound cool lol). So yes, get the cyclas and THEN, if you have the chance, get the harness. Just consider that the cyclas is free, the harness isn't.
Congratulations on necroposting in a 9 month old thread.

And if you're a monk and don't have a scorpion harness at 59, shame on you. Farm until you can get enough for it, because it can easily last you until near 75.
__________________
~~~BLM SAM RNG NIN PLD~~~
Mog is offline   Reply With Quote Button by Aksannyi :)
Post New Thread Reply

Tags
af, sh

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:41 PM.
Site Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.8.1 Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC2
©2001-2009 SQUARE ENIX CO., LTD. All Rights Reserved. Title Design by Yoshitaka Amano.
FINAL FANTASY and VANA'DIEL are registered trademarks of Square Enix Co., Ltd. SQUARE ENIX, PLAYONLINE and the PlayOnline logo are trademarks of Square Enix Co., Ltd.
Comments and posts are property of their authors. All the rest, including video, articles, compiled game data, and sections, unless otherwise noted, are
©2002-2009 FFXIOnline.com: Dreams in Vana'diel. All rights reserved.

no new posts
Page generated in 0.55653 seconds with 24 queries