[AngryUndead]

Here.

8,000 Lebros Cavern Assault Points.

Thats what I'm working on when I hit 60, come hell or high water.

I just got a steal on a Woodsman's Ring last night and upgraded to an Assault Ring (You know, that Attack + 5) and I so cannot wait to go out to a party again...

[KoukiRyu]

I kinda did a loose experiment with this recently, as I just got 57 a couple days ago...and the way it seems to work is that SH will not make that big of a difference...I was partying in Wajaom Woodlands, beating the crap out of Lesser Colibris for stealing my food, earlier that day I had borrowed an SH from a friend of mine, and whoo...!? I'm still missing as much as I was with my Master's Gi >_>...wtf is going on? So anyway, he needs hs SH back to go level NIN so I send it back and I level and get 58, so throw on my AF, and my Spartan's...and I'm still doing the same hit/miss ratio, but probably more hits, I guess...was it just the one level I got? Or could it be that 5 acc for 7 mill(on midgardosormr) isn't worth it as much as everyone thought? >_>

[Aeolus]

What other gear were you wearing, you cant just base it on the acc from the SH alone. +10 isnt alot unless you boost it together with other +Acc equip.

[Tirrock]

Well, you also have to consider that in that one level you probably got 4 or 5 points of hand to hand skill also...

Double Post Edited:
For KoukiRyu it was +6 acc (scorp harness/master gi) vs +3 acc (spartan/AF1) and several levels of hand to hand skill. >_>a

[KoukiRyu]

Yea I understand...I'm just trying to make myself feel better about not having one >_> I don't think it makes that huge of a difference, but I know for a fact it helps, and as the price has dropped on my server I plan on getting one...just after I re-buy my Brown Belt and Kotes >_<
H2H levels helped me, and I also have Life Belt on...grr I just wish I had one lol

[Aeolus]

I spent my whole damn Thf career wanting one from lv57-71 and the only time I had one was when my mate wasnt lving Nin. Hes so damn rich he bought one for his brd theres absolutely no way Im going past 62 without getting one as Mnk xD

[Omni]

i dont understand the big fuss over sh. its only an OK improvment over af1 for mnk, heck its only an OK improvement for a lot of other jobs and their alternate body gears. like others have said, if you really really want to blow your gil on sh, go right ahead, no one is stopping you. but from a utility point of view, it isnt all what its cracked up to be.

as a nin, ive never had the need nor urge to get sh. never had acc problems never had evasion problems. for thfs, i think theres other pieces more important and more effective than sh. ranperre harness for tp gain? cotehardie for fuidama? ones free and ones millions of gil less. for monk, 7.8million gil is not worth 5 acc. you can take that gil and buy +1 str rings or +1 str earrings and STILL have gil left over. 5 acc is nothing when youre chomping down sushi and wearing atk gear. its still nothing when youre wearing acc gear and chomping down meat.

dont mean to come off angry or anything but ive heard so many times in leveling nin that sh is the end all piece yadda yadda... and to be honest, i just dont see it.

[Aeolus]

I just think its an awsome looking piece of gear. Sure you can get +1 str rings ect but I plan on getting all those as well. As for thf I managed fine without it I just ment I really wanted it cause I just really like it. I had Cotehardie for SaTa and Assault Jerkin for Tp gain, worked fine. I know its not end game equip but if youve got the cash, yea sure buy all the usefull stuff first, then you can get it.

[Jei]

hehe yea I used to want SH so bad back when I was still playing my first char :D
Oneday I say a JP shouting he's selling it for 200万 (2 million)
My Japanese was {too weak} back then so I thought it was 200k ^^
So I /tell to the JP and put 200,000gil in the trade box.... and the JP was like, wth!?

[KoukiRyu]

lol I used to think the same thing till I was corrected by my LS. XD
I've just decided that SH is going to be last on my priority of equips to get...many other things are important beforehand, and I'll just get one if I suddenly come into some money lol

[FRITOBANDITO]

hmm... have u guys seen the new arkan samue for mnk? if so do u think its a better or can be an alternative to the SH?

[Tirrock]

* Agility +4
* Attack +5
* Evasion +10
* Subtle Blow +3

It's better than scorpion harness/AF in two situations... When you want (barely) more evasion than a scorpion harness and don't need accuracy, or when you really don't want -20 ice resist from the harness.

I haven't had a situation on MNK where I'd just get rid of 5 - 10 accuracy on my body piece for 5 attack. If I can afford to lose that accuracy, I can probably afford to use hedgehog pie and get a larger attack bonus while keeping an acceptable accuracy level.

[Sephirothkun]

I'd go for SH and AF body for macro in (chakra)

[KoukiRyu]

Okay I'm curious, what do you guys think about Pahluwan Khazagand? I mentioned before on this post that I wouldn't be getting an SH, and now I feel it's completely obsolete in my shiny new Pahlu. >:D But, I really love this thing;
Comments for Pahluwan Khazagand: Set: Enhances "Subtle Blow" effect
Effects for Pahluwan Khazagand:
HP +20
Accuracy +10
Ranged Accuracy +10
Increases Rate of Critical Hits
HP Regeneration While Healing +2

I mean, the increased crits, plus my beautiful Destroyers, plus my newly obtained crit merits...I mean, what's not to love? I end up getting about +13%~ crits with all of that combined, meaning I pull hate all the time and I do awesome damage...but what do you guys think now? Pahlu or SH? And I know the giant level gap, 57-72 using AF, so I guess you could use SH to Pahlu, but all in all I think sticking with AF and going to Pahlu is a lot smarter, and saves you some gil too. :3

[Amovorite]

Personally, I think the Pahluwan Khazagand is a fantastic piece of gear. For massive destructive purposes, I intend to pair that body piece up with a Kawahori Kabuto, plus my Destroyers, and my maxed crit+ merits. Bringing the total to.... oh... 15% + whatever the Pahluwan body gear adds. Engine of destruction. Think I may be buying/crafting many blinding potions to offset using up the blind charges on the Kabuto though. I'd really like to see how that setup would work in various combat situations. Of course I'd have to be curebombed.... 'cause with maxed -enmity merits, I still seem to pull hate w/o much effort....