06-05-2007, 06:40 PM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 56 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 3 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 5,593 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 5,593 Donate | Good job for CoP? I really, REALLY want to get into Chains of Promathia since I have only completed one promyvion. I'm also going through a job crisis right now, not sure what to level. So Im mixing the two, and looking for a job that can be good to take through CoP. I planned on taking 1 job through, but Im willing to level up to 3. I do NOT want to do RNG or SMN. RNG is too expensvie plus I hate pulling. SMN...I love that job, but Im not gonna hire someone to fight the prime fights, nor do I want to do them at the moment.
So what's a good job to choose for CoP? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-05-2007, 06:46 PM | #2 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 1,589 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 76 Thanked 48x in 36 Posts Gil: 9,065 Bank: 1,428 Total Gil: 10,493 Donate | Re: Good job for CoP? anything that's not a THF.  -Baka Inu!
Nejiko - Mithra Current: [ 70 THF / 35 NIN ]
Basic Jobs: [ 70 THF / 20 MNK / 11 WHM / 18 BLM / 22WAR / 05 RDM]
Advance Jobs: [ 04 BST / 37 NIN / 02 SMN / 05RNG / 07 SAM / 07 PLD / 00 DRK / 31 BRD / 00 DRG]
Aht Jobs: [07 COR / 00 BLU / 00 PUP] | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-05-2007, 06:47 PM | #3 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 122 Style: Light - Version 5 Thanks: 12 Thanked 9x in 7 Posts Gil: 679 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 679 Donate | Re: Good job for CoP? ...why in the hell would you level a job that you could quite possibly hate just to reach an artificial standard created by other players?
Level whatever damned job you want. Make friends. Ask them to do the CoPs with you. Or find other people that haven't got the CoPs done, and try to form a static. You don't need a cookie-cutter build to beat the missions.
And if you don't want to hire someone to do the Prime fights, do the mini-avatar fights. There, problem with leveling SMN solved. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-05-2007, 07:41 PM | #4 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 56 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 3 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 5,593 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 5,593 Donate | Re: Good job for CoP? Well really, Im up for any job to level for it. I love all the jobs really, just can't decide on one. So this is a HUGE push for what my job will be.
And as for SMN, I hated the mini-avatar fights. Well not really, just Ifrit pissed me off to all hell. I'd rather do the primes (which I will, SMN will be my next job). Plus I want to be perfect on SMN, so I want fenrir/diabolos/carby mitts. Just something I promised myself. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-05-2007, 07:48 PM | #5 (permalink) | | factcheck.org Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,912 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1,707 Thanked 1,544x in 1,078 Posts Gil: 12,128 Bank: 577,882 Total Gil: 590,010 Donate | Re: Good job for CoP? WHM, BRD, or RDM. Always, always useful. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-06-2007, 08:04 AM | #6 (permalink) | | Digital Wizard Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 6,018 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 69 Thanked 465x in 306 Posts Gil: 3,024 Bank: 106,279 Total Gil: 109,303 Donate | Re: Good job for CoP? RDM and BLU are both flexible and powerful in Chains of Promathia (RDM don't really hit its stride until AFTER Promyvion-Holla/Dem/Mea, however).
SMN and WHM are MVPs in almost all Chains of Promathia missions that don't involve horrendously fast damage (Snoll Tzar, I'm looking at you).
BRD is good in nearly every fight except for Diabolos and the early Promyvions.
NIN and PLD are of course useful as tanks in virtually every battle.
With all that said, no job is good if you hate levelling it.  However, hopefully at least one of the above jobs appeals to you enough to merit spending some time on it to make your life easier in CoP.
Icemage | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-06-2007, 08:51 AM | #7 (permalink) | | Fan of Murphie Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Largo, FL Posts: 1,590 Style: Light - Version 5 Thanks: 101 Thanked 287x in 170 Posts Gil: 10,231 Bank: 55,801 Total Gil: 66,032 Donate | Re: Good job for CoP? Originally Posted by Icemage | | SMN and WHM are MVPs in almost all Chains of Promathia missions that don't involve horrendously fast damage (Snoll Tzar, I'm looking at you). | SMN isn't a good job for Snoll Tzar? I would have thought that with Astral Flow, it would be one of the better options. Lyonheart
lvl 75 WAR, 75 BST, 75 BLM, 71 NIN
Cooking 100.0+3+3, Culinarian's Signboard, Raw Fish Handling, Noodle Kneading, Patissier
Fishing 60
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Bonecrafting 100.0+3+3,
Leather 60+2, Woodworking 60, Alchemy 60
Smithing 60, Clothcraft 55, Goldsmithing 54.1, Cooking 11
Boneworker's Signboard, Bone Purification, Bone Ensorcellment, Filing, Lumberjack, Chainwork | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-06-2007, 05:30 PM | #8 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 56 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 3 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 5,593 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 5,593 Donate | Re: Good job for CoP? Ok thanks a bunch. I've heard many people say to level BLM, WAR, and BLU. I am *really* interested in BLU. So I might be leveling that. Though I have some more questions:
What sub will I mostly use for BLU?
What's a good job against Ouryu?
Whats a good setup with BLU for the promy's? I'm willing to level WAR/NIN for those, so thats not a big deal. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-06-2007, 07:23 PM | #9 (permalink) | | factcheck.org Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,912 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1,707 Thanked 1,544x in 1,078 Posts Gil: 12,128 Bank: 577,882 Total Gil: 590,010 Donate | Re: Good job for CoP? | Quote: | | I would have thought that with Astral Flow, it would be one of the better options. | I imagine it's because you don't have time to really use AF | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-07-2007, 07:31 AM | #10 (permalink) | | No Comment Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 246 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 4 Thanked 28x in 19 Posts Gil: 2,031 Bank: 6,048 Total Gil: 8,080 Donate | Re: Good job for CoP? Feba is right, in the BC you have a very short time to do damage and you would only have time to get 1 AF off, which is a good amount of damage, but is only a single spike.
RDM chainspell is pretty cool here.
Edit: Dwark blu is great in CoP... headbutt breaks the diabolos fight. For Ouryu, blm is best dd/sleeper. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-07-2007, 07:48 AM | #11 (permalink) | The BBQ Kitten Revolution FFXIWiki Team Join Date: May 2006 Location: Windurst Posts: 4,568 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 158 Thanked 1,263x in 704 Posts Gil: 35,508 Bank: 11 Total Gil: 35,519 Donate | Re: Good job for CoP? Really surprised people have problems with Ouryu. I've done him twice (1) I was a RDM/NIN Gravity kiting, dispelling/slepping him and using mistmelts while BLMs nuked Freeze and (2) I just had a perfectly balanced group (PLD, WAR, RNG, WHM, RDM, BLM).
Key to that BC is really the mistmelts so he stays grounded. So just farm up a fair bit for mistmelts and you're set. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-07-2007, 08:56 AM | #12 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 447 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 24 Thanked 40x in 31 Posts Gil: 655 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 655 Donate | Re: Good job for CoP? you can for the record, kill it without mistmelts, (we did this with a balanced group) but you'll want a team that's both comfortable with their jobs and experienced fighting wyrms - (yeah yeah, ouryu's a pussy cat comparatively. timing / tactics in the air/ recovery skills are what you want to carry over from the big boys)
for the record: I'd say blm as best choice for cop. early missions blm is great for damage and backup curing, and later missions all benefit from either AM, fast damage, or sleepga II. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-07-2007, 05:14 PM | #13 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 56 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 3 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 5,593 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 5,593 Donate | Re: Good job for CoP? Well, I tried to do BLU. It actually annoyed me just getting the spells, and I am waaaay too anxious for CoP. So now I'm doing BLM, which is a great job imo. Thanks a bunch for the help guys! | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:36 AM. | | |