09-18-2006, 03:20 AM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 419 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1 Thanked 10x in 6 Posts Gil: 4,715 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,715 Donate | Ouryu I was just wondering if his(her?) normal attacks are earth or physical based. Do they ignore defense and only check against resistance and magic defense?
Any answers would greatly help me choose gear for my 4-2 run. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-18-2006, 04:22 AM | #2 (permalink) | | red means NO Super Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 2,752 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 58 Thanked 156x in 93 Posts Gil: 21,970 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 21,970 Donate | Re: Ouryu Theres such a thing as a common thought that if you buff up/gear up your elemental defense, that it might help with not only ouryu but mobs in general, i for one do not believe that, the only thing that resembles elemental physical attacks is the en- effect some mobs have, and the spell aswell, and the special abilities.
Nevertheless, it would be wise to gear up with earth magic defense, he has stone spells that you would rather do without, if youre a tank, get both gear for physical damage and spell damage, and make macros for it, if you cant avoid getting hit by a stone spell, quickly change gear, all done. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-18-2006, 04:46 AM | #3 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 386 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 6 Thanked 8x in 8 Posts Gil: 1,386 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,386 Donate | Re: Ouryu I have read about Paladin gearing up with fire resistance against Tiamat and Bahamut v.2 and that they had really good results. The only thing about trying to gear up with Earth resistance for 4-2 is that you might not be able to find enough gear to make it effective.
I had to fight this wyrm 2 times for this mission. I think I just wore 'regular' tanking gear. Also I carried as many meds as I could hold. The first fight we lost when it used some kind of breath attack and killed me immediately. The second fight he chose not to do that, and we won pretty easily. I think my group was Pld, Drg, Blm, Smn, Whm, and Drk. We also farmed a bunch of mist melts (which is key in my opinion).
Good luck! | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-18-2006, 05:36 AM | #4 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 419 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1 Thanked 10x in 6 Posts Gil: 4,715 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,715 Donate | Re: Ouryu Originally Posted by Davitron3000 | | I have read about Paladin gearing up with fire resistance against Tiamat and Bahamut v.2 and that they had really good results. The only thing about trying to gear up with Earth resistance for 4-2 is that you might not be able to find enough gear to make it effective. | Well I saw this picture of a taru nin taking <50 damage hits from Tiamat thanks to his high fire resistance and I figured perhaps Ouryu is similar. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...h/img_0023.jpg
There is also Fairy Ring in Dynamis - Valkurm that I believe uses dark damage instead of physical damage. Its attacks ignore defense and go right through Invincible. Last edited by Maju : 09-18-2006 at 05:46 AM. Reason: Found the pic | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-18-2006, 06:14 AM | #5 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 386 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 6 Thanked 8x in 8 Posts Gil: 1,386 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,386 Donate | Re: Ouryu Yeah, I have read about that stuff. Be really interesting if you can make an Earth resist build and it work for you. The thing you will have a problem with is getting enough resist I think. The advantage someone has when fighting Tiamat is that there is no level cap, so they have access to any gear that their job can wear. For the Ouryu fight you will be limited to 50 cap so I would think you would be more limited. So the real question will be can you get your earth resist high enough with the gear available, and will doing so sacrifice other attributes that you need to tank with.
I have also read that you not only need to get your elemental resist high, but you need to have buffs on you at all times (like bar spells and songs).
Good luck! I have been interested in trying to make some elemental resist set ups, but I haven't done it yet. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-18-2006, 06:18 AM | #6 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 464 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2x in 2 Posts Gil: 457 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 457 Donate | Re: Ouryu Bar spells and elemental resist gear only effects the earth based spells/attack that Ouryu uses. That does not include his physical attacks. However, I am pretty certain that when Ouryu is flying, all of those attacks at that moment are earth based. Aside from barstone and bard carols (don't know if they are available at that level yet), gear increases in elemental resist are hard to come by at that level and probably not worth it. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-18-2006, 07:11 AM | #7 (permalink) | | Digital Wizard Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 5,972 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 69 Thanked 455x in 298 Posts Gil: 3,698 Bank: 53,049 Total Gil: 56,747 Donate | Re: Ouryu You need a lot of resistance to reduce elemental damage from HNMs like Tiamat since Tiamat is level 90++(varies).
With that said, I'm fairly sure Ouryu in the mission BC is much lower level, and will require less elemental resistance. I've fought him several times in both the mission and in the uncapped Ouryu Cometh BC and in both cases earth resistance was very useful against his elemental attacks.
I can confirm that his normal attack while flying is elemental - earth resistance will help you against it. In addition, he casts earth spells unless Silenced in both flying and non-flying forms.
What earth resistance won't save you from, though, is Ochre Blast, one of his AoE WS that he can use when flying. I'm fairly certain that attack is Fire based (similar to Tiamat's Inferno Blast).
Icemage | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-18-2006, 07:48 AM | #8 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 419 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1 Thanked 10x in 6 Posts Gil: 4,715 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,715 Donate | Re: Ouryu Thanks for the answers. I'm thinking of going with a standard defense set and perhaps bring with me some earth resistance gear for when he takes off. Having bar and carol would also be great. Garuda can also be used to tank Ouryu when he is flying. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-19-2006, 10:27 AM | #9 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 192 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 299 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 299 Donate | Re: Ouryu Why bother with resistance gear? Just blackmail/bribe/beg 4 black mages and a bard to drag you in and sleep nuke him to death. Its nearly failsafe. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-19-2006, 10:39 AM | #10 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 125 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2x in 2 Posts Gil: 2,825 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,825 Donate | Re: Ouryu Originally Posted by capitalistnihilist | | Why bother with resistance gear? Just blackmail/bribe/beg 4 black mages and a bard to drag you in and sleep nuke him to death. Its nearly failsafe. | That just sounds boring.
/em throws his two cents at Capitalistnihilist. "Oh, you ca'n't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're Mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be", said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here." Welcome to Alice in FFXI =P | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-19-2006, 10:42 AM | #11 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 296 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 8 Thanked 2x in 2 Posts Gil: 437 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 437 Donate | Re: Ouryu Originally Posted by Vair | That just sounds boring.
/em throws his two cents at Capitalistnihilist. | Aye. I love my fights challenging. I'm the type that goes through games at Lv1, or without using things like Sphere Grids and stuff...
My fights have to have a bit more pep in em. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:54 AM. | | |