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Genrou
06-24-2003, 10:01 PM
Now, I could've swore that Monks used Chakra instead of MP, but what for and how? So far, the only Chakra I know of their Active Ability which heals them, but is there another Chakra that's used a different way? Also, what do they use MP for? This might have been a bug, but earlier today, my friend's Monk had about 6 or 8 MP at one time then, during a fight, it just vanished. He didn't use an ability or anything. It simply dropped to 0. Now was this a bug, or was it used for something?

MAK
06-24-2003, 10:32 PM
from what i herd abour chakura is that it heals about 1/10 of your hp or something like that... and you can use it every 15 mins or something like that just look at the topic below that guy knows more...:sweat: and i dont think it uses tp.

Genrou
06-24-2003, 11:57 PM
Yeah, I know about that Ability and only Weapon Abilities use TP. I'm talking about Chakra like a form of energy used for certain things like Mages use MP for Magic. However, I recall hearing a long time ago that Monks use Chakra for something just like Mages use MP for spells.

InfamousJoe
06-25-2003, 06:43 AM
Maybe you mean Chi, or Ki..?

Keftenk
06-25-2003, 07:11 AM
yea, Gen I dont know what ya talking about...in all previous FF's Chakra has been an ability, not a form of energy. Ki and Chi are...but...Chakra has always retained itself as a healing ability in FF.

mm...Chakra is yoga btw...bleh (pukes)

DJplaeskool
06-25-2003, 03:15 PM
Chakra is a monk ability that allows instant regeneration of approximately 1/10 your total HP, and it also instantly recovers certain lesser status effects, such as poison and darkness.

Chakra in XI isn't nearly as pimp as it was in Tactics or the like...You get HP and only HP, and you can only use it once every 15 minutes...

excellent for clutch situations...
has saved me a number of times...

Kosh
06-25-2003, 04:56 PM
Maybe the person had a mage sub job. That would explain why he had MP. Maybe he than switched sub jobs and that was why he no longer had MP. Otherwise it was a glitch.

xphantomx
06-25-2003, 05:14 PM
chakra is a form of energy
i think its Indian or something, so its like chi/ki ... theyve all got different names for it in different cultures
the Japanese adopted chakra(in katakana of course) as chi

DJplaeskool
06-25-2003, 06:35 PM
The whole "non-MP users having MP" thing is caused by equipped items that grant additional MP...regardless, if you can't learn spells...MP is pointless...

MAK
06-25-2003, 09:38 PM
Woops i said tp..i ment MP ive been playing to much PSO....:sweat:

SiC
07-04-2003, 11:17 PM
Actually Chakura will recover your HP based on your VIT. It's VITx2, so if your VIT is 70, then you will recover 140 HP. Once you get your AF armour Chakura will be boosted to VITx3.

RemyZero
07-06-2003, 07:04 PM
The reason your friend had MP was most liekly from a food effect.

Ultimarenee
07-07-2003, 05:10 AM
k let me help u here ppl. Ki is the japanese word for energy which is sustained in your body....Chi is the chinese word for the same exact thing...NO Japanese ppl do not use the word chi > xphantomx chi and ki mean energy so stop trying to make it sound all different. Chi and ki are energies within just like mana is the energies from the universe/enviroment. (obviously u ppl need some lessons about chi and ki...bet u only heard ki from dragonball z games LOL) but neways chakura is a self healing technique...U flare up ur energy (like on dbz when going super saiyan or just powering up lol) then u have urself healed. I believe it goes by how much vitality u havex2....Chakra is not only used in yoga.It's used in almost every basic martial arts/aculpuncture/foreign exercise (say this becuz ppl have different beliefs and one major belief is in energy um in the eastern asia society..hence Crouching Tiger hidden dragon) class. chakra I beleive is pronounced the same in every single language too. So i hope this helps u ppl who obviously ain't have a clue to what ur were talking about.manna's a stupid word I just hate how it sounds, i prefer magic power LOL. if u ever played guiltygearXX u would notice that Jam had projectiles (aka beams) even though it said she had chi...beams are a custom with the word ki that's the only one way I can prove they're the same without going to deep into it!
China=chi
Japan=ki
America=energy

Alicia
07-07-2003, 11:49 AM
Meh that was a pain to read and had no real use to the thread. Chi, Ki and Energy are the same concept.

Anyways, Chakra is a fun skill and useful ^_^

Mithrael
07-07-2003, 12:07 PM
RemyZero hit the nail on the head. A Bird's Egg gives 6hp and 6mp to all character classes, regardless of it's usefulness. Could have been any number of other food items, but that's the one that pops into mind immediately.

Ultimarenee
07-07-2003, 12:56 PM
ah!just wanted to help the retards...lol i mean it wuld be stupid to go up to a japanese person and say..i feel ur chi, cause that's not the correct way to say energy..just like u wouldn't walk up to american's and say..how much is pan...u wuld say bbread..if uhave common sense that is.like a person might think u mean pans as in frying pans!

Kyoushu
07-13-2003, 07:19 AM
Calling someone who doesn't happen to study Japanese martial arts and energy in general a retard is pretty illogical, especially considering the way you type.

Anyway, this just strengthens my desire to become a monk.

Genrou
07-13-2003, 08:31 AM
Originally posted by Kyoushu
Calling someone who doesn't happen to study Japanese martial arts and energy in general a retard is pretty illogical, especially considering the way you type.

My thoughts exactly. When you insult someone's intelligence, make sure you use correct spelling, punctuation, and grammar unless you enjoy being hypocritical.

And on another note, chi/ki is not only energy within. Those who study and use chi/ki in the east believe it is everywhere. If you're wondering how I know, I'm a martial artists and have been studying martial arts for many years now; both internal and external arts. Also, Webster defines mana as "the power of the elemental forces of nature embodied in an object or person."

And, indeed, chakra is a term that originated in India. It refers to any one of the 7 centers in your body which store and produce energy (I believe they call their energy prana which is where I think the word mana came from). Each chakra is associated with a different system or organ (ie. nervous system, lungs, etc.). You meditate and open a chakra (or two, or three, etc.) and it's supposed to enhance or heal the systems or organs it's associated with. I forgot what's supposed to happen when all the chakras are opened or if it's ever been supposedly attained.

Anyway. Ultimarenee, everyone is ignorant to something so grow up and stop acting like everyone should know everything and insulting their intelligence. Especially when you replace "you" with "u" and "people" with "ppl."

lun4tic
07-13-2003, 10:38 AM
In Star Wars they call it The Force.

Use the Chakra Luke!

Xavius
07-21-2003, 06:06 PM
Monks are now scary since the changes. It used to be 15 minutes reuse time on Chakra and Square lowered it down to 5 minutes. So now I think monks will be a very nice class and could even solo into the higher levels if they plan their Chakra's right and watch their HP closely.

Ultimarenee
07-26-2003, 08:20 PM
for one the belief of chi is inside and mana is with out ok...I know what i say...thank you..and ease up..i'm a little girl ok..n_n and i like to insult ppl....but sorry u_u if i hurt ur feeling...I'm gonna act more like starfire....cause people do not and should not act like the way i did before!:o :mad: and when i insult people i'll use as manee dam mistAkes I WANT too!and i'm not a martial artist...well i am but that's not how i know it...I believe in the paranormal...and no i do not see dead people or in my case ppl! I LOVE YA GENROU *bows him a kiss*...and why can't everyone know just about everything...I do! (no not personal things...I'm not a mindreader -_- i wish i was!*:angel:
and also the force had nothing at al to do with chakra. U had the force mind trick which was telepathy
the force which was telekinesis
force lightning which is electro?kinesis...they had another name for this but i forgot!
um what else force push pull same telekinesis lift also.... ah they all are just fancy names for the kinetic paranorma!
well maybe some people believe chi exist in other things but i dunno why some ppl call it manna. cuz manna is magic so maybe some kids just make up stuff. hmmm *taps her chin!
HEY JOIN TARU FORCE...its the same as the taru army onlything we're not gonna be centere don that disgrace of a Ragnork ( i bet no one's gonna join) :( *cries*

Chaotixx0
08-30-2003, 12:16 PM
im not here to put anyone down or say that you're wrong. im here to tell you what i heard. i watched one of those Discovery Channel shows on kung-fu or soming and this guy used Chi for healing himself and others

he would "focus his energy" into his hands and then "release" it into the person's body and they would feel much better......so im pretty sure Chakra is the same as Chi/Ki/energy whatever you wanna call it. so im guessing that Chakra may be a form Chi thats used for healing.....

DJplaeskool
08-30-2003, 03:00 PM
according to eastern medicine

chi (ki) is universal energy...

chakra is a personal center of chi, which may be released, channeled and otherwise manipulated by concentration...

one body may contain several chakras, but all are connected in the same chi...

lun4tic
08-30-2003, 05:10 PM
Thanks for clearing that up!

At least I know what I'm talking about from now on. :D

No_lifer
09-03-2003, 09:06 AM
:thumbsup:



Yes, that's how it works.

Ultimarenee
09-17-2003, 02:49 PM
I see that poster a little 1 sided. I don't really care about the WTC/9-11 incident! I personally sorta enjoyed it. But back to the matters is. If ur a christian u don't believe in that stuff so why do u care what a chakra is.
P.s. there shulda been more death IMO!
Save your thooughts ok, i don't care what u say!

Youko
09-17-2003, 05:32 PM
We don't care what you say either.

Fadedsoul
09-18-2003, 01:18 PM
shut up. Nothing worse than a dumbass know-it-all Ult.

Thanks for the information on thread DJ.

Dawn
09-25-2003, 02:47 AM
Since people really wanted to know about it, I'll clarify.

Chi is pyschic energy generated by the human body then directed. It's not chi until it is directed. I have seen martial artists do amazing things with it. A friend of mine with a large beer gut used to say that is where he stored his chi. Kinda funny but he would punch at a balloon, stop an inch short and the baloon would still pop.

To understand Chi we must look back to the very beginnings of Oriental Medicine to Taoism (pronounced: dow-ism), which means The Way. Taoism is the most influential root of Oriental Medicine. The ancient medicine people or Taoist's main focus was to observe the ways of the natural laws governing the universe as a method to understand the unseen inner world of our physical body.

One of the philosophical foundations upon which their medical theories was built recognized that everything in the universe is composed of two complementary yet opposing energetic forces known as Yin (female) and Yang (male). Yin the female principle is associated with water and represents the earth. Yang the male principle is associated with fire and represents heaven. Yin and Yang - female with male uniting the water energy of earth with the fire energy of heaven are the two primary forces responsible for all of creation. Together this energetic life force of Yin and Yang is known as Chi, which means Energy. Einstein's famous equation concludes that energy forms matter and when matter disperses it coverts back to energy so every particle of existence is made of energy (Chi) and explains all movement, changes and phenomena in our universe.

These ancient people believed that the same natural laws of Yin and Yang governing the universe had to influence human beings. We were not considered a separate entity; we were viewed as a miniature universe subjected to the very same universal laws. If Chi was the creating force of all visible components then they believed it had to be a factor behind our existence as well. Therefore, from Yin and Yang came the Five Elements of the universe. These Five Elements - Water, Wood, Fire, Earth, and Metal give birth to all things in creation, including human beings.

The human body as a miniature universe houses 12 energetic channels or pathways wherein Chi flows. These channels are known as meridians and control both our gross and subtle anatomy. Our gross anatomy is the form that we can see, whereas most individuals cannot see the subtle anatomy. This subtle energetic body represents the whole of which we are -- our body, mind, emotions, and spirit. Unlike the veins that our blood flows through meridian pathways also travel throughout the entire body, but rather than fluid they deal more with energy and states of consciousness. Each meridian is associated with one of the Five Elements and connects to a Yin or Yang organ of the physical body, which link our states of consciousness.

It is said that Chi applies to the human body in 2 ways; inherit Chi and acquired Chi. Inherit Chi is the energy we receive from our parents at the time of conception. Acquired Chi is the energy accumulated by the quality of life we choose to lead, the food and air ingested. It is believed that the major cause of all disease stems from a blockage of Chi circulation. Individuals become ill when either they cannot absorb enough Chi or the circulation in their body has become blocked.

Human beings cannot sustain a high quality of life by food and breathing alone. It is important to have a strong flow of Chi energy, as the most nutritious food would be of no use if our inner constitution were weak. In order to absorb and integrate the external universal energy we must learn to integrate and strengthen the fundamental life force within. Chi healing is an ongoing process of cultivating and strengthening the Yin (female) and Yang (male) within our being. Good health is learning to live and be in balance with the all aspects of our internal world - the body, mind, emotions and spirit so that we may be in balance and good relationship with all aspects of our external world.

Chakra points are a bit different. There are seven Chakra Points on the human body.

The chakras and Kundalini Yoga (a system of meditation based on balancing the chakra points) came to be an integral part of yoga philosophy in the non-dual Tantric tradition, which arose in the 7th century and espoused the belief that the mind and the body are intrinsically linked. This tradition advised being in the world rather than separate or transcendent from it, like many other Hindu and Buddhist traditions.

Most commonly, it is taught that the human body contains seven major psychic centers, five situated along the spine and two found within the head. These centers are called chakras or padmas. Chakra means "wheel," and padma means "Lotus." Essentially, a chakra is a whirling vortex of energy at the point where the mind and it’s physical manifestations meet.

It is believed by many that the point where each chakra is located corresponds with the points in the body where psychosomatic illness most commonly manifests and that many physical symptoms or illnesses are the result of unbalanced charkas. A pain in a specific area can indicate a difficulty in the corresponding part of your life or identity controlled by that chakra energy which must be addressed or cleansed through meditation before the pain will cease. For example, a woman with consistent sore throats may not be expressing herself and her opinions when she feels compelled to out of fear or hesitation. That fear must be faced and resolved and then the sore throats (a physical manifestation of a blockage of your communication chakra) will stop. Chakra's may also be generally cleaned or cleared using meditation focusing on the chakra points, the movement of hands over the chakra points or by placing healing crystals over the chakra points.

Although different schools teach different numbers of Chakra points, seven is the most common number.

The Chakra Points
Chakra Number: One
Name: Base Chakra
Location: Base of the Spine
Color: Red
Element: Earth
Association: Connection with the Earth, Security, Prosperity, General Health

Chakra Number: Two
Name: Groin Chakra
Location: Lower Stomach and Sexual Organs
Color: Orange
Element: Water
Association: Emotions, Sexuality, Movement, Change, Grace

Chakra Number: Three
Name: Power Chakra
Location: Solar Plexus/Upper Stomach
Color: Yellow
Element: Fire
Association: Will, Energy, Strength

Chakra Number: Four
Name: Heart Chakra
Location: Chest
Color: Green
Element: Air
Association: Love, Identity, Unity, Integration

Chakra Number: Five
Name: Throat Chakra
Location: Throat
Color: Blue
Element: Sound
Association: Communication, Creativity, Expression

Chakra Number: Six
Name: Brow Chakra (often called the third eye)
Location: Forehead
Color: Indigo
Element: Light
Association: Sight, Psychic Ability

Chakra Number: Seven
Name: Crown Chakra
Location: Top of Head
Color: Violet
Element: Thought
Association: Thought, Universal identity, Wisdom

Hope this isn't too much info. But some people may actually enjoy it.

Dawn

Dawn
09-25-2003, 03:02 AM
<quote: If ur a christian u don't believe in that stuff so why do u care what a chakra is.>

Several aspects of this:

1) Yoga isn't a religion, it is philosophy. While it may have it's roots in other lands, it does not say anything at all against Christianity. We don't know entirely how the body works or acts. No matter what God you choose to believe in, we don't know exactly how the body and spirit are tied together. So... Chakra healing may be just as valid for Christians as any other religions.

2) ALL Christian seminaries teach other religions as well. For two reasons. A) There is wisdom to be found in most religions, regardless of your faith. B) By exploring what others believe and deciding for yourself what you believe, your own faith is made stronger.

When I was a kid, I was reading Johnathon Livingston Seagull at church during a break during a bible study week. This book really is about reincarnation. The Deacons in the church went ballistic. Asked me where I got such "trash". I got it from our preacher. It was a textbook for him when he was in the Seminary.

Light cannot enter a closed mind.

I worked as a paramedic on an ambulance for years. Ask any long term medic or ER doctor. There reaches a point where you KNOW someone is gone. When the lights may be on, but the house is empty. All the work in the world won't bring them back when you feel that emptiness.

What ties the spirit to the body? We don't know and there is no scientific documentation on this. One philosophy or belief has as much merit as any other, no matter what faith you follow.

I am not saying I believe in any of these philosophies. But they are interesting to examine and help shape my own beliefs.

PS. I was not at the 911 WTC trajedy. I WAS one of the medics pulling the corpses of children out of the Oklahoma City bombing.

This is not a place to flame people and so I will not state my true feelings. But I will say this. Someone who says they took pleasure out of that has no business telling Christians, or anyone, what they should believe.

Quote: For every infidel you show me who is not a christian, I'll show you a christian who is not a christian." (The court fool in Ivanhoe)

Tolerance, care, wisdom, and understanding may be found in ANY religion. Or it may be found missing among followers of any religion.

Anom
09-25-2003, 12:35 PM
Wow, all this drama from a question about something in a videogame...

Dawn, thanks for the Chinese/Indian Medicine info.

*caught myself manipulating my Shen Men point ^^*

Dawn
09-25-2003, 07:59 PM
<grin>

Nope folks, he's not talking dirty.

The Shen Men is an accupuncture point, and despite the anglicized version of the name being "Heavenly Gate" it's not a sexual reference.

The Shen Men point is mostly used to alleviate pain, apprehension, fear, anxiety, is often used in the treatment of addictions, and occasionally liver dysfunctions. It also has ties to the Spleen and Lungs.

<grins at Anom>

As far as how effective Accupuncture can be, I can't say for sure if it can do everything that practitioners claim. But I know it for sure can be used to suppress pain.

I watched an open-throat surgery to remove a cyst from the vocal chords of a woman. No anesthesia was used. She was consious during the whole thing and was chattering away like a magpie during the entire operation.

Impressed the heck out of me.

syxxtekk
10-14-2003, 02:42 PM
:eek:

I bow to the almighty knowlege of Dawn :handsdown

sarkiss
10-15-2003, 12:14 AM
Thanks for the info...i alrdy knew a brief amount of it tho lol sound how i dont study it and i know *shrugs*

But...sense where on Chakra Qs ....I need someone who has played EQ for this...Is Charka the same as Mend...i mean, Amount between uses..the amount of HP..ETC! i know they both Heal

Second...Does it use TP someone said it uses TP...

Almorit (Monk dude on FF9) made the game cheap with CHakra on others...Wow Vivi you have a personal mana battery keep casting your ass off =D ...(( and yes casting flare on all targets for 6000 dmg compared to 1 hit of 5000 isd a better thing to do -_^)


Also Dawn can you suggest some more books, for learning all about this stuff...even things to help open minded ness... if that makes sense...i love the idea and concept of all of this Thanks

Idealist
10-15-2003, 08:31 AM
Chakra is very similar to EQ's mend. 5 minutes between uses, heals a significant amount of HP. It doesn't use TP, and it's self only.

sarkiss
10-15-2003, 11:11 AM
Thanks..=D go Chakra

Cat
10-20-2003, 02:48 AM
i got tired of reading some of hte posts so if this has already been mentioned sorry for redundancy but... Charkra heals an amount determined by your monk's vitality stat. Also, items you equip may give you some MP however monks have no abilaties that require MP to activate

CodiX
11-15-2003, 10:40 PM
Some of you people make me not want to play this game anymore.

Dear lord, just use the damned skill, who cares what "Chakra" is?

I don't.

lun4tic
11-17-2003, 04:13 PM
And I'm sure your post is just as useless as theirs and just as much uncared for! What a world we live in, huh? One useless post is put on the spot by another useless post, and then that one by another.

I find the word chakra sounds like a seasoning, so it's history isn't important to me. As long as it heals its good for me.

Yoko
11-28-2003, 12:31 PM
huh i only checked the 1st and 3rd page so im not sure if its been answered, but 2 thinga bout chakra:

1- The amount of hp gained is 2X ur VITality

2- Its usable once every 5 minutes, and doesnt require any kind of mp/tp/hp/whatsoever

Think thats pretty clear lol.

Oh and its lvl 35 if anyone didnt know...

bside
11-28-2003, 08:29 PM
in addition to recovering some hp, chakra heals poison and blind. when u get an af armor (body), it also heals paralysis. having af armor also increases the hp recovered to vit*3.