View Full Version : any1 got beta kit for ps2??
My_zanarkand
06-05-2003, 11:10 PM
hi all
hopefully, this is the right forum to post the very post i'm about to post ;). Last time I posted I got a visit from "Micheal Jackson", that's kinda freaked me out !! hehe
anyways, just wondering if any1 received their beta kit for ps2. It's June the 6th almost.. and haven't got my beta yet... AHHHH can't take this anymore eheh
Thanks in advance~
My_zanarkand~
blizzard4
06-05-2003, 11:26 PM
i highly dought if they have even started being shipped yet.
Grand Lethal
06-06-2003, 06:10 AM
Hard to say when they will ship, but they are recalling the closed beta kits... and they have sent out e-mails to people that sent P.O. Box addresses... so I'd guess they'll start shipping on Monday... but who knows for sure. All I know is I got in, and soon I'll have my kit! Thats all that matters.
Iserion
06-06-2003, 09:38 AM
Dont bother waiting.. the beta starts in july..
Greetings and Congratulations!
Yadda yadda yadda blah blah blah --- The Public Beta Test will begin in
July. In
the coming weeks, a Beta Test kit with detailed instructions will be
mailed
to the address you provided in your application.blah blah blah lalalala
See you online !
PlayOnline Information Center
Shadowed
06-06-2003, 09:47 AM
Uhhh, no, THIS is the letter. This is the PS2 version.
Greetings and Congratulations!
This letter is to notify you that you've been chosen as a confirmed Beta
Tester to test PlayOnline(TM), FINAL FANTASY(R)XI and Tetra Master(TM) on
the PlayStation(R)2 computer entertainment system. The Public Beta Test will
begin in June. A Beta Test kit including the Internal Hard Disk Drive (40GB)
(for PlayStation(R)2) will be mailed to the address you've provided in the
coming weeks with detailed instructions.
Important - Beta Testers
The HDD shipped for use in the public beta test for PlayOnline, FINAL
FANTASY XI and Tetra Master is only compatible for use with the PlayOnline,
FINAL FANTASY XI and Tetra Master beta test software. Use or attempted use
with any other software or use outside of the beta test may harm or
interfere with the operation of your PlayStation(R)2 system or other
devices.
Upon conclusion of the Beta Test, Sony Computer Entertainment America
requires you to return the beta test HDD in the original beta kit box using
the return-shipping label enclosed in your kit.
Once Sony Computer Entertainment America receives the beta test HDD unit and
in appreciation for your participation in the Beta Test, SCEA will send you
a new consumer HDD unit, free of charge.
Please reference the Beta Test Handbook for details (inside your Beta Test
Kit). If you have any questions, please reply to this email address and
include your full name in your letter.
Thank you for your continued interest and support of PlayOnline.
See you online,
PlayOnline Information Center Team
Iserion
06-06-2003, 09:50 AM
AWWWWWWW GAY EITHER MINE STARTS LATE OR THERES A TYPO :(
Greetings and Congratulations!
This letter is to notify you that you have been selected as a Beta
Tester
for the beta versions of the PlayOnline(TM) Viewer, FINAL FANTASY(R)XI,
and
Tetra Master(TM) for Windows(R). The Public Beta Test will begin in
July. In
the coming weeks, a Beta Test kit with detailed instructions will be
mailed
to the address you provided in your application. Please reference the
Beta
Test Handbook in the kit for these instructions.
If you have any questions, please reply to this email address with your
full
name at the top of your reply.
Thank you for your continued interest and support of PlayOnline.
See you online !
PlayOnline Information Center
its all a conspiracy!
Tidus4444
06-06-2003, 10:00 AM
PS2 starts in June. PC starts in July.
There's no mistake in both e-mails....its only that Iserion's is the PC beta...and it does start only in july.....man cant wait to get my PS2 beta kit....
makkura
06-06-2003, 02:23 PM
free hdd !
man what a sweet deal ! ;)
Shadowed
06-06-2003, 02:27 PM
Hey, I've just thought of something about the free HDD...
When the game comes out and you send your beta HDD back, YOU will wait to play the game! Hahahaha...
Ok, so maybe you send them back in just before it comes out, but still.
Meinrad
06-06-2003, 05:54 PM
Well, what they should do is because of these "special circumstances" where we each get a HDD, i would hope that the end beta a few days before the real version releases. That way we have time to get our consumer HDD in and not have to wait. I mean we ARE the elite players of FFXI, the beta testers, so we really shouldn't have to wait. Maybe i sounded a little arrogant there but that's how i feel.
DarkWill
06-06-2003, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by Meinrad
I mean we ARE the elite players of FFXI, the beta testers, so we really shouldn't have to wait. Maybe i sounded a little arrogant there but that's how i feel.
You dont seem you are arrogant.I mean every player here ARE elite players.So plz be more respectful of other players.
Pai Pai Master
06-06-2003, 06:26 PM
actually, it's the importers who are the true elite players. :p you guys are gonna be playin' on something that'll prolly have lotsa bugs at first :biggrin:
DeathMoJo
06-06-2003, 11:21 PM
my guess is that the beta will end a month or two before the game comes out. This is so they can iron out the final bugs and add in any new content. So we should be able to have our beta HDD in and get our consumer HDD before the game comes out. Also i wouldn't mind waiting because i am getting a FREE HDD that would probably cost $50 or more.
Maybe Pai Pai but we'll be the ones makin it better for all of the ppl here when it gets out.....u should be thankin us XD!!! Also....the game probably wont be that buggy....we most likely will only test connectivity and the bit of translation that should be modified....
Its the same game as the importer's that we'll be playin...there wont be any bugs concerning the "game" itself...
(oh and btw....we're all elite gamers like Darkwill said...its just a matter of probability for getting into beta....and a matter of money to import it. Stop with that Bs already...)
clyde
06-07-2003, 08:25 AM
raaaaaaaarrrr
Tsikuro
06-07-2003, 09:08 AM
EQoA is fun as hell again,i can't get enough of it...!
Meinrad
06-07-2003, 09:50 AM
"You dont seem you are arrogant.I mean every player here ARE elite players.So plz be more respectful of other players."
Ya sorry about that but we are the ones were picked for the beta and I guess im just a little overexcited and forgot my manners. We are all equally "elite". And hats off to all those who imported becuase they went through extremes just to play the game (cost, time, foreign language usage, etc.). Again we are all equal players and sorry if I offended anyone.
(did i do the quote thing right? im not sure...)
Meinrad
06-07-2003, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by Meinrad
(did i do the quote thing right? im not sure...)
Oh i get it now...lol. Sorry for wasting a post.
CloudFFVII
06-07-2003, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by Shadowed
Hey, I've just thought of something about the free HDD...
When the game comes out and you send your beta HDD back, YOU will wait to play the game! Hahahaha...
Ok, so maybe you send them back in just before it comes out, but still.
Some will I wont, I am going to ghost the HD before I sent it back, I have a nice HDD just WAITING to go into my PS2, this way i dont have to lose anything I just need to see the connections and as to wether or not I can use the firewire ports on the front of my PS2 or not. I will be damned if I lose all my saved games as to my understanding the use of memory cards goes bye bye once we get the HD.
4nik8tor
06-07-2003, 01:19 PM
you just go ahead and do that. moron.
now im wondering... ok, the US version of FFXI is going to be released 3 months after the PC along with the HDD, so are they going to wait to send the HDD until the PS2 version comes out? or, are they going to send it before the PC comes out? and if they do, what would be the point seeing as we wont be able to use it till Q1 2004. unless something happened and they are releasing the PS2 version early or the PC late, I see a problem.
CloudFFVII
06-07-2003, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by 4nik8tor
you just go ahead and do that. moron.
If I can make my PS2 system run faster and more efficient how does that make me a "moron" If anything that makes perfect sense as I wont have to rely on waiting for Sony/Square to ship the units. Considering I have the equipment for this lying around it means that it will cost me... hmm wow NOTHING! before you sit here and ridicule someone why dont you do the intelligent thing and research. More and more people mod there equipment legally, and it can tend to run far more efficiently then the standard equipment sent from the corp companies. I guess then again someone like you who cannot grasp the simple comprehension of such an easy cheap modification would be quick to judge and insult.
this is to zero.
i think your looking at the whole thing backwords.
the pc version is comming first because it is already finished.
The PS2 version is also compleated, but sony has said that they will release the HDD in Q1 2004. both the PC and PS2 versions were set to be released in early november. But because of sonys delay, Square-Enix was forced to wait. Thats why its comming later.
And to all who say it will be buggy, should remember that there was already a beta in japan. that means all the bugs are gone. the only reason there is a north amr. beta is to test out the translations and ISP acomidations. they started this a little in E3. they also have to test out the switch of the servers. because the moved all the servers to a new providor.
this is to zero.
i think your looking at the whole thing backwords.
the pc version is comming first because it is already finished.
The PS2 version is also compleated, but sony has said that they will release the HDD in Q1 2004. both the PC and PS2 versions were set to be released in early november. But because of sonys delay, Square-Enix was forced to wait. Thats why its comming later.
And to all who say it will be buggy, should remember that there was already a beta in japan. that means all the bugs are gone. the only reason there is a north amr. beta is to test out the translations and ISP acomidations. they started this a little in E3. they also have to test out the switch of the servers. because the moved all the servers to a new providor.
this is to zero.
i think your looking at the whole thing backwords.
the pc version is comming first because it is already finished.
The PS2 version is also compleated, but sony has said that they will release the HDD in Q1 2004. both the PC and PS2 versions were set to be released in early november. But because of sonys delay, Square-Enix was forced to wait. Thats why its comming later.
And to all who say it will be buggy, should remember that there was already a beta in japan. that means all the bugs are gone. the only reason there is a north amr. beta is to test out the translations and ISP acomidations. they started this a little in E3. they also have to test out the switch of the servers. because the moved all the servers to a new providor.
this is to zero.
i think your looking at the whole thing backwords.
the pc version is comming first because it is already finished.
The PS2 version is also compleated, but sony has said that they will release the HDD in Q1 2004. both the PC and PS2 versions were set to be released in early november. But because of sonys delay, Square-Enix was forced to wait. Thats why its comming later.
And to all who say it will be buggy, should remember that there was already a beta in japan. that means all the bugs are gone. the only reason there is a north amr. beta is to test out the translations and ISP acomidations. they started this a little in E3. they also have to test out the switch of the servers. because the moved all the servers to a new providor.
Originally posted by avi
this is to zero.
i think your looking at the whole thing backwords.
the pc version is comming first because it is already finished.
The PS2 version is also compleated, but sony has said that they will release the HDD in Q1 2004. both the PC and PS2 versions were set to be released in early november. But because of sonys delay, Square-Enix was forced to wait. Thats why its comming later.
And to all who say it will be buggy, should remember that there was already a beta in japan. that means all the bugs are gone. the only reason there is a north amr. beta is to test out the translations and ISP acomidations. they started this a little in E3. they also have to test out the switch of the servers. because the moved all the servers to a new providor.
no, I knew that part, what I meant was are we going to get the HDD early and still have to wait for the official PS2 FFXI release or are they going to sell us the PS2 version early since we'll have our HDDs? so: will we still have to wait till Q1 2004 to play FFXI on PS2?
Originally posted by avi
this is to zero.
i think your looking at the whole thing backwords.
the pc version is comming first because it is already finished.
The PS2 version is also compleated, but sony has said that they will release the HDD in Q1 2004. both the PC and PS2 versions were set to be released in early november. But because of sonys delay, Square-Enix was forced to wait. Thats why its comming later.
And to all who say it will be buggy, should remember that there was already a beta in japan. that means all the bugs are gone. the only reason there is a north amr. beta is to test out the translations and ISP acomidations. they started this a little in E3. they also have to test out the switch of the servers. because the moved all the servers to a new providor.
no, I knew that part, what I meant was are we going to get the HDD early and still have to wait for the official PS2 FFXI release or are they going to sell us the PS2 version early since we'll have our HDDs? so: will we still have to wait till Q1 2004 to play FFXI on PS2?
Originally posted by avi
this is to zero.
i think your looking at the whole thing backwords.
the pc version is comming first because it is already finished.
The PS2 version is also compleated, but sony has said that they will release the HDD in Q1 2004. both the PC and PS2 versions were set to be released in early november. But because of sonys delay, Square-Enix was forced to wait. Thats why its comming later.
And to all who say it will be buggy, should remember that there was already a beta in japan. that means all the bugs are gone. the only reason there is a north amr. beta is to test out the translations and ISP acomidations. they started this a little in E3. they also have to test out the switch of the servers. because the moved all the servers to a new providor.
no, I knew that part, what I meant was are we going to get the HDD early and still have to wait for the official PS2 FFXI release or are they going to sell us the PS2 version early since we'll have our HDDs? so: will we still have to wait till Q1 2004 to play FFXI on PS2?
Originally posted by avi
this is to zero.
i think your looking at the whole thing backwords.
the pc version is comming first because it is already finished.
The PS2 version is also compleated, but sony has said that they will release the HDD in Q1 2004. both the PC and PS2 versions were set to be released in early november. But because of sonys delay, Square-Enix was forced to wait. Thats why its comming later.
And to all who say it will be buggy, should remember that there was already a beta in japan. that means all the bugs are gone. the only reason there is a north amr. beta is to test out the translations and ISP acomidations. they started this a little in E3. they also have to test out the switch of the servers. because the moved all the servers to a new providor.
no, I knew that part, what I meant was are we going to get the HDD early and still have to wait for the official PS2 FFXI release or are they going to sell us the PS2 version early since we'll have our HDDs? so: will we still have to wait till Q1 2004 to play FFXI on PS2?
kenshi
06-07-2003, 11:03 PM
don't quote me on this. i do not have a source at all. but i think the beta kits for PS2 will ship monday. Square Enix USA offices are located in Los Angeles. if the kits ship from there the zip is 90045 UPS Ground Maps (http://www.ups.com/maps?loc=en_US) I live in Clovis, Ca Which is in Central area of Cali. It isn't on the map but the County it is apart of is, Fresno. n e wayz if it shipped monday i would have it by End of Day Tuesday.
also there is this to figure out your actual transit time. Time traveled (http://wwwapps.ups.com/servlet/WWDTServlet?loc=en_US)
Put in Los Angeles and zip 90045 and the date as the 9th and your info. make sure you check the yes to residential and no to documents. then put in 5 for lbs. (rough estimate I don't think it will wiegh much more then this.)
and it will tell you when you should recieve it. if they ship them Monday the 9th.
kenshi
06-07-2003, 11:03 PM
don't quote me on this. i do not have a source at all. but i think the beta kits for PS2 will ship monday. Square Enix USA offices are located in Los Angeles. if the kits ship from there the zip is 90045 UPS Ground Maps (http://www.ups.com/maps?loc=en_US) I live in Clovis, Ca Which is in Central area of Cali. It isn't on the map but the County it is apart of is, Fresno. n e wayz if it shipped monday i would have it by End of Day Tuesday.
also there is this to figure out your actual transit time. Time traveled (http://wwwapps.ups.com/servlet/WWDTServlet?loc=en_US)
Put in Los Angeles and zip 90045 and the date as the 9th and your info. make sure you check the yes to residential and no to documents. then put in 5 for lbs. (rough estimate I don't think it will wiegh much more then this.)
and it will tell you when you should recieve it. if they ship them Monday the 9th.
kenshi
06-07-2003, 11:03 PM
don't quote me on this. i do not have a source at all. but i think the beta kits for PS2 will ship monday. Square Enix USA offices are located in Los Angeles. if the kits ship from there the zip is 90045 UPS Ground Maps (http://www.ups.com/maps?loc=en_US) I live in Clovis, Ca Which is in Central area of Cali. It isn't on the map but the County it is apart of is, Fresno. n e wayz if it shipped monday i would have it by End of Day Tuesday.
also there is this to figure out your actual transit time. Time traveled (http://wwwapps.ups.com/servlet/WWDTServlet?loc=en_US)
Put in Los Angeles and zip 90045 and the date as the 9th and your info. make sure you check the yes to residential and no to documents. then put in 5 for lbs. (rough estimate I don't think it will wiegh much more then this.)
and it will tell you when you should recieve it. if they ship them Monday the 9th.
kenshi
06-07-2003, 11:03 PM
don't quote me on this. i do not have a source at all. but i think the beta kits for PS2 will ship monday. Square Enix USA offices are located in Los Angeles. if the kits ship from there the zip is 90045 UPS Ground Maps (http://www.ups.com/maps?loc=en_US) I live in Clovis, Ca Which is in Central area of Cali. It isn't on the map but the County it is apart of is, Fresno. n e wayz if it shipped monday i would have it by End of Day Tuesday.
also there is this to figure out your actual transit time. Time traveled (http://wwwapps.ups.com/servlet/WWDTServlet?loc=en_US)
Put in Los Angeles and zip 90045 and the date as the 9th and your info. make sure you check the yes to residential and no to documents. then put in 5 for lbs. (rough estimate I don't think it will wiegh much more then this.)
and it will tell you when you should recieve it. if they ship them Monday the 9th.
yinpalm
06-07-2003, 11:44 PM
well i think they are gonna have some sell you the game deal, because from announcements the game will be packaged with the hdd, hence even if you got a free hdd you would have to buy the package. Only solution is sell you the game seperately
yinpalm
06-07-2003, 11:44 PM
well i think they are gonna have some sell you the game deal, because from announcements the game will be packaged with the hdd, hence even if you got a free hdd you would have to buy the package. Only solution is sell you the game seperately
yinpalm
06-07-2003, 11:44 PM
well i think they are gonna have some sell you the game deal, because from announcements the game will be packaged with the hdd, hence even if you got a free hdd you would have to buy the package. Only solution is sell you the game seperately
yinpalm
06-07-2003, 11:44 PM
well i think they are gonna have some sell you the game deal, because from announcements the game will be packaged with the hdd, hence even if you got a free hdd you would have to buy the package. Only solution is sell you the game seperately
4nik8tor
06-08-2003, 01:21 AM
Originally posted by CloudFFVII
If I can make my PS2 system run faster and more efficient how does that make me a "moron" If anything that makes perfect sense as I wont have to rely on waiting for Sony/Square to ship the units. Considering I have the equipment for this lying around it means that it will cost me... hmm wow NOTHING! before you sit here and ridicule someone why dont you do the intelligent thing and research. More and more people mod there equipment legally, and it can tend to run far more efficiently then the standard equipment sent from the corp companies. I guess then again someone like you who cannot grasp the simple comprehension of such an easy cheap modification would be quick to judge and insult.
in your original post you didnt mention anything about 'modding' shit. you said you were gonna copy the hd before you sent it back, because you werent gonna lose all that hard work.
which is fucking retarded.
go ahead and change your plans, your original post still makes you look like a fucking retard.
4nik8tor
06-08-2003, 01:21 AM
Originally posted by CloudFFVII
If I can make my PS2 system run faster and more efficient how does that make me a "moron" If anything that makes perfect sense as I wont have to rely on waiting for Sony/Square to ship the units. Considering I have the equipment for this lying around it means that it will cost me... hmm wow NOTHING! before you sit here and ridicule someone why dont you do the intelligent thing and research. More and more people mod there equipment legally, and it can tend to run far more efficiently then the standard equipment sent from the corp companies. I guess then again someone like you who cannot grasp the simple comprehension of such an easy cheap modification would be quick to judge and insult.
in your original post you didnt mention anything about 'modding' shit. you said you were gonna copy the hd before you sent it back, because you werent gonna lose all that hard work.
which is fucking retarded.
go ahead and change your plans, your original post still makes you look like a fucking retard.
4nik8tor
06-08-2003, 01:21 AM
Originally posted by CloudFFVII
If I can make my PS2 system run faster and more efficient how does that make me a "moron" If anything that makes perfect sense as I wont have to rely on waiting for Sony/Square to ship the units. Considering I have the equipment for this lying around it means that it will cost me... hmm wow NOTHING! before you sit here and ridicule someone why dont you do the intelligent thing and research. More and more people mod there equipment legally, and it can tend to run far more efficiently then the standard equipment sent from the corp companies. I guess then again someone like you who cannot grasp the simple comprehension of such an easy cheap modification would be quick to judge and insult.
in your original post you didnt mention anything about 'modding' shit. you said you were gonna copy the hd before you sent it back, because you werent gonna lose all that hard work.
which is fucking retarded.
go ahead and change your plans, your original post still makes you look like a fucking retard.
4nik8tor
06-08-2003, 01:21 AM
Originally posted by CloudFFVII
If I can make my PS2 system run faster and more efficient how does that make me a "moron" If anything that makes perfect sense as I wont have to rely on waiting for Sony/Square to ship the units. Considering I have the equipment for this lying around it means that it will cost me... hmm wow NOTHING! before you sit here and ridicule someone why dont you do the intelligent thing and research. More and more people mod there equipment legally, and it can tend to run far more efficiently then the standard equipment sent from the corp companies. I guess then again someone like you who cannot grasp the simple comprehension of such an easy cheap modification would be quick to judge and insult.
in your original post you didnt mention anything about 'modding' shit. you said you were gonna copy the hd before you sent it back, because you werent gonna lose all that hard work.
which is fucking retarded.
go ahead and change your plans, your original post still makes you look like a fucking retard.
clyde
06-08-2003, 02:23 AM
You kno wut i smell, smell the air guys, u kno wut i smell............................HATE!:mad: . Nik let cloud do wutever he wants its his ps2 afterall rite if he knows a way to copy his hd on to another one by all means let him do it rite:spin:
clyde
06-08-2003, 02:23 AM
You kno wut i smell, smell the air guys, u kno wut i smell............................HATE!:mad: . Nik let cloud do wutever he wants its his ps2 afterall rite if he knows a way to copy his hd on to another one by all means let him do it rite:spin:
clyde
06-08-2003, 02:23 AM
You kno wut i smell, smell the air guys, u kno wut i smell............................HATE!:mad: . Nik let cloud do wutever he wants its his ps2 afterall rite if he knows a way to copy his hd on to another one by all means let him do it rite:spin:
clyde
06-08-2003, 02:23 AM
You kno wut i smell, smell the air guys, u kno wut i smell............................HATE!:mad: . Nik let cloud do wutever he wants its his ps2 afterall rite if he knows a way to copy his hd on to another one by all means let him do it rite:spin:
vissione
06-08-2003, 02:29 AM
CloudFFVII... you're going to lose your hard work no matter what.
Yes, you CAN use your own HDD... but that doesn't mean you can play when you feel like it after the Beta ends.
If "all your hard work" means your character, you'll lose it because the character information is serverside, not clientside. Even if you were to keep a copy of the Beta software installed on an alternate HDD, won't mean you can access the same character you had, much less the gameworld.
Beta software is most probably specialized for a specific test server apart from the retail gameworld. I really doubt they're shipping completed cross-platform, cross-continental versions of the game. Your account is no longer functional after the Beta ends, and there's no way to reactivate it. It's free... designed that way... so just adding your credit card number won't boot it up and save you the wait for your new HDD.
Instead of doing what you had planned, just buy the game when it's out, and use your own HDD till the official one ships. Make sure you can fasten the HDD in place though... I suggest putting something small like a custom cut-out cardboard stand the size of the HDD Bay so it doesn't move. Once you get your retail one sent from Sony, reinstall the game on your new HDD and start again your character from wherever you left off. You don't need the cardboard peice or whatever else you can think off to fasten the drive in place... the retail one comes with side rails... just screw the HDD in and it'll never budge.
By using another HDD besides the retail one isn't "modding" because you're not modifying anything. All you're doing is using third-party stuff...
Buying retail HDD: Same as buying an official controller
Buying any HDD: Same as buying a third-party controller
vissione
06-08-2003, 02:29 AM
CloudFFVII... you're going to lose your hard work no matter what.
Yes, you CAN use your own HDD... but that doesn't mean you can play when you feel like it after the Beta ends.
If "all your hard work" means your character, you'll lose it because the character information is serverside, not clientside. Even if you were to keep a copy of the Beta software installed on an alternate HDD, won't mean you can access the same character you had, much less the gameworld.
Beta software is most probably specialized for a specific test server apart from the retail gameworld. I really doubt they're shipping completed cross-platform, cross-continental versions of the game. Your account is no longer functional after the Beta ends, and there's no way to reactivate it. It's free... designed that way... so just adding your credit card number won't boot it up and save you the wait for your new HDD.
Instead of doing what you had planned, just buy the game when it's out, and use your own HDD till the official one ships. Make sure you can fasten the HDD in place though... I suggest putting something small like a custom cut-out cardboard stand the size of the HDD Bay so it doesn't move. Once you get your retail one sent from Sony, reinstall the game on your new HDD and start again your character from wherever you left off. You don't need the cardboard peice or whatever else you can think off to fasten the drive in place... the retail one comes with side rails... just screw the HDD in and it'll never budge.
By using another HDD besides the retail one isn't "modding" because you're not modifying anything. All you're doing is using third-party stuff...
Buying retail HDD: Same as buying an official controller
Buying any HDD: Same as buying a third-party controller
vissione
06-08-2003, 02:29 AM
CloudFFVII... you're going to lose your hard work no matter what.
Yes, you CAN use your own HDD... but that doesn't mean you can play when you feel like it after the Beta ends.
If "all your hard work" means your character, you'll lose it because the character information is serverside, not clientside. Even if you were to keep a copy of the Beta software installed on an alternate HDD, won't mean you can access the same character you had, much less the gameworld.
Beta software is most probably specialized for a specific test server apart from the retail gameworld. I really doubt they're shipping completed cross-platform, cross-continental versions of the game. Your account is no longer functional after the Beta ends, and there's no way to reactivate it. It's free... designed that way... so just adding your credit card number won't boot it up and save you the wait for your new HDD.
Instead of doing what you had planned, just buy the game when it's out, and use your own HDD till the official one ships. Make sure you can fasten the HDD in place though... I suggest putting something small like a custom cut-out cardboard stand the size of the HDD Bay so it doesn't move. Once you get your retail one sent from Sony, reinstall the game on your new HDD and start again your character from wherever you left off. You don't need the cardboard peice or whatever else you can think off to fasten the drive in place... the retail one comes with side rails... just screw the HDD in and it'll never budge.
By using another HDD besides the retail one isn't "modding" because you're not modifying anything. All you're doing is using third-party stuff...
Buying retail HDD: Same as buying an official controller
Buying any HDD: Same as buying a third-party controller
vissione
06-08-2003, 02:29 AM
CloudFFVII... you're going to lose your hard work no matter what.
Yes, you CAN use your own HDD... but that doesn't mean you can play when you feel like it after the Beta ends.
If "all your hard work" means your character, you'll lose it because the character information is serverside, not clientside. Even if you were to keep a copy of the Beta software installed on an alternate HDD, won't mean you can access the same character you had, much less the gameworld.
Beta software is most probably specialized for a specific test server apart from the retail gameworld. I really doubt they're shipping completed cross-platform, cross-continental versions of the game. Your account is no longer functional after the Beta ends, and there's no way to reactivate it. It's free... designed that way... so just adding your credit card number won't boot it up and save you the wait for your new HDD.
Instead of doing what you had planned, just buy the game when it's out, and use your own HDD till the official one ships. Make sure you can fasten the HDD in place though... I suggest putting something small like a custom cut-out cardboard stand the size of the HDD Bay so it doesn't move. Once you get your retail one sent from Sony, reinstall the game on your new HDD and start again your character from wherever you left off. You don't need the cardboard peice or whatever else you can think off to fasten the drive in place... the retail one comes with side rails... just screw the HDD in and it'll never budge.
By using another HDD besides the retail one isn't "modding" because you're not modifying anything. All you're doing is using third-party stuff...
Buying retail HDD: Same as buying an official controller
Buying any HDD: Same as buying a third-party controller
all keeping the info on the HDD would do is let you have all the game data stored on your HDD. it wouldnt save your character and it wouldnt allow you to play the game. and no, a normal computer HDD dosent work. Sony installed some kind of recognition system that a HDD must have in order to save and use data with a PS2.
all keeping the info on the HDD would do is let you have all the game data stored on your HDD. it wouldnt save your character and it wouldnt allow you to play the game. and no, a normal computer HDD dosent work. Sony installed some kind of recognition system that a HDD must have in order to save and use data with a PS2.
all keeping the info on the HDD would do is let you have all the game data stored on your HDD. it wouldnt save your character and it wouldnt allow you to play the game. and no, a normal computer HDD dosent work. Sony installed some kind of recognition system that a HDD must have in order to save and use data with a PS2.
all keeping the info on the HDD would do is let you have all the game data stored on your HDD. it wouldnt save your character and it wouldnt allow you to play the game. and no, a normal computer HDD dosent work. Sony installed some kind of recognition system that a HDD must have in order to save and use data with a PS2.
sun2mid
06-08-2003, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by yinpalm
well i think they are gonna have some sell you the game deal, because from announcements the game will be packaged with the hdd, hence even if you got a free hdd you would have to buy the package. Only solution is sell you the game seperately
a seriuosly doubt this is going to be a problem. I'm sure there will be some way to buy the game seperately, so no reason to worry about it.
sun2mid
06-08-2003, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by yinpalm
well i think they are gonna have some sell you the game deal, because from announcements the game will be packaged with the hdd, hence even if you got a free hdd you would have to buy the package. Only solution is sell you the game seperately
a seriuosly doubt this is going to be a problem. I'm sure there will be some way to buy the game seperately, so no reason to worry about it.
sun2mid
06-08-2003, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by yinpalm
well i think they are gonna have some sell you the game deal, because from announcements the game will be packaged with the hdd, hence even if you got a free hdd you would have to buy the package. Only solution is sell you the game seperately
a seriuosly doubt this is going to be a problem. I'm sure there will be some way to buy the game seperately, so no reason to worry about it.
sun2mid
06-08-2003, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by yinpalm
well i think they are gonna have some sell you the game deal, because from announcements the game will be packaged with the hdd, hence even if you got a free hdd you would have to buy the package. Only solution is sell you the game seperately
a seriuosly doubt this is going to be a problem. I'm sure there will be some way to buy the game seperately, so no reason to worry about it.
I certainly hope so. it would be very ironic and extremely frustrating to have the elusive HDD... but be unable to get a copy of the finished PS2 game. talk about a slap in the face.
I certainly hope so. it would be very ironic and extremely frustrating to have the elusive HDD... but be unable to get a copy of the finished PS2 game. talk about a slap in the face.
I certainly hope so. it would be very ironic and extremely frustrating to have the elusive HDD... but be unable to get a copy of the finished PS2 game. talk about a slap in the face.
I certainly hope so. it would be very ironic and extremely frustrating to have the elusive HDD... but be unable to get a copy of the finished PS2 game. talk about a slap in the face.
Grand Lethal
06-08-2003, 12:12 PM
Of course they will sell the game seperately. there are bound to be third party HDs out there, so people will have the option to choose.
I hope they wait and release the game for both platforms at the same time though, seems kind of unfair to release it to the PC world first, even if it does mean more money for SE
I'm still curious about the shipping date of the Beta.. hopefully it is Monday, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
Grand Lethal
06-08-2003, 12:12 PM
Of course they will sell the game seperately. there are bound to be third party HDs out there, so people will have the option to choose.
I hope they wait and release the game for both platforms at the same time though, seems kind of unfair to release it to the PC world first, even if it does mean more money for SE
I'm still curious about the shipping date of the Beta.. hopefully it is Monday, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
Grand Lethal
06-08-2003, 12:12 PM
Of course they will sell the game seperately. there are bound to be third party HDs out there, so people will have the option to choose.
I hope they wait and release the game for both platforms at the same time though, seems kind of unfair to release it to the PC world first, even if it does mean more money for SE
I'm still curious about the shipping date of the Beta.. hopefully it is Monday, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
Grand Lethal
06-08-2003, 12:12 PM
Of course they will sell the game seperately. there are bound to be third party HDs out there, so people will have the option to choose.
I hope they wait and release the game for both platforms at the same time though, seems kind of unfair to release it to the PC world first, even if it does mean more money for SE
I'm still curious about the shipping date of the Beta.. hopefully it is Monday, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
kenshi
06-08-2003, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by vissione
CloudFFVII... you're going to lose your hard work no matter what.
Yes, you CAN use your own HDD... but that doesn't mean you can play when you feel like it after the Beta ends.
If "all your hard work" means your character, you'll lose it because the character information is serverside, not clientside. Even if you were to keep a copy of the Beta software installed on an alternate HDD, won't mean you can access the same character you had, much less the gameworld.
Beta software is most probably specialized for a specific test server apart from the retail gameworld. I really doubt they're shipping completed cross-platform, cross-continental versions of the game. Your account is no longer functional after the Beta ends, and there's no way to reactivate it. It's free... designed that way... so just adding your credit card number won't boot it up and save you the wait for your new HDD.
Instead of doing what you had planned, just buy the game when it's out, and use your own HDD till the official one ships. Make sure you can fasten the HDD in place though... I suggest putting something small like a custom cut-out cardboard stand the size of the HDD Bay so it doesn't move. Once you get your retail one sent from Sony, reinstall the game on your new HDD and start again your character from wherever you left off. You don't need the cardboard peice or whatever else you can think off to fasten the drive in place... the retail one comes with side rails... just screw the HDD in and it'll never budge.
By using another HDD besides the retail one isn't "modding" because you're not modifying anything. All you're doing is using third-party stuff...
Buying retail HDD: Same as buying an official controller
Buying any HDD: Same as buying a third-party controller
If by what you mean using your own hdd as lets say a hdd made for a pc why would you need to put cardboard or something in it. a cpu hdd fits right into the slot. the hdd for the ps2 from pics looks like it is smaller hence having the rails on the sides.
kenshi
06-08-2003, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by vissione
CloudFFVII... you're going to lose your hard work no matter what.
Yes, you CAN use your own HDD... but that doesn't mean you can play when you feel like it after the Beta ends.
If "all your hard work" means your character, you'll lose it because the character information is serverside, not clientside. Even if you were to keep a copy of the Beta software installed on an alternate HDD, won't mean you can access the same character you had, much less the gameworld.
Beta software is most probably specialized for a specific test server apart from the retail gameworld. I really doubt they're shipping completed cross-platform, cross-continental versions of the game. Your account is no longer functional after the Beta ends, and there's no way to reactivate it. It's free... designed that way... so just adding your credit card number won't boot it up and save you the wait for your new HDD.
Instead of doing what you had planned, just buy the game when it's out, and use your own HDD till the official one ships. Make sure you can fasten the HDD in place though... I suggest putting something small like a custom cut-out cardboard stand the size of the HDD Bay so it doesn't move. Once you get your retail one sent from Sony, reinstall the game on your new HDD and start again your character from wherever you left off. You don't need the cardboard peice or whatever else you can think off to fasten the drive in place... the retail one comes with side rails... just screw the HDD in and it'll never budge.
By using another HDD besides the retail one isn't "modding" because you're not modifying anything. All you're doing is using third-party stuff...
Buying retail HDD: Same as buying an official controller
Buying any HDD: Same as buying a third-party controller
If by what you mean using your own hdd as lets say a hdd made for a pc why would you need to put cardboard or something in it. a cpu hdd fits right into the slot. the hdd for the ps2 from pics looks like it is smaller hence having the rails on the sides.
kenshi
06-08-2003, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by vissione
CloudFFVII... you're going to lose your hard work no matter what.
Yes, you CAN use your own HDD... but that doesn't mean you can play when you feel like it after the Beta ends.
If "all your hard work" means your character, you'll lose it because the character information is serverside, not clientside. Even if you were to keep a copy of the Beta software installed on an alternate HDD, won't mean you can access the same character you had, much less the gameworld.
Beta software is most probably specialized for a specific test server apart from the retail gameworld. I really doubt they're shipping completed cross-platform, cross-continental versions of the game. Your account is no longer functional after the Beta ends, and there's no way to reactivate it. It's free... designed that way... so just adding your credit card number won't boot it up and save you the wait for your new HDD.
Instead of doing what you had planned, just buy the game when it's out, and use your own HDD till the official one ships. Make sure you can fasten the HDD in place though... I suggest putting something small like a custom cut-out cardboard stand the size of the HDD Bay so it doesn't move. Once you get your retail one sent from Sony, reinstall the game on your new HDD and start again your character from wherever you left off. You don't need the cardboard peice or whatever else you can think off to fasten the drive in place... the retail one comes with side rails... just screw the HDD in and it'll never budge.
By using another HDD besides the retail one isn't "modding" because you're not modifying anything. All you're doing is using third-party stuff...
Buying retail HDD: Same as buying an official controller
Buying any HDD: Same as buying a third-party controller
If by what you mean using your own hdd as lets say a hdd made for a pc why would you need to put cardboard or something in it. a cpu hdd fits right into the slot. the hdd for the ps2 from pics looks like it is smaller hence having the rails on the sides.
kenshi
06-08-2003, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by vissione
CloudFFVII... you're going to lose your hard work no matter what.
Yes, you CAN use your own HDD... but that doesn't mean you can play when you feel like it after the Beta ends.
If "all your hard work" means your character, you'll lose it because the character information is serverside, not clientside. Even if you were to keep a copy of the Beta software installed on an alternate HDD, won't mean you can access the same character you had, much less the gameworld.
Beta software is most probably specialized for a specific test server apart from the retail gameworld. I really doubt they're shipping completed cross-platform, cross-continental versions of the game. Your account is no longer functional after the Beta ends, and there's no way to reactivate it. It's free... designed that way... so just adding your credit card number won't boot it up and save you the wait for your new HDD.
Instead of doing what you had planned, just buy the game when it's out, and use your own HDD till the official one ships. Make sure you can fasten the HDD in place though... I suggest putting something small like a custom cut-out cardboard stand the size of the HDD Bay so it doesn't move. Once you get your retail one sent from Sony, reinstall the game on your new HDD and start again your character from wherever you left off. You don't need the cardboard peice or whatever else you can think off to fasten the drive in place... the retail one comes with side rails... just screw the HDD in and it'll never budge.
By using another HDD besides the retail one isn't "modding" because you're not modifying anything. All you're doing is using third-party stuff...
Buying retail HDD: Same as buying an official controller
Buying any HDD: Same as buying a third-party controller
If by what you mean using your own hdd as lets say a hdd made for a pc why would you need to put cardboard or something in it. a cpu hdd fits right into the slot. the hdd for the ps2 from pics looks like it is smaller hence having the rails on the sides.
Tsikuro
06-08-2003, 06:25 PM
If you even read the beta e-mail,wich i doubt,you probly have your older sister read everything for you :sweat: ,it says that the BETA HDD you receive in the BETA kit will only work with the BETA version of FFXI,and if you attempt to use it on OTHER software,it may cause damage to your console :o .You *effing* newb.
Tsikuro
06-08-2003, 06:25 PM
If you even read the beta e-mail,wich i doubt,you probly have your older sister read everything for you :sweat: ,it says that the BETA HDD you receive in the BETA kit will only work with the BETA version of FFXI,and if you attempt to use it on OTHER software,it may cause damage to your console :o .You *effing* newb.
Tsikuro
06-08-2003, 06:25 PM
If you even read the beta e-mail,wich i doubt,you probly have your older sister read everything for you :sweat: ,it says that the BETA HDD you receive in the BETA kit will only work with the BETA version of FFXI,and if you attempt to use it on OTHER software,it may cause damage to your console :o .You *effing* newb.
Tsikuro
06-08-2003, 06:25 PM
If you even read the beta e-mail,wich i doubt,you probly have your older sister read everything for you :sweat: ,it says that the BETA HDD you receive in the BETA kit will only work with the BETA version of FFXI,and if you attempt to use it on OTHER software,it may cause damage to your console :o .You *effing* newb.
vissione
06-08-2003, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by ZERO
and no, a normal computer HDD dosent work. Sony installed some kind of recognition system that a HDD must have in order to save and use data with a PS2.
/sigh
Look man, I'm not talking out of my ass here. Sony doesn't put anything on the HDDs. They come clean with nothing on them.
Have you heard of the ATA interface? Have you seen a network adapter? Have you connected any HDD you have to your network adapter and seen that it fits?
Your computer is different from a PC, that is true. However, they designed the PS2 to use existing HDDs so it would be much cheaper. Sony does NOT make HDDs, they are merely getting licensed HDDs from Seagate for the retail ones they'll sell and Maxtor for the Linux kit.
When PC Beta users get their copy they'll just install the game and fire up and go play. When PS2 Beta users get the game, they'll have to format the drive in order to use it with the PS2.
This is what gets you n00bs confused. :sweat: NTFS and EXT3 are different filesystems, not different kinds of HDDs. You can switch filesystem at anytime... it doesn't do any damage to your HDD. In order to use your own HDD for FFXI you'll need to format any drive you have into EXT3 (which is the filesystem to Linux... whereas Windows used FAT32 and now NTFS.)
The game will do that for you, so... where's the problem?
If by what you mean using your own hdd as lets say a hdd made for a pc why would you need to put cardboard or something in it. a cpu hdd fits right into the slot. the hdd for the ps2 from pics looks like it is smaller hence having the rails on the sides.
First of all I wanna make sure everyone is clear that a HDD is a HDD... there's no "HDD" for PCs, "HDD" for Xbox, and "HDD" for PS2. That's just a bunch of consumer confidence mumbo jumbo. If Sony and Microsoft used custom HDDs ala Laptop sized ones... we'd be in deep trouble cause the price of the consoles would be insanely high, or their losses would be incredibly high. They went the cheap route by getting licenses. Microsoft has 2 variations of it's HDD... a 10GB one and an 8GB one. The 10 is partitioned so it only uses 8... so the standard size is 8 on all Xboxes. Some Xboxes use Seagate drives, others use Western Digital...I believe the 8GB ones are WD and the 10 are Seagate. Likewise Sony has Maxtor doing HDDs for it's Linux kit, and Seagate for the retail version... they do the SAME function, only licensed from different companies.
The HDD bay (for Playstation2) is bigger than a typical HDD, except some Western Digital drives... those are huge and some models don't fit in the HDD bay. The retail one comes with rails so it'll stay straight... that's the reason why it has them.
Anyone trying to use their own drive should stick to Maxtor or Seagate because they're the perfect size drives. Placing a cardboard stand under the HDD will keep it straight which helps data flow. Without something to support the drive, it'll lean down like this ( [NetworkAdapter]\ <-- HDD ) and even if it's a slight lean it's not good. Running the game, if something were to happen to your PS2 like someone picks it up and the HDD comes out of socket with the ATA interface while it's on will be a serious problem. That's why if you're doing things the way you're not supposed to you have to be careful... and why I suggested a stand. It's still not safe either because it's not screwed in... it can still come out of place so being careful until he gets his retail drive is another suggestion.
He could make his own rails too... all you need to do is get some rails at a comp store and then cut off the clutter so it fits with your HDD into the bay. Use your imagination and play it safe when doing something like that...
vissione
06-08-2003, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by ZERO
and no, a normal computer HDD dosent work. Sony installed some kind of recognition system that a HDD must have in order to save and use data with a PS2.
/sigh
Look man, I'm not talking out of my ass here. Sony doesn't put anything on the HDDs. They come clean with nothing on them.
Have you heard of the ATA interface? Have you seen a network adapter? Have you connected any HDD you have to your network adapter and seen that it fits?
Your computer is different from a PC, that is true. However, they designed the PS2 to use existing HDDs so it would be much cheaper. Sony does NOT make HDDs, they are merely getting licensed HDDs from Seagate for the retail ones they'll sell and Maxtor for the Linux kit.
When PC Beta users get their copy they'll just install the game and fire up and go play. When PS2 Beta users get the game, they'll have to format the drive in order to use it with the PS2.
This is what gets you n00bs confused. :sweat: NTFS and EXT3 are different filesystems, not different kinds of HDDs. You can switch filesystem at anytime... it doesn't do any damage to your HDD. In order to use your own HDD for FFXI you'll need to format any drive you have into EXT3 (which is the filesystem to Linux... whereas Windows used FAT32 and now NTFS.)
The game will do that for you, so... where's the problem?
If by what you mean using your own hdd as lets say a hdd made for a pc why would you need to put cardboard or something in it. a cpu hdd fits right into the slot. the hdd for the ps2 from pics looks like it is smaller hence having the rails on the sides.
First of all I wanna make sure everyone is clear that a HDD is a HDD... there's no "HDD" for PCs, "HDD" for Xbox, and "HDD" for PS2. That's just a bunch of consumer confidence mumbo jumbo. If Sony and Microsoft used custom HDDs ala Laptop sized ones... we'd be in deep trouble cause the price of the consoles would be insanely high, or their losses would be incredibly high. They went the cheap route by getting licenses. Microsoft has 2 variations of it's HDD... a 10GB one and an 8GB one. The 10 is partitioned so it only uses 8... so the standard size is 8 on all Xboxes. Some Xboxes use Seagate drives, others use Western Digital...I believe the 8GB ones are WD and the 10 are Seagate. Likewise Sony has Maxtor doing HDDs for it's Linux kit, and Seagate for the retail version... they do the SAME function, only licensed from different companies.
The HDD bay (for Playstation2) is bigger than a typical HDD, except some Western Digital drives... those are huge and some models don't fit in the HDD bay. The retail one comes with rails so it'll stay straight... that's the reason why it has them.
Anyone trying to use their own drive should stick to Maxtor or Seagate because they're the perfect size drives. Placing a cardboard stand under the HDD will keep it straight which helps data flow. Without something to support the drive, it'll lean down like this ( [NetworkAdapter]\ <-- HDD ) and even if it's a slight lean it's not good. Running the game, if something were to happen to your PS2 like someone picks it up and the HDD comes out of socket with the ATA interface while it's on will be a serious problem. That's why if you're doing things the way you're not supposed to you have to be careful... and why I suggested a stand. It's still not safe either because it's not screwed in... it can still come out of place so being careful until he gets his retail drive is another suggestion.
He could make his own rails too... all you need to do is get some rails at a comp store and then cut off the clutter so it fits with your HDD into the bay. Use your imagination and play it safe when doing something like that...
vissione
06-08-2003, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by ZERO
and no, a normal computer HDD dosent work. Sony installed some kind of recognition system that a HDD must have in order to save and use data with a PS2.
/sigh
Look man, I'm not talking out of my ass here. Sony doesn't put anything on the HDDs. They come clean with nothing on them.
Have you heard of the ATA interface? Have you seen a network adapter? Have you connected any HDD you have to your network adapter and seen that it fits?
Your computer is different from a PC, that is true. However, they designed the PS2 to use existing HDDs so it would be much cheaper. Sony does NOT make HDDs, they are merely getting licensed HDDs from Seagate for the retail ones they'll sell and Maxtor for the Linux kit.
When PC Beta users get their copy they'll just install the game and fire up and go play. When PS2 Beta users get the game, they'll have to format the drive in order to use it with the PS2.
This is what gets you n00bs confused. :sweat: NTFS and EXT3 are different filesystems, not different kinds of HDDs. You can switch filesystem at anytime... it doesn't do any damage to your HDD. In order to use your own HDD for FFXI you'll need to format any drive you have into EXT3 (which is the filesystem to Linux... whereas Windows used FAT32 and now NTFS.)
The game will do that for you, so... where's the problem?
If by what you mean using your own hdd as lets say a hdd made for a pc why would you need to put cardboard or something in it. a cpu hdd fits right into the slot. the hdd for the ps2 from pics looks like it is smaller hence having the rails on the sides.
First of all I wanna make sure everyone is clear that a HDD is a HDD... there's no "HDD" for PCs, "HDD" for Xbox, and "HDD" for PS2. That's just a bunch of consumer confidence mumbo jumbo. If Sony and Microsoft used custom HDDs ala Laptop sized ones... we'd be in deep trouble cause the price of the consoles would be insanely high, or their losses would be incredibly high. They went the cheap route by getting licenses. Microsoft has 2 variations of it's HDD... a 10GB one and an 8GB one. The 10 is partitioned so it only uses 8... so the standard size is 8 on all Xboxes. Some Xboxes use Seagate drives, others use Western Digital...I believe the 8GB ones are WD and the 10 are Seagate. Likewise Sony has Maxtor doing HDDs for it's Linux kit, and Seagate for the retail version... they do the SAME function, only licensed from different companies.
The HDD bay (for Playstation2) is bigger than a typical HDD, except some Western Digital drives... those are huge and some models don't fit in the HDD bay. The retail one comes with rails so it'll stay straight... that's the reason why it has them.
Anyone trying to use their own drive should stick to Maxtor or Seagate because they're the perfect size drives. Placing a cardboard stand under the HDD will keep it straight which helps data flow. Without something to support the drive, it'll lean down like this ( [NetworkAdapter]\ <-- HDD ) and even if it's a slight lean it's not good. Running the game, if something were to happen to your PS2 like someone picks it up and the HDD comes out of socket with the ATA interface while it's on will be a serious problem. That's why if you're doing things the way you're not supposed to you have to be careful... and why I suggested a stand. It's still not safe either because it's not screwed in... it can still come out of place so being careful until he gets his retail drive is another suggestion.
He could make his own rails too... all you need to do is get some rails at a comp store and then cut off the clutter so it fits with your HDD into the bay. Use your imagination and play it safe when doing something like that...
vissione
06-08-2003, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by ZERO
and no, a normal computer HDD dosent work. Sony installed some kind of recognition system that a HDD must have in order to save and use data with a PS2.
/sigh
Look man, I'm not talking out of my ass here. Sony doesn't put anything on the HDDs. They come clean with nothing on them.
Have you heard of the ATA interface? Have you seen a network adapter? Have you connected any HDD you have to your network adapter and seen that it fits?
Your computer is different from a PC, that is true. However, they designed the PS2 to use existing HDDs so it would be much cheaper. Sony does NOT make HDDs, they are merely getting licensed HDDs from Seagate for the retail ones they'll sell and Maxtor for the Linux kit.
When PC Beta users get their copy they'll just install the game and fire up and go play. When PS2 Beta users get the game, they'll have to format the drive in order to use it with the PS2.
This is what gets you n00bs confused. :sweat: NTFS and EXT3 are different filesystems, not different kinds of HDDs. You can switch filesystem at anytime... it doesn't do any damage to your HDD. In order to use your own HDD for FFXI you'll need to format any drive you have into EXT3 (which is the filesystem to Linux... whereas Windows used FAT32 and now NTFS.)
The game will do that for you, so... where's the problem?
If by what you mean using your own hdd as lets say a hdd made for a pc why would you need to put cardboard or something in it. a cpu hdd fits right into the slot. the hdd for the ps2 from pics looks like it is smaller hence having the rails on the sides.
First of all I wanna make sure everyone is clear that a HDD is a HDD... there's no "HDD" for PCs, "HDD" for Xbox, and "HDD" for PS2. That's just a bunch of consumer confidence mumbo jumbo. If Sony and Microsoft used custom HDDs ala Laptop sized ones... we'd be in deep trouble cause the price of the consoles would be insanely high, or their losses would be incredibly high. They went the cheap route by getting licenses. Microsoft has 2 variations of it's HDD... a 10GB one and an 8GB one. The 10 is partitioned so it only uses 8... so the standard size is 8 on all Xboxes. Some Xboxes use Seagate drives, others use Western Digital...I believe the 8GB ones are WD and the 10 are Seagate. Likewise Sony has Maxtor doing HDDs for it's Linux kit, and Seagate for the retail version... they do the SAME function, only licensed from different companies.
The HDD bay (for Playstation2) is bigger than a typical HDD, except some Western Digital drives... those are huge and some models don't fit in the HDD bay. The retail one comes with rails so it'll stay straight... that's the reason why it has them.
Anyone trying to use their own drive should stick to Maxtor or Seagate because they're the perfect size drives. Placing a cardboard stand under the HDD will keep it straight which helps data flow. Without something to support the drive, it'll lean down like this ( [NetworkAdapter]\ <-- HDD ) and even if it's a slight lean it's not good. Running the game, if something were to happen to your PS2 like someone picks it up and the HDD comes out of socket with the ATA interface while it's on will be a serious problem. That's why if you're doing things the way you're not supposed to you have to be careful... and why I suggested a stand. It's still not safe either because it's not screwed in... it can still come out of place so being careful until he gets his retail drive is another suggestion.
He could make his own rails too... all you need to do is get some rails at a comp store and then cut off the clutter so it fits with your HDD into the bay. Use your imagination and play it safe when doing something like that...
Grand Lethal
06-09-2003, 07:53 AM
Thats what I've been thinking of doing since the beginning, but with Sony now sending me the HDD after the beta test I'm not so worried about messing things up.
My one concern is this though: In the email it says that this HDD is for the beta test only... yadda yadda yadda. I may be wrong, but I'm guessing that they already have th game installed at some level and that you will not see an FFXI disk at all... I could be wrong (like I said) but this would make sense security-wise don't you think?
I guess we'll all know "in the coming weeks"
Grand Lethal
06-09-2003, 07:53 AM
Thats what I've been thinking of doing since the beginning, but with Sony now sending me the HDD after the beta test I'm not so worried about messing things up.
My one concern is this though: In the email it says that this HDD is for the beta test only... yadda yadda yadda. I may be wrong, but I'm guessing that they already have th game installed at some level and that you will not see an FFXI disk at all... I could be wrong (like I said) but this would make sense security-wise don't you think?
I guess we'll all know "in the coming weeks"
Grand Lethal
06-09-2003, 07:53 AM
Thats what I've been thinking of doing since the beginning, but with Sony now sending me the HDD after the beta test I'm not so worried about messing things up.
My one concern is this though: In the email it says that this HDD is for the beta test only... yadda yadda yadda. I may be wrong, but I'm guessing that they already have th game installed at some level and that you will not see an FFXI disk at all... I could be wrong (like I said) but this would make sense security-wise don't you think?
I guess we'll all know "in the coming weeks"
Grand Lethal
06-09-2003, 07:53 AM
Thats what I've been thinking of doing since the beginning, but with Sony now sending me the HDD after the beta test I'm not so worried about messing things up.
My one concern is this though: In the email it says that this HDD is for the beta test only... yadda yadda yadda. I may be wrong, but I'm guessing that they already have th game installed at some level and that you will not see an FFXI disk at all... I could be wrong (like I said) but this would make sense security-wise don't you think?
I guess we'll all know "in the coming weeks"
vissione
06-09-2003, 09:23 AM
Originally posted by Grand Lethal
Thats what I've been thinking of doing since the beginning, but with Sony now sending me the HDD after the beta test I'm not so worried about messing things up.
My one concern is this though: In the email it says that this HDD is for the beta test only... yadda yadda yadda. I may be wrong, but I'm guessing that they already have th game installed at some level and that you will not see an FFXI disk at all... I could be wrong (like I said) but this would make sense security-wise don't you think?
I guess we'll all know "in the coming weeks"
No... software doesn't come preloaded on HDDs for safety reasons.
I so hope I was accepted but my confirmation got blocked(had filter on enhanced)... I hope I get my Beta kit in the mail as a big surprize. Damn Hotmail... once I get my @pol.com email I'm never using that POS again. :mad: I switched it to default and I found out it was blocking newsletters from IGN... among other stuff I do NOT consider junk mail. :mad:
vissione
06-09-2003, 09:23 AM
Originally posted by Grand Lethal
Thats what I've been thinking of doing since the beginning, but with Sony now sending me the HDD after the beta test I'm not so worried about messing things up.
My one concern is this though: In the email it says that this HDD is for the beta test only... yadda yadda yadda. I may be wrong, but I'm guessing that they already have th game installed at some level and that you will not see an FFXI disk at all... I could be wrong (like I said) but this would make sense security-wise don't you think?
I guess we'll all know "in the coming weeks"
No... software doesn't come preloaded on HDDs for safety reasons.
I so hope I was accepted but my confirmation got blocked(had filter on enhanced)... I hope I get my Beta kit in the mail as a big surprize. Damn Hotmail... once I get my @pol.com email I'm never using that POS again. :mad: I switched it to default and I found out it was blocking newsletters from IGN... among other stuff I do NOT consider junk mail. :mad:
vissione
06-09-2003, 09:23 AM
Originally posted by Grand Lethal
Thats what I've been thinking of doing since the beginning, but with Sony now sending me the HDD after the beta test I'm not so worried about messing things up.
My one concern is this though: In the email it says that this HDD is for the beta test only... yadda yadda yadda. I may be wrong, but I'm guessing that they already have th game installed at some level and that you will not see an FFXI disk at all... I could be wrong (like I said) but this would make sense security-wise don't you think?
I guess we'll all know "in the coming weeks"
No... software doesn't come preloaded on HDDs for safety reasons.
I so hope I was accepted but my confirmation got blocked(had filter on enhanced)... I hope I get my Beta kit in the mail as a big surprize. Damn Hotmail... once I get my @pol.com email I'm never using that POS again. :mad: I switched it to default and I found out it was blocking newsletters from IGN... among other stuff I do NOT consider junk mail. :mad:
vissione
06-09-2003, 09:23 AM
Originally posted by Grand Lethal
Thats what I've been thinking of doing since the beginning, but with Sony now sending me the HDD after the beta test I'm not so worried about messing things up.
My one concern is this though: In the email it says that this HDD is for the beta test only... yadda yadda yadda. I may be wrong, but I'm guessing that they already have th game installed at some level and that you will not see an FFXI disk at all... I could be wrong (like I said) but this would make sense security-wise don't you think?
I guess we'll all know "in the coming weeks"
No... software doesn't come preloaded on HDDs for safety reasons.
I so hope I was accepted but my confirmation got blocked(had filter on enhanced)... I hope I get my Beta kit in the mail as a big surprize. Damn Hotmail... once I get my @pol.com email I'm never using that POS again. :mad: I switched it to default and I found out it was blocking newsletters from IGN... among other stuff I do NOT consider junk mail. :mad:
Grand Lethal
06-09-2003, 09:28 AM
yeah, I'm happy I check my junkmai folder because it got stuffed in there (agrees that Hotmail is crappy, but not as crappy as my ISP email lol)
I'll keep my fingers crosse for you
Grand Lethal
06-09-2003, 09:28 AM
yeah, I'm happy I check my junkmai folder because it got stuffed in there (agrees that Hotmail is crappy, but not as crappy as my ISP email lol)
I'll keep my fingers crosse for you
Grand Lethal
06-09-2003, 09:28 AM
yeah, I'm happy I check my junkmai folder because it got stuffed in there (agrees that Hotmail is crappy, but not as crappy as my ISP email lol)
I'll keep my fingers crosse for you
Grand Lethal
06-09-2003, 09:28 AM
yeah, I'm happy I check my junkmai folder because it got stuffed in there (agrees that Hotmail is crappy, but not as crappy as my ISP email lol)
I'll keep my fingers crosse for you
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