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Surfer`
05-23-2003, 05:42 AM
I heard that the level 10 Ninja ability Dual Wield doesn't increase damage substantially when the Ninja is the main job.

So I am wondering is it worth it making a Thief/Ninja if the Dual Wield if the Dual Wield isn't as strong as initially thought to be. After all, the Dual Wield is the biggest incentive to use Ninja. Or maybe it is different for the thief?

Maybe a Thief/Warrior is a better alternative?

Thanx

Calilove
05-23-2003, 10:03 AM
I'm still not convinced that dual weild is as weak as everyone says (in all of my authority as a non-importer). I think the trick to dual weild is maximizing TP collection and WS variety.

It would seem that the best way to do this is to use one sword and one dagger. The reason this will work, is that you'll have a pretty solid damage, slightly quicker delay (ergo the dagger) and two sents of WS to chose, so that you can participate in a ton of combos.

The nice thing with having Thief as your main, is that you can use backstab, and other "special" hits on every swing... not bad.

MogFFXIGamer
05-23-2003, 11:05 AM
I see you didn't bother to read what I posted concerning your post about ninja^^;

You can only use 1 set of WS when you dual weild, your main weapon hand

Using a sword and dagger will not have a "slightly quicker delay" because the delay times are added, 200delay dagger + 250 delay sword = 450 delay, slower than a scythe

You can only collect TP as fast as you hit and depending on what weapon you are using.. and 450 delay is by no means quick

Surfer`
05-23-2003, 12:24 PM
I created this topic before you replied to my reply in the ninja board.

Thanx a lot for your help though. It's far clearer now ^^

MogFFXIGamer
05-23-2003, 12:33 PM
I was talking about Calilove^^;

Calilove
05-23-2003, 01:07 PM
I still haven't read other post Mog, I got so excited about my new WS idea:sweat: That blows though, you should be able to use both WS, it doesn't make sense to me! I gotta figure that either people haven't figured out the best way to use dual weild yet, or they will fix it, cuz it doesn't make any sense to get screwed that much on hit delay, and do less damage! What the deal!?

So what you're saying is that you have a combined delay, then you hit with both weapons at once... hm... DUAL WEILD SUCKS! BLAH!:mad: :sweat:

Schneids
05-28-2003, 06:31 PM
so you are saying that with 2 weapons it take longer to swing? i don't think that is right, ninja's are supose to be fast not a tank char, that cann't be right. if i am wrong please tell me but tell me why/how

Surfer`
05-28-2003, 09:10 PM
I am going by what importers have said.

I will refer you to this post and please look at the posts from the importers:

http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10744