Has anyone ever noticed?

[MonglyMcBurgers]

Has anyone ever noticed how much more convenient the Pc version of FF11 will be than the ps2 version.


Pc: Dont have to get a Tv near the computor get a network adaptor ect ect..... for $200 to get everything ready, For Pc just boot it up install it and ur ready to go.

Pc: Comes out Before ps2 version, Q4 2003, Ps2version: Q1 2004

Pc: Comes with the expasion (No wait for it) Ps2 version does not.

Ps2: Must spend at least $200 getting the multiplayer hooked up network adap ect ect... Getting a tv near the comp. Much more hastle.

Ps2: Comes out After Pc version.

Ps2: Does not come with expansion with it.

I dont no about you guys but im getting the Pc version Lol.

Advantage: PC In my opinion anyway.

[Tsuko]

You repeated like three.

Anyway, in duty of my un-biased self, even if I AM getting the PC version for other reasons (mainly me living in Venezuela :P), I still think getting the PS2 version is vaild. First of all, you have the stability that many others are playing with your exact connection. Second, you don't have to mind Windows errors, or game glitches, which often occur on Square-PC ports. You get the chance to play on a much bigger screen (almost always), and play it in a couch. :spin:

[LegoMan463]

Bigger screen but still the same resolution of 640x480.

[saga]

ur both right but I think the reall good thing about the PC is that u can change the resolution to a much hight reolution than 640x480...imagine a resolution of 1280x1024...much better that TV....no??

[zelly]

Tsuko:

Ever heard of MOVING furniture? :spin: :spin: :spin: :spin:

[Keji]

Wait...so only the pc comes with expansion?????

[omnigene]

i doubt it, i thought PS2 did too... i mean why wouldnt it?

[Haplo]

Originally posted by MonglyMcBurgers
Has anyone ever noticed how much more convenient the Pc version of FF11 will be than the ps2 version.


1. Pc: Dont have to get a Tv near the computor get a network adaptor ect ect..... for $200 to get everything ready, For Pc just boot it up install it and ur ready to go.

2. Pc: Comes out Before ps2 version, Q4 2003, Ps2version: Q1 2004

3. Pc: Comes with the expasion (No wait for it) Ps2 version does not.

4. Ps2: Must spend at least $200 getting the multiplayer hooked up network adap ect ect... Getting a tv near the comp. Much more hastle.

5. Ps2: Comes out After Pc version.

6. Ps2: Does not come with expansion with it.

I dont no about you guys but im getting the Pc version Lol.

Advantage: PC In my opinion anyway.

1. PS2, just stick in the CD, install and your ready. Did you think that most people don't have kick-ass computers and would have to upgrade to be able to play this very demanding game?

2. Yes, it does, but most people enjoy console gaming over PC gaming. It has a different feel to it.

3. Huh? Says who?

4. $200? Hell no. Not for anything to do with a PS2. TV near a computer? Where did you come up with that idea?

5. See 2

6. See 3

Advantage: PC is you just can't wait to play the game and have a nice computer. PS2 if you want that "console feel" and the nice fluffy couch.

[MonglyMcBurgers]

Ok, There is the Technical asshole. I was waiting for one to come and start an argument.

Ok pal i no ur trying to act smart and all but i no what im talking about you obviously ***dont***



First of all The Expansion comes with the pc version , I should no that because my brother works for the fucking company who makes ff11

2nd: It does cost about $200 to get setup with the online playstaion, Yet again i should no that becuase i got it set up. Network Adaptor Ect Ect.....

3rd: Yes you do need a tv near the computor (Atleast in most homes where the internet cables are set up in the fucking comp)

And you need the internet to get online, Are we learning now?
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:????

[MonglyMcBurgers]

O ya and what zelly Said if you want a fucking couch move it around.

Works for both.

Good common Sense Zelly :biggrin:

[Haplo]

Originally posted by MonglyMcBurgers
First of all The Expansion comes with the pc version , I should no that because my brother works for the fucking company who makes ff11

2nd: It does cost about $200 to get setup with the online playstaion, Yet again i should no that becuase i got it set up. Network Adaptor Ect Ect.....

3rd: Yes you do need a tv near the computor (Atleast in most homes where the internet cables are set up in the fucking comp)

And you need the internet to get online, Are we learning now?
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:???? [/B]

1st: I never said it didn't. In fact, I know it does, but since when does the PS2 NOT come with it? It might be just me, but that makes no sense.

2nd: $200 my ass. I'll guesstimate here.
Network Adaptor (Needed to go online): $40
Last I checked that's $40. Now, maybe you meant with the hard drive and game and all that junk. Well, I'll add to it.
40 GB Hard Drive (You can usually get about $1 per GB now, so I'll say): $55
Game: $50-$55 (standard cost)
Ok, so that's no more than $150. I might even be pushing that hard drive cost. Now, realize that a lot of people already have a NA and it can be used for many different games. So to get the PS2 online, it takes the NA, but that's no reason to stick it in the price for FFXI.

3rd: They call those cables and wires.

And of course I'm learning. I learned some knew words.

PS: Don't capitalize words after commas, I is capitalized when singular, it's you're, not ur, know is know, not no, I'm is capitalized and has an apostrophe (so does don't), it's Etc., not Ect.
/end english.lesson

[MonglyMcBurgers]

Omfg Your worse then those assholes online, Listen pal I was trying to make a point.

Not give you a major English Essay. And you seemed to understand me just fine, Thats all i care about when im talking online.

And your best insults like most Dork Ass comptuor programmers or whatever the fuck they call you these days is Spelling.

Your best insult is a little bit of grammer i fucked up.

O and

P.S

You dont have to quote my whole message when it is right above you unless you think the world has eye problems.

P.S.S
A little quote of my own You- Quote**I learned Somthing ***KNEW*** the right grammer is ***NEW***

Look up those words in the dictionary for me. And Tell me the differnce like a good boy. C ya

[SlizenDize]

I think It's getting a little bit to tense here on both sides...

Accept the fact that some ppl likes to play consol of many various reasons and the same of ppl which likes to play on a PC...
You can sure make statements and tell other ppl what you think, but theres no reason to argue since you cannot convince the other individual becaus this is not a matter of quality or quantity anymore but a question of what you guys think.
This is no thing to argue about becuase a discussion like this is never ending...

And for Mongly watch your language I really think you could get banned for such things (and we dont want that do we?).


I know that you might think that I'm not the guy to talk about your discussions but since this is a public Thread I have all the right cuz this isn't funny.

And one more thing...
Please don't get pissed at me I'm just trying to make every1 happy and If I have failed with that please say it in a desent way ok?

I will take critisicm If you say it right.

[Haplo]

Thanks for the spelling mistake. I made a *typo.* Anyway now, you seem either a little to into this, or need a little anger management. Not once do I recall myself "dissing" you, or being offensive in any way. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean you're wrong.
P.S.
I'm unsure what version I'm getting

You spelled even more words wrong in that post

knew ( P ) Pronunciation Key (n, ny)
v.
Past tense of know
new ( P ) Pronunciation Key (n, ny)
adj. new·er, new·est
Having been made or come into being only a short time ago; recent :thumbsup:

[ninjaturtle]

You say you need to spend $200 to get ps2 hooked up, but for a lot of people they would have to spend a whole bunch more for computer parts in order to even be able to have the minimum requirements. So thats a decent argument on why not to get it for PC. Also form me to play on ps2 i wont need to move my Tv, all i need is a long wire to hook up my ps2. But it dosnt really matter what system you get it for, i mean, who really cares, like your playing the game and you cant get a group because you own the ps2 version instead of PC, funny to see that happen.

[MonglyMcBurgers]

Ok Ok fine... I did get to angry, But its just when i make a post Stating my opinion and some dude comes, Acting like he is the smartest person on earth really annoy's me.

But im sure u didint mean to i apologize lata.

[MonglyMcBurgers]

The requirments arnt that big

Just a basic Comp Hold on ill get them

[MonglyMcBurgers]

Ok i have the requirments and the mimimum requirments really arnt that big at all.


Requirments: Minimum

1:Operating System- Windows 98, 98se, ME, 2000, XP Anyone one of them works so no hastle there.


2:Cpu- Intel Pentium III Most people got that.

3:Memory- 128MB Ram About Average

4:Graphics- DirectX8.1 AGP compatible (G-Force 3 Recommended) Both of them, Are average

5:Sound- DirectX8.1 Compatible

6:Harddisk- At least 4.56 Free Space

7:Mouse/USB Mouse- Any mouse should do (OM-44UPI Logitech Mouse recomended)

8:CD-ROM- 4X or higher

9:Modem 56K or higher <----- everyone should atleast have that)


Recommended Requirments: Dont have to have these, These are just Recomended.

1: Any windows

2: Pentium 4 Recomended

3: 256MB Recomended

4: Geforce 3 Recomended, GeForce 4 For people that can afford it.

5: Same as minimum no real maximum.

6: Yet again All you really need is 4.56 free space no real maximum.

7: Any mouse Recomended is already on the mimimum list.

8: 32X Cd-Rom Recomended

9: ISDN, Cable, T1 and up for people than can afford it Recomended, 56k will work though

There you go. C yaz

[Shadowed]

I'm getting the PS2 version for one reason.

My brother and I can play together in the same room without buying another computer.

[MonglyMcBurgers]

True

[Haplo]

The main thing needed besides processor is an awesome video card, which can cost $200-$400.

[Sagus]

Actually, the box for the FFXI All-in-one pack says 6gb is required. And it did, in fact, use most of those 6 gigs. All the rest are right on the money (though you might want to go with 256 megs or higher...the game would SUCK with only 128)

[MonglyMcBurgers]

Ya i no:dead:

[MonglyMcBurgers]

Ya i no

[MonglyMcBurgers]

oops srry lol

[KiTA]

Originally posted by MonglyMcBurgers
Has anyone ever noticed how much more convenient the Pc version of FF11 will be than the ps2 version.


A few problems.

Pc: Dont have to get a Tv near the computor get a network adaptor ect ect..... for $200 to get everything ready, For Pc just boot it up install it and ur ready to go.

Um. $200 assuming you've already shelled out about $500 for a computer that can handle FFXI.

Pc: Comes with the expasion (No wait for it) Ps2 version does not.

Where did you hear this? This is news to me.

Ps2: Comes out After Pc version.

And the PS2 beta starts before the PC version. Sony sucks, what can we say?

I dont no about you guys but im getting the Pc version Lol.

Advantage: PC In my opinion anyway.

Again. If you have the power to run the PC version, go for it. I barely do and I have a rather beefy computer.

[MonglyMcBurgers]

Um hi

First of all i dont mean to be rude but that was kinda dumb posting all that. Because haplo said the exact same thing, and i just had a big arguement over it. Just read back it should answer most of those questions.:thumbsup:

[Haplo]

Mwahaha, I'm so awesome people quote me without even knowing it.
By the way, I'm getting PS2 for sure now because my computer freezes a shitload for reasons unknown. That's a good reason, eh?

[Gyles]

well, for one thing, the PS2 version is gona cost me around... ::counts on fingers::... 50 bucks.
already have:
a PS2
the adapter
networking cables run from the computer room to my room
a bed to lay on
a USB keyboard
a free HDD on the way from Square in my beta kit
and dolby digital surround sound
all i will need is the game

for the PC version, i'd need a whole new computer

before, you go saying how it's more convenient, think of the little people:)

[Shadowed]

Wow, that sure kills the price... only 50 bucks, nice.

[James Ruglia]

I can get it on PS2 with teh Harddrive and Network Adaptor and install them, or just get the game on PC. I'll sacrifice a bit of play quality(my dad really needs a new Gfx card, GForce 2 MX is not as up to date as he likes to think) and play it half a year sooner.(And when your best ally/yet rival is in a race to get it sooner than you to have a better character, this is very important. Especially when they have enough arrogence and self-worship to make anyone slap the hell out've him)

[gurico]

Hi, I'll add my tidbit

expansion topic
Mongly, your brother is completely misinformed or has nothing to do with FF XI team because your first statement is false. How do I know this? Maybe I don't know and I am just spewing bullshit out of my mouth

The fact of the matter is, there has been no public announcement for the NA product so my point is, even if your brother is the lead programmer for FF XI, there hasn't been any official statement. I suggest you go to the source...your brother and find out more because your statement lacks any hard evidence other than "my brother told me so"

But let's get back to this topic and think about it. Would you think that SCEA would be happy in any way about knowing that the PC will have more than their license product? I dont work for Sony, but if I were a business man, I would be outraged. Go do some moe homework then post.

[GusVJr]

In the long run the PS2 version would be cheaper for me and mostly everyone. I have a pretty good computer but i wanted to my system to be more comfortable with the game. I spent 500 dollars upgrading my card and ram so.. I would have really benefitted from the ps2 version..

I think it'd cost over 200 for the ps2 version though.. especially if you wanted the full benefit of the game. I'm going to buy the ps2 version for someone in my family...

Harddrive -- unsure? you tell me? 70-100
Game -- 50
Cool logitech keyboard - 70 plus shipping
A mouse possibly
A network adaptor..

[PlaZma]

Originally posted by MonglyMcBurgers
Ok i have the requirments and the mimimum requirments really arnt that big at all.


Requirments: Minimum

1:Operating System- Windows 98, 98se, ME, 2000, XP Anyone one of them works so no hastle there.


2:Cpu- Intel Pentium III Most people got that.

3:Memory- 128MB Ram About Average

4:Graphics- DirectX8.1 AGP compatible (G-Force 3 Recommended) Both of them, Are average

5:Sound- DirectX8.1 Compatible

6:Harddisk- At least 4.56 Free Space

7:Mouse/USB Mouse- Any mouse should do (OM-44UPI Logitech Mouse recomended)

8:CD-ROM- 4X or higher

9:Modem 56K or higher <----- everyone should atleast have that)


Recommended Requirments: Dont have to have these, These are just Recomended.

1: Any windows

2: Pentium 4 Recomended

3: 256MB Recomended

4: Geforce 3 Recomended, GeForce 4 For people that can afford it.

5: Same as minimum no real maximum.

6: Yet again All you really need is 4.56 free space no real maximum.

7: Any mouse Recomended is already on the mimimum list.

8: 32X Cd-Rom Recomended

9: ISDN, Cable, T1 and up for people than can afford it Recomended, 56k will work though

There you go. C yaz

Well, those are minimum requirements. Meaning you won't get the best performance. But on PS2 you'll get full performance without needing to upgrade anything.

I can understand getting both versions because I have a pretty nice pc setup too. (I really only need to upgrade my gfx card) On the other hand, my ps2 is set up comfortably. (plasma tv and a couch to go with it) So I think I might get both. They both have their advantages and disadvantages. It's just a matter of personal preference.

[Zelld]

SO your brother works for Square-Enix?

Or he works for the company that is pressing the CD's?

Or you are just full of it?

[gurico]

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I can understand getting both versions because I have a pretty nice pc setup too. (I really only need to upgrade my gfx card) On the other hand, my ps2 is set up comfortably. (plasma tv and a couch to go with it) So I think I might get both. They both have their advantages and disadvantages. It's just a matter of personal preference.
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I completely agree

[Haplo]

Originally posted by GusVJr
Harddrive -- unsure? you tell me? 70-100
Game -- 50
Cool logitech keyboard - 70 plus shipping
A mouse possibly
A network adaptor..
HDD - I'd say $50-$60 since it's only 40 gigs
Game - $50
Cool Powerboard - $20
Mouse - no
NA - $40, but that's unfair to add to the price, seeing as numerous games already support it, unlike the HDD.

So, that's about $160, $120 without the NA, and when you're talking only $200 max, $40-$80 can mean a big difference.

[GusVJr]

I really don't think it's unfair. None of the games that come packed with the adaptor have caught my attention. I'm sure I'm not alone. I don't have an adaptor so it's an added charge.

Other than that, you seem right on the money.

[Strider]

Hi there, i would like to make a point if i could. Ok this first of all is stating that those who insult or say bad things to others have a lot of growing up to do.

Second,
if your brother works for square enix, not "the fucking company" then you would probably be playing the import in my opinion. hey maybe your computer isnt that great, but then you could play a PS2 Import.

Third,
There has been no announcement that FFXI for the PS2 will not come with the Visions of Ziraat expansion.

Fourth,
not everybody lives in the same house with the same budget. If you cant afford the PS2 version, then dont go putting it down and stating false facts.

and Finally,
If you didnt want us big bad bullies to contradict *I hope I spelled it right!*your opinion, or state our own opinions, THEN YOU SHOULDNT HAVE POSTED YOUR OPINIONS IN THE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS AREA IN THE FIRST PLACE!.

P.S.
I'm getting it for the PC, and PS2.

[Zurar]

I know for the majority of people, their decision on what version depends on money. There are a few out there who's decision is based on comfort and others it's graphics based, and the last but not least group...those that just want to play.

The simplest solution to make the game available to a larger number of people is to put it on 2 platforms, one that's fairly inexpensive yet lacks visual quality, and the other that is the exact opposite. Far as comfort goes, both versions can be comfortable, though the PS2 is easier to get this way...and in some cases cheaper.

To make it comfortable, s PC version requires a TV out video card and a VCR or multi-media TV with S-Video in if you'd rather play the game on your TV. It can also feel like the console as you can put a PS2 controller on it (requires a special adapter). However with the PC version through a TV, the highest you can put the resolution is 800x600 with an HDTV. 19" monitors are like a small TV and cost only about 150$ for a decent one that can reach resolutions of 1600x1200.

To make a PS2 version comfortable usually just requires the TV itself, and the other components mentioned to run FFXI. This version is probably easiest and fastest to setup.

As you can see, neither version is "better" than the other, they're both equal the way i see it. One's faster to setup and easier to setup for comfort, the other has better graphics but may take a bit longer to setup for comfort...if you even can set it up for comfort (some parents may not want you to have both the TV and Computer tied up at the same time...not a prob for those living on their own of course).

The easiest way to decide though, is this...sit in front of your computer playing a game for say, 2 hours. Then go and sit in front of your PS2/TV and do the same for about 2 hours...decide from there which one you enjoyed more. THAT is the way I would decide.

Now, can we please stop the finger pointing and namecalling and what-not? These boards were made for information, communication, and most of all...so people can have fun...not rip eachother's guts out verbally :sweat:

[Strider]

yeah your right

[GusVJr]

Yes.. Leave the gut-ripping to the monsters once you get the game on whatever platform you prefer!