MEGA COOL NEWS .. all about FFXI you wanna hear !

[ShadowHeart]

PvP, Na/Jp playing together and LOADS of other cool stuff !

Thx to Nekaru for providing this link in another topic !

http://www.gamers.com/news/1381896

[mrm83]

PVP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Yoko]

one word: AWESOME. Seriously. At LAST some good news!! (im not talking about pvp particularly, just the bunch of news there is in that article...)

So its official, jap and NA users will play together....now its almost certain that import chars will be able to go to the NA servers with a world pass.....so good news for some neh? ;)

[ShadowHeart]

Well, ill most likely create a new character on En servers (if there is such a thing) but what I hope, is that I can still be on ragnarok and keep playing there .. but in EN !

[Fox Excalibur]

I had been telling you American and Japanese players would be playing side by side since the begining, but nooooooooo, no one listenes to the fox.

YAY PvP omg!!!!!!! (and as i thought, they are waiting to put it in till it makes sence, since its players banding together now, as the story progresses, they will be adding it)


oh btw, im back, didja miss me? (since RO went open beta again, i decided to devote my time to playing that game... instead of spending my time on these forums all day XP, but now that some REAL news is coming out i hope to be here more to make sure i get it all)

[Django]

Mmm. :)

[Fox Excalibur]

whats with the 15 jobs plus 5 hidden jobs?????

[ShadowHeart]

Yeah, with the new jobs from expansion its 15, but i wonder what those +5's can be ... maybe something "not Final Fantasy" .. I hope .. It would be nice with some brand new classes ...

[Vejiita]

That's it I'm importing that game ! :) I was wondering because I didn't wanted to loose my character whent the NA version got here but now... :)

And too bad for the PS2 version, don't want to wait until Fev-March 2004 :mad:

And what a timing ! I go to Japan June 16 ^_^ yay ! Koube, here I come !

[Saken]

Heh, this is gonna be really cool. I bet the PvP system will be awesome there is nothing like PvP in an MMORPG. And besides that playing, with Japanese players is gonna be pretty cool too.

[Django]

The GameFAQs class battles from speculation by Square that aren't in the JP version now were Gunner (Similar to Chemist), Feng Shui Master (Geomancer), Blue Mage, Mime and dancer...Maybe those were the 5 hidden classes?

[ShadowHeart]

now wouldt that suck ... I dont wanna see Galka dancers /cries ...

[Hardedge]

Blue mage would be awesome!

[MadMe]

If you read more carefully it says: "Yes, it's got all the extra classes and areas from Vision of Zilaat, "15 jobs with five hidden jobs." so 15 jobs of which 5 are hidden. I think they mean paladin etc., but I might be wrong.:sweat:

[Etra]

So...I know this is a stupid question...but does that mean if I were to import the game I could us my JP account with the US version when it comes out? ^^;

[Yoko]

maybe...check this out: http://ffxionline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=121120#post121120

[Jei]

cool cool ^^

nyway i love my japanese friends i got already ^^ i'll have a hard time moving to USA servers ^^

[Bish]

Awesome news!

Wow, did anybody else get chills while reading this?

I'm hopelessly addicted to a game that won't be out for 5+ months!

[gotan25x]

omg it seems when a game cant get any more godly, it does. this WILL b the most uniqe mmorpg around.

[Cathy]

Sounds fine to play with the japanese together but still it spoils a bit the surprise, most jap/import people wil have high levels with high level armor.

No I wil see there armor/weapon when im walking in town instead finding it myself to discover how it looks like -.-

[ShadowHeart]

Well, chances are you will anyways, since there are so many armours, and you cant even get them all if you play 24/7 for a year ... so, boohoo (sorry, but thats the way it is) ... Were you planning on getting ALL AF's before everyone else?

[Cathy]

No I was planning on getting it with my friends not by strangers that donates or show it of.

And if I dislike the thought of it then its my buisniss though, and im not crying abouth it I just said its spoils a bit my fun so boohoo back to you.

[Shadowed]

:eek: .... PVP! JP and USA playing together! Dang, this game will be legendary now. Heck, something even better: JP and USA in a PvP battle! :biggrin:

Edit: Next step: PvP Wars!

[ShadowHeart]

Well, dont expect PvP before a yeah or two, when Square impletsn some war beteen races or something !

[ricky0060]

I worry. You guys all know japanese are very discipline, and most of them know english very little.. I worry there will be any communication misunderstanding....

[Anaki]

Until Final Fantasy XI "ends," we're not thinking of anything else. There's no need to go with a completely new game, a new story and a new start. With the hard drive, we can keep adding to this game as long as people want to play it.

THE END IS NEAR RUN >.< if ffxi does not end which it most likely won't with the monthly updates then BIG UPDATES and theres 15 jobs and 5 hidden ones interesting

[Talis]

my guess is

Blue Mage ( A must)

Dancer, Mime, Geomancer, and perhaps Calculator? Or maybe a new one they invented :)

[Pai Pai Master]

I worry. You guys all know japanese are very discipline, and most of them know english very little.. I worry there will be any communication misunderstanding....

Don't worry about that. Did you read the part about the translating tool?

[ricky0060]

Blue Mage? The one who can copy the skill of the enemies?

From FF history, ffxi has already had those most important jobs such like summoner, Dragoon, ninja etc... Square Enix needs to create more new jobs that didn't appear in FF history. From the old category, i am expecting Gambler and the one who can "copy" what the previous person did (sorry forgot the name)

[Yoko]

that was the mime. I'd really like to see the blue mages make a come back also....

[Shadowed]

Blue mage has been around, just not in the game.... Kimari, Quina, practically everyone in FF8, anyone who had the correct materia in FF7, Straigo....

[Reavis]

Well language converts are a pretty good idea on sqaure-enix's half but you can tell theres gonna be alot of stuff happening over the next year that'll change this game, trouble is will it be for the best :confused:

[Elite]

Yeah I got too adapted with the JP and importer friends, I dont want to just leave. I think I'll stay in Ragnarok till the end ^^;
This is good news for others that's been waiting.

[Nameless]

I really don't want to play with importers/japanese
I wanted to start on the american ragnarok (Ragnarok is the best name and I loved the ship and the sword(s)) and just start fresh.
And PvP is all well and good, but in most games people usually get understandbly so pissed off when then lose. And I doubt it will be implemented as the coluseum dream everyone had.
If it did make it in the form of a colusuem then great, but if we were with level 60 importers I would saty away from it.

I guess I'm selfish but I don't want a bunch of better players than me walking around and a dangerous PvP system.

[ShadowHeart]

Did you see the part where they said they wouldnt implent it before they had a good reason .... So dont expect it any time soon ... And there will be NO ENGLISH RAGNAROK ... If you look all theenglish pictures through from Sony's E3 site, you will see a "Welcome to ....." something NOT SUMMON like ! So there prolly will be like 5 new servers, not much more, because there are still servers which has a minimum of people playing, like Lashmi, where alot of peps have a hard time finding a PT !

[Dwimordene]

If the PvP is anything like it will be in World of Warcraft I don't think I'd mind it so much. There you have a choice on whether or not you want to participate. I've never been overly fond of battling other people. It causes a lot of anger and frustration. It also attracts a lot of those "immature and annoying" people who like to PK and cheat all to hell.

Some form of Dueling would be nice. Someone would have to offer the challenge and have the other person except, for there to even be a fight in the first place. If they don't except you can't battle, simple as that. The arena would be preferrable. That way it would be centered in one or two places and can't just happen anywhere. Party vs. Party would be better than one on one. Some classes just don't stand a chance against others, while the same classes would just exchange blows till one of them fell.

I'm hoping PvP will be implemented in the game as a choice, not something you can't avoid. If someone could just run up and stab me in the back, I would consider never playing this game again. To tell you the truth I wish they'd skip the PvP all together. It just doesn't seem to fit in this type of game. It would ruin the whole idea of cooperation they've been working so hard to build. I wouldn't miss it in the slightest.

They seem to be reluctant to activate it, which I am glad of. Hopefully they never will.

[ShadowBlade]

Hah PvP cool, but Square must have a good system, cause if you can just kill people randomly (cool if you do it yourself, but sucky if you get killed evrytime and still are lvl 1 cause of all the exp reduction) it will suck.
But a Party vs Party will be cool cause it's more tactical. You can then see if you and you're friends are atuned to each other.

=One Idea, Square must make voicecomunicators optional, like X-box live. Cause it will be much faster then typing and will make a difference in battles!!!=

O and the story maybe like Bastok declares war on San'doria.
Cause there still is a tense feeling in the world of Vana'diel.

But I will love PvP if it's done in the right way.

Maybe an all out war simulator--> territorial conquest.
50 Ifrits summoned, Heavens sign + blessing arround you. some backstabbing and explosions while the battle rages on.
That's my dream, to participate in such a magical war!!!

[ShadowHeart]

It would be cool if SEX made somekindda invasion of monsters to a town or something ........ I woul like that !

[Valerathon]

Well, maybe the way they'll implement PvP will be kinda like a mission system where you and your party go to an NPC in your city, get a mission to take control of a certain area/spot (picture like a fort or cave or top of a hill, etc; strategic location) for a reward/item/whatever, and then other people from other nations can challenge your hold on the area. So, you'd hafta hold onto it for (X) amount of time, and then you get the reward, but while you hold the location, you can be attacked...

How does that sound?

And personally, I like the idea of playing with the Japanese gamers. I think it'll work out well... I hope... as long as you don't have Anglophones being unwilling to meet the Japanese players halfway on communication.

[Hardedge]

Well, I for one am glad we all play in the same servers.

Some of the BEST times I ever had playing PSO were when I got the import for GC last fall. I used the word select/translate feature to communicate with Japanese players and had some of the best times I ever had on PSO. Many Japanese players are quite skilled and far better mannered than many of my fellow Americans are. Note: not saying all Japanese are better than all Americans, that would be silly and untrue, but the fact is: on average, Japanese players tend to be waaaaaaaaay more polite than American players, imho.

So, that is one of the many things I am happy about.

[ShadowBlade]

Valerathon that king of the hill thing you discribed wouldn't work cause if party A is on the hill then party B will say let them complete the quest will do it afterwards.

It will only work if Party B has a quest that needs them to take the hill from somebody else.

[Valerathon]

Well, what if:

a) Party A's quest is merely to physically stand on the "hill", without there being a battle for it;

b) the prize for Party A's quest is far better than any challenging Pary B's reward would be;

c) Party B needs to talk to an NPC (maybe a country's defense minister, or somone who would know about the tactical situation of the war b'n the countries, and what your nation wants to hold for strategic reasons) to see what "enemy" PTs are "holding", and select one to go challenge.

All I'm throwing out are more variables that Square could implement to make PvP workable. What are your thoughts? Am I on to something? Do you have more ideas? Please, I really want to hear what all of you think of this. :)

[DJ_Shirow]

Yeah, the mission PVP sounds like a very reasonable idea. That way Square/Enix provides your character(s) with a reason to combat the other players, and gives it a controlled environment so that you cannot just go around and kill anyone.

I would assume that these PVP style missions would be sideline missions, so if you never did them you wouldn't be missing out on too much. Hopefully they will also stagger the missions relative to your level, so you don't end up with a bunch of level 65 characters dominating the PVP forever. Have missions for a certain range of levels. Party PVP would definitely be the way to go though, as Joe Thief is not going to stand up to anyone on their own... put them in a party though and watch out.

I cannot see them implementing a lame PVP system that allows you to attack anyone. If for no other reason than they are Japanese. The players are very polite and damn friendly most of the time... much more so on average than NA I would say.

The big question will be what will be the repercussions of losing a PVP battle? Will your character die and have to be respawned, or will it be just considered a TKO style loss?

On interesting thing they could do for a duel system would allow the players to set the stakes of the match. Obviously this would not include experience points. But say you could set the match to a) first critical, b) x amount of damage, c) knockout, d) death, etc. And then put wagers down with the gil and items you have.

All-in-all I am not holding my breath for the PVP, I see them waiting a while before implementing it. No reason to do it at the moment.

It will be interesting to see the blend of playing cultures between the Japanese and NA players. Should be good for both sides. Heck, maybe everyone will pick up a little of each others' languages too... say for PTing and renkei and the like. Globalization through Final Fantasy. Good stuff.

I think I will just get a World Pass and invite my friends back in Canada onto the server I am on when I get it. Import some foreigners as it were. Beats having me move my character to a different server... especially after playing for months.

[Elvaan Dragoon]

Very cool yay good news :) but I still hate Sony but long live S-E!

[Tsikuro]

PvP is good if you wanna roleplay...i never had anything against it...it's fun!I'm gonna play EQoA to keep me busy...Maybe some1 on forums is high level and wanna PL a lv.12 Dark-Elf SK? :P
On server 1 by the way...maybe some of you guys who play EQoA just wanna party or sometihng?Anyway my name in game is Tsikuro...maybe send me a /tell or something?It would rock to party,alot of people in EQoA don't like to socialiase...

[Issara]

HEY!
you know for thopse hidden classes

lets try to guess them

I'm probably saying a druid,barbarian.....thats all I can think of
unless they make assain or harper or squire

lol remember squire from tactics, theres also dancer
lol mimic

theres tons of possibilities!

:confused: :biggrin: :sweat:

[Issara]

HEY!
you know for thopse hidden classes

lets try to guess them

I'm probably saying a druid,barbarian.....thats all I can think of
unless they make assain or harper or squire

lol remember squire from tactics, theres also dancer
lol mimic

theres tons of possibilities!

:confused: :biggrin: :sweat:

[Issara]

HEY!
you know for thopse hidden classes

lets try to guess them

I'm probably saying a druid,barbarian.....thats all I can think of
unless they make assain or harper or squire

lol remember squire from tactics, theres also dancer
lol mimic

theres tons of possibilities!

:confused: :biggrin: :sweat:

[Issara]

HEY!
you know for thopse hidden classes

lets try to guess them

I'm probably saying a druid,barbarian.....thats all I can think of
unless they make assain or harper or squire

lol remember squire from tactics, theres also dancer
lol mimic

theres tons of possibilities!

:confused: :biggrin: :sweat:

[Shintaku]

something i thought was really sweet was the size of the world. it may not be that big once you're in it but i just thought it was cool. since each area is about 2 square km and there are about 144 areas.....you do the math. the bigger the better ^_^

but i can picture the whole Japanese/NA on the same server thing will create some kind of rivalry or bitterness or something like that. i could be wrong (and i hope i am) but what i can see happening would be japanese playing with japanese only and americans doing the same. but i still think that the whole idea is freakin great. i cant wait to see what it's gonna be like.

the other cool thing about connecting the two countries on the same servers is that there will always be plenty of people around to group with

[Shintaku]

something i thought was really sweet was the size of the world. it may not be that big once you're in it but i just thought it was cool. since each area is about 2 square km and there are about 144 areas.....you do the math. the bigger the better ^_^

but i can picture the whole Japanese/NA on the same server thing will create some kind of rivalry or bitterness or something like that. i could be wrong (and i hope i am) but what i can see happening would be japanese playing with japanese only and americans doing the same. but i still think that the whole idea is freakin great. i cant wait to see what it's gonna be like.

the other cool thing about connecting the two countries on the same servers is that there will always be plenty of people around to group with

[Shintaku]

something i thought was really sweet was the size of the world. it may not be that big once you're in it but i just thought it was cool. since each area is about 2 square km and there are about 144 areas.....you do the math. the bigger the better ^_^

but i can picture the whole Japanese/NA on the same server thing will create some kind of rivalry or bitterness or something like that. i could be wrong (and i hope i am) but what i can see happening would be japanese playing with japanese only and americans doing the same. but i still think that the whole idea is freakin great. i cant wait to see what it's gonna be like.

the other cool thing about connecting the two countries on the same servers is that there will always be plenty of people around to group with

[Shintaku]

something i thought was really sweet was the size of the world. it may not be that big once you're in it but i just thought it was cool. since each area is about 2 square km and there are about 144 areas.....you do the math. the bigger the better ^_^

but i can picture the whole Japanese/NA on the same server thing will create some kind of rivalry or bitterness or something like that. i could be wrong (and i hope i am) but what i can see happening would be japanese playing with japanese only and americans doing the same. but i still think that the whole idea is freakin great. i cant wait to see what it's gonna be like.

the other cool thing about connecting the two countries on the same servers is that there will always be plenty of people around to group with

[Issara]

North America has Canada to you know!!!
lol

it would be 3 countries!

[pat_trick]

Unless they do the PVP correctly (with only willing participants), I am sad to say that I probably won't be playing this game. Overzealous players going around slaughtering others significantly reduces any attraction I had to the game.

Here's hoping that they do this right, and don't mess up the entire game.

[EliteYuna]

If someone could just run up and stab me in the back, I would consider never playing this game again.

LOL :spin:

Hmmm the 5 new jobs...if its anything squaresoft it might be new or possibly some jobs from FFX-2 like the Gambler(Lady Luck) or the maybe Berserker, or Dark Gunner, or Gunner or Item Shooter, or even if Square wants to do something wacky they could have one of the hidden jobs as Mascot also from FFX-2...that be freaky seeing a huge mog or animal thingy from FF walking around town...or maybe they will add Songstress job also from FFX-2, bards that instead of using instruments use a mic and dance moves, like a combination of the bard and dancer class.......hmmm maybe they add those.

[ZERO]

Do they mean 15 jobs plus 5 hidden or 15 total? hmmm, lets see...

1. Warrior
2. W. Mage
3. B. Mage
4. R. Mage
5. Theif
6. Monk
7. Ranger
8. Bard
9. Beastmaster
10. Paladin
11. Dark Knight
12. Ninja
13. Samurai
14. Dragoon
15. Summoner

+5? yeah, that must be what they meant. More than likely you are required to reach certain lvls of the above classes for you to even have access to the job-attaining quests. I cant wait until someone stubles upon the new classes!

[omnigene]

"Hidden" probably means that you have to do the quest to get them. So they might be talking about the advanced jobs we have now.

[ZERO]

Originally posted by omnigene
"Hidden" probably means that you have to do the quest to get them. So they might be talking about the advanced jobs we have now.

nope cant be. they said 15 AND 5 hidden jobs. that would imply that the hidden jobs arent included in the existing 15. also, they said there were 5 hidden jobs while there are 9 advanced jobs.

[omnigene]

I read 15 jobs with 5 hidden jobs, they need to be more specific. maybe there is a different part I missed that says 15 jobs and 5 hidden jobs.

[ZERO]

either way, it still dosent change the fact that there are 9 advanced jobs, ya know?

[omnigene]

Yeah thats cool. I'm not complaining if there are more jobs ^^ I hope you're right.