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WNxDHare3
04-22-2008, 10:12 PM
ONLY FOR WORLD: HADES

The clan Warrior Nation [WNx] is recruiting members for its Final Fantasy XI Online section. My IGN is Hellbound, contact me if you are interested in joining, or have any questions.

Link Pearl is handed out upon joining.

Website: Warrior Nation™ Video Gaming Network (http://warriornation.net)

IfritnoItazura
04-23-2008, 12:11 AM
Is this a commercial advertisement or a real linkshell? :huh:

OP's handle looks like it's meant to convey the "WNx" branding, the site linked has trivial amount of FFXI content. (Three paragraphs?) No useful info on the LS itself, either.

Thumb's down.

dirtyclown
04-23-2008, 12:26 AM
Keylog'd.

Sevv
04-23-2008, 12:35 AM
Is this a commercial advertisement or a real linkshell? :huh:

OP's handle looks like it's meant to convey the "WNx" branding, the site linked has trivial amount of FFXI content. (Three paragraphs?) No useful info on the LS itself, either.

Thumb's down.

Your rating linkshells you don't know.

Thumb's down.

Didn't know social linkshells had to have a bunch of info all over there site, oh no Zeiro we are doing it wrong.

To the OP good luck with your linkshell.


Keylog'd.

I lol'd

WNxDHare3
04-23-2008, 05:38 AM
This is an actual clan for multiple games, I specifically stated, any questions about it, let me know, not, go to the site for more info, that is just a referance to my clan's Homepage.

Like I said above this would be joining an actual clan, Linkshells are given out upon joining, the linkshell group itself is just starting out, as FF is a new addition to the WNx Clan, in time, we will be setting up a number of social events.

I will be on later today for more questions.

Aksannyi
04-23-2008, 08:48 AM
How was he able to bypass the URL filter with his first post?

Aside from that, I'm on Hades but I'm good. {Thanks for the offer, but I'll have to pass.}

Icemage
04-23-2008, 09:29 AM
I'm aware of Warrior Nation. I've encountered them in other games. They're probably the most ... hmm... how shall I put it... enthusiastic (?)... online guild as far as recruitment and proselytization.

Even so, as far as I am aware, they are a legitimate entity, and this thread is in the right place for it.


Icemage

Sevv
04-23-2008, 09:47 AM
Umm I think it was one of the permissions ping messed up, and never got around to fixing lol =P

IfritnoItazura
04-23-2008, 12:05 PM
I'm aware of Warrior Nation. I've encountered them in other games. They're probably the most ... hmm... how shall I put it... enthusiastic (?)... online guild as far as recruitment and proselytization.

Even so, as far as I am aware, they are a legitimate entity, and this thread is in the right place for it.

My appologies, then; I'm not used to Linkshells which advertise for recruitment, but send people to a multi-game "portal" of some sort instead of its own forum/website.

Mhurron
04-23-2008, 12:14 PM
They're probably the most ... hmm... how shall I put it... enthusiastic (?)... online guild as far as recruitment and proselytization.
Trying to say things nicely gets in the way of the message. Are you saying they're like the Heaven's Gate of linkshells?

Murphie
04-23-2008, 12:22 PM
I already have my black track suit and white sneakers.

Omgwtfbbqkitten
04-23-2008, 12:25 PM
My appologies, then; I'm not used to Linkshells which advertise for recruitment, but send people to a multi-game "portal" of some sort instead of its own forum/website.

Welcome to the world of clans. While this is a post of a linkshell, its just part of a larger clan site. It doesn't diminish the LS's relevance to this forum in the slightest. They just hope they can pull you into thier other activities.

IfritnoItazura
04-23-2008, 12:26 PM
What is a "clan" in this context? ._.

dirtyclown
04-23-2008, 12:45 PM
What is a "clan" in this context? ._.

A group of gamers that have an online presence across multiple vidya gaems. Take the GOONION for example. They're everywhere.

WNxDHare3
04-23-2008, 03:09 PM
Yes, like I stated above, we are a large clan, we all play many many games, many many members, and there is a section within the clan dedicated to Final Fantasy, for the most of us, we are experienced gamers, and experienced in FF, but we do accept players who are knew, as we will attempt to help them learn more of the game..

This section of FF in Warrior Nation is different from the last one, probably the ones you are referring to Iceman, they kinda stopped playing, so I took over, and am attempting to recruit members, in a different way, as I hear the last section were a little rambunctious. We currently have about 15 players in the section.

Go ahead and post on here if you want to join, I will be unavailable otherwise. You can also send me an email.

Kittyneko
04-23-2008, 04:11 PM
Guilds, clans, linkshells, about same thing.
While this is a nice idea for a lot of games such as Halo, Counterstrike and what not. For FFXI, this is going to be a lot harder.
Many people get together in a linkshell on FFXI because they're friends and meet up. For that to work, you need dedicated FFXI players on the same server.

Well, I'm interested how it's going to work out on FFXI. :) Make sure you get them all to join your usergroup here. ;)

Murphie
04-23-2008, 05:16 PM
Guilds, clans, linkshells, about same thing.
While this is a nice idea for a lot of games such as Halo, Counterstrike and what not. For FFXI, this is going to be a lot harder.
Many people get together in a linkshell on FFXI because they're friends and meet up. For that to work, you need dedicated FFXI players on the same server.

Well, I'm interested how it's going to work out on FFXI. :) Make sure you get them all to join your usergroup here. ;)That's why it's posted in the Hades forum. For Hades players of FFXI on Hades who are looking for a linkshell on the Hades server.

WNxDHare3
04-23-2008, 05:29 PM
Yes, this is a Hades only clan/LS, we have attempted other servers in the past, but somehow, that splits the section up pretty bad, and lowers inactivity.

I certainly hope this works, I have put a LOT of time and effort into it so far, and am not wanting to stop there, nor let the section slip like that, so if it doesn't work, I will fight it.

Many MMO's are easy for clans, as FFXI goes, it is difficult, as it is a very laid back game, and there is already a LS option, I would like to add to this option, by adding a clan to the background, as well as a very organized thread, schedule, etc..

BTW... I see many players on the forums here, that I see all the time in game xD, very cool.

Kittyneko
04-23-2008, 05:40 PM
That's why it's posted in the Hades forum. For Hades players of FFXI on Hades who are looking for a linkshell on the Hades server.

I was pointing out that unlike everyone of Counterstrike or Halo, only FFXI players of one specific server could join. ;)

dirtyclown
04-23-2008, 05:41 PM
I was pointing out that unlike everyone of Counterstrike or Halo, only FFXI players of one specific server could join. ;)

But we already knew that. >.>

Murphie
04-23-2008, 06:18 PM
I was pointing out that unlike everyone of Counterstrike or Halo, only FFXI players of one specific server could join. ;)

I'm not sure why, since, as I pointed out, Hades subforum.

Kittyneko
04-23-2008, 07:42 PM
I was pointing it out because I was pointing out the difference between that and other games, making it harder to start a clan, exactly like he said:

Many MMO's are easy for clans, as FFXI goes, it is difficult, as it is a very laid back game, and there is already a LS option, I would like to add to this option, by adding a clan to the background, as well as a very organized thread, schedule, etc..

Murphie
04-23-2008, 07:42 PM
If you say so.

dirtyclown
04-23-2008, 08:15 PM
I was pointing it out because I was pointing out the difference between that and other games, making it harder to start a clan, exactly like he said:

But why would you need to point something out that's already apparent to everyone involved?

WNxDHare3
04-23-2008, 09:08 PM
So that the illiterate, don't have any trouble :D

Kittyneko
04-23-2008, 09:10 PM
If it doesn't need to be pointed out for you, you can just ignore it. ~.~ You don't have to point out the point that you don't need that point pointed out for you.

IfritnoItazura
04-24-2008, 03:19 AM
Many MMO's are easy for clans, as FFXI goes, it is difficult, as it is a very laid back game, and there is already a LS option, I would like to add to this option, by adding a clan to the background, as well as a very organized thread, schedule, etc..

FFXI has a pretty insular culture, IMO.

Heck, I'm already slightly put off by the idea of someone trying to impose a "clan" and "section" structure over a Linkshell--and I don't even know what a "clan" or "section" really is. :P

On a more serious note, if you're trying to force an FFXI LS conform to an external order or culture instead of what flows naturally within the existing FFXI player mindset, you increase the chances of failure.

OP should already know this, but just in case: Linkshell in FFXI is a very general tool, but players (or at least NA players) tend to categorize (and organize) them into very distinct types. (Though, not all agree what those types are.) Players who join one type have vastly different expectations from players who join another, and each type of Linkshell have vastly different expectations from its members than others.

Social LS: The ubiquitous, most popular, and come in all sizes and shapes. Typical flavors: Friends and Family, We-Recruit-All, and Small.

Theme LS: Usually organized around a single interest or theme, such as role-playing, race specific (e.g. Mithra only), crafting, etc. These are distinctly in the minority. Obviously, each sub-type appeals to a very specific sub-set of the population, and has its particular expectations.

Event LS: Specialize in one particular activity which require large group cooperation or benefit greatly from reliable static members, such as Dynamis, Limbus, Salvage, Assault, etc. These Linkshells tend to be only populated during event time; its members typically have other Social and/or Endgame Linkshells to hang out in otherwise. Oh, and most members are Lv.75.

"Endgame" LS: Usually not dedicated to a single activity, but to multiple activities, and not all of which can be scheduled ahead of time or on a set recurring basis. The members are often expected to spend the majority (if not 100%) of their online time in-game with their LS, in order to be responsive to unscheduled opportunities as they come up. They used to be known as HNM LS, but with so much endgame activities added in the last few years, HNM hunting is now really just a subset of "Endgame" activities. Needless to say, everyone in these LS's have at least one job leveled to 75--with multiple Lv.75 jobs being the norm.


The point of all that, is that FFXI players don't really have a concept of a "Clan LS". :biggrin: You may want to advertise yourself as "We-recruit-all" Social/Theme LS, interested in members who like many video games. That, and start adopting FFXI terminology.

That way, people may have a better idea of what kind of LS it is you are trying to recruit for.

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Is there something wrong with me? When I see "clan", my first reaction was "Which clan? Lee's? Lin's?" Then I remembered I live in US, and my second reaction was "Er? KKK? Huh?" :wasted:

WNxDHare3
04-28-2008, 04:52 PM
lol, I understand your reaction, I have heard that quite a few times.

Thing is, I know there are multiple LS styles, but one that has began, which before introducing the idea to my own clan, I noticed, are Clan based LS's. The numbers are insignificant, but there are still a few. The number, as I have noticed, has risen a bit in the few years I have been playing, and I figure I should go ahead and join the race..

I understand FFXI terminology, but to say this is a Social LS would be a major fallacy, as, atleast to this clan, the LS, fuctions, requirements, expecations, etc. Are different from that of a Social LS, I wish to be quite blunt, so no one mistakes this for a simple, get together LS. Myself and the members represent the Warrior Nation Clan, and I wish for those wishing to join, to have the right idea joining, so they will represent the clan as well, in the best manner.

I understand what you mean by, I will basically be tampering with the function of an LS, or the "flow" of FFXI, this is not my intention. I'am merely offering an external source to the members, it is their choice to participate with the rest of the clan with Forums, Events, Activities, etc. I feel that joining a clan with a Forum and such, is just like an LS, yet much more populated, much more organized, and all in all much more fun to a player, once you get into the Clan mindset. There are a number are extras that come to joining the clan, you are not simply joining an LS with a bunch of crap, excuse my language, attached to it, but are joining a large community, aimed at gaming, helping gamers, informing gamers, basically, a game haven.

Like I said, the forum and such are actually a bonus to joining, it is not like you have to buy a WN shirt, run out with a sign and chant WN or DIE, were just a bunch of gamers having a good time.

IfritnoItazura
04-28-2008, 11:44 PM
I understand FFXI terminology, but to say this is a Social LS would be a major fallacy, as, atleast to this clan, the LS, fuctions, requirements, expecations, etc. Are different from that of a Social LS, I wish to be quite blunt, so no one mistakes this for a simple, get together LS. Myself and the members represent the Warrior Nation Clan, and I wish for those wishing to join, to have the right idea joining, so they will represent the clan as well, in the best manner.

Well, I have to say then from what you've posted, I wouldn't have a clear idea what a "new recruit" would get himself into. ._.

I mean, what do you even mean by "event" when it comes to FFXI? To me, "event" means a gathering of people who signed up to do a specific thing at a specific time, usually implying or specifying a particular party/alliance configuration and battle plan.


I understand what you mean by, I will basically be tampering with the function of an LS, or the "flow" of FFXI, this is not my intention. I'am merely offering an external source to the members, it is their choice to participate with the rest of the clan with Forums, Events, Activities, etc. I feel that joining a clan with a Forum and such, is just like an LS, yet much more populated, much more organized, and all in all much more fun to a player, once you get into the Clan mindset. There are a number are extras that come to joining the clan, you are not simply joining an LS with a bunch of crap, excuse my language, attached to it, but are joining a large community, aimed at gaming, helping gamers, informing gamers, basically, a game haven.

Like I said, the forum and such are actually a bonus to joining, it is not like you have to buy a WN shirt, run out with a sign and chant WN or DIE, were just a bunch of gamers having a good time.

I guess the scale may differ, but my "social" LS organize (in-game) events--I don't mean "everyone gather now because I thought of something 5 seconds ago", I mean planned out in advance, who bring which jobs, alliance organization, discuss how to do the fight (often with reference to past attempts).

We plan out many those large group events weeks in advance (sometimes months in advance, like the Shen/Reverend Mail event), and had some activities which are multi-staged (Fomor Codex farming week > Swift Belt week) or done over periods of weeks (multiple runs for Soboro Suhehiro and Rostrum Pumps). Oh, and some members are organizing Limbus runs with eyes on eventually doing Proto-Omega runs, and we're in the middle of setting up Salvage operations.

That's the "social" LS.

I also have an event/endgame LS which focus even more on organized events. The event/endgame LS and the Dynamis ("event") LS I'm in both employ open-book point systems to ensure fair distribution of items from "raids", if that's any indication of anything.

Each the three LS has a forum, used to plan out events and more. On each of the forum, there are serious stuff for strategies such path to take on raids, key points of difficult targets, battle plans, etc., as well as the lighter but obligatory "Hey I found this on Youtube" threads.

All that organization, without the complexity of multi-game forum or distraction of a "clan" overhead; forums, events/activities, organization--those are in my FFXI days, everyday, sans clan. :P I'm pretty sure there are other well organized linkshells as well; some even have out-in-the-real-world meetings and such.

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The point is, don't underestimate Linkshells in FFXI; not all of us just use LS as a chat channel to trade jokes (though I am rather fond of bad puns). At least, don't just assume you're better than we "merely linkshell" people are. :biggrin: We have good times, too.

Peace.

Ellipses
04-29-2008, 07:22 AM
I'm not sure why, since, as I pointed out, Hades subforum.
There are subforums here? I thought everything just went under "New Posts."

Murphie
04-29-2008, 08:16 AM
Your face goes under New Posts.

Ellipses
04-29-2008, 08:18 AM
Like I said, everything.

Ziero
04-29-2008, 08:46 AM
Didn't know social linkshells had to have a bunch of info all over there site, oh no Zeiro we are doing it wrong.

To the OP good luck with your linkshell.

Doing it wrong is what my LS does best!

WNxDHare3
04-29-2008, 04:33 PM
I never said anything bad about other LS's I was merely stating the fact that mine was a Clan LS, which is much more organized than a regular LS, which is true, you may have forums and such for your LS, that is nice and all, but the amount of time and effort that the hierarchy of the clan and section put into getting this game into the clan is unbelievable, there is a pride that comes with this clan and LS included, so we really put time into what we do, like a second job.

Yes, "EVENTS" include many things, I' am glad you pointed that one out, but it is nice to have a place to hold the list of events, you may not think it up 5 seconds ago, but its different to say, "HEY LS LETS DO SOMETHING TOMARROW!!!" And "Hey guys, how about in a few weeks, on this date we camp this NM, or w.e, at 9 o clock, who wants to sign up?"...

You are misinterpreting the idea of a clan, yes there are a number of other games on the site, but it isn't exactly hard to scroll down a bit to find the game you are in, no to mention, all the games are set up and organized in game type, each games forum is organized, and constantly checked..

All in All, I never underestimated any LS, I have been in quite a few social LS's and I love them all, they are all rather fun, but none as involved, organized, and rewarding as joining a Clan LS, you may have your doubts, but it is a mere fact, or opinion, backed by many, that I' am stating. I' am happy for you, that you have nice organized LS's, just don't dog on mine, just because you don't like the idea.

Icemage
04-29-2008, 05:41 PM
If I might make an observation, the best linkshells in FFXI don't need to advertise. They attract members by reputation or word of mouth.

Any clan or guild that just lets "anyone" join is doomed to mediocrity in FFXI, as letting undesirable or incompetent people stick around brings down the whole group.


Icemage

Duncan Idaho
04-30-2008, 12:18 AM
From the way you describe the "Clan" you are starting, it reminds me of a ls that i knew of on Fairy about a year ago. They were thoroughly organized and required you to participate before you could ask for things in return. They even had a listing on their web page on what missions, items, quest they would do for non members for a price.... Some of the harder missions even required you to bring certain jobs that would contribute to the effort or else.

I saw how this type of ls was good for some what established established players, it really did nothing for new players or people that want to learn how to do their job better. I knew many players going through mid levels for the first time asking for help from this group (while being a member of it) that eventually were kicked out for not contributing an equal or greater amount than what they were asking for.

I guess the point I am getting to is don't over organize it to the point that it is run like a business. That really takes the fun out of the whole game. I have been in many shells that organize to get things done and really enjoyed them. Any MMO would be pointless without friends to play with. So be sure to concentrate on the "Friends" word and the rest should be cake

BTW that ls disbanded after much much drama that was know server wide, so yes word of mouth does carry a lot of weight imo.

IfritnoItazura
04-30-2008, 01:34 AM
just don't dog on mine, just because you don't like the idea.

Didn't mean to "dog" on your LS (would be hard to, anyway, since so little solid info is available), but I'll admit to be mildly offended by the way you dismissed (non-clan) linkshells in one sweep.

I am curious about what events did your clan LS organized in the past few months? What about up coming events? (I tried looking around your forum/website, but there seems to be no info beyond a list of "game leaders". Guess the info is members only or something?)

It'd interesting to have a more concrete comparison of how similar you are to a typical LS, and how different.

Omgwtfbbqkitten
04-30-2008, 02:02 AM
I'm still not seeing the problem everyone seems to be having with the topic.

It's a clan, FFXI is one of the games they play. This linkshell is an extention of that clan that plays other games and thier "events" somtimes pertain to playing Unreal or Battlefield 1942 or something else.

I will concede that unlike other MMORPGs, FFXI isn't quite a fit for people who want to casually play games together in a clan environment. FFXI has a pretty steep learning curve and takes a lot more commitment than most MMOs do, even for a pre-WoW MMO.

Still, its thier social experiement to dabble in, if he wants to try - let him. If it works, great. If it doesn't, he'll find out soon enough.

Ziero
04-30-2008, 04:38 AM
Just a question

Why are people making a big deal out of what the OP is saying? He's just advertising his LS just like the countless others who've done the same thing here before him. Other then being part of a "Clan" there's nothing new here, it's just another small LS starting out and looking for members.

WNxDHare3
04-30-2008, 02:53 PM
To Duncan, there is a wide variety of experience within the clan, we accept anyone, that is not a bad thing btw, we accept new players, and are willing to help them any way we can, but also set up events and gatherings for other players, within the required level. So, we are quite organized, but if you do not want to get into the whole clan thing, we accept that, you join, are active on the forums and such, then you don't have to do the events, bring whatever you want, we will only recommend what to bring. As I said before, once again, I did not "swipe" all LS's, I' am sure there are nice organized LS's I was speaking in general.

To Ifrit, like I have said before, I' am starting up the section within the clan, for those that don't understand, this means I' am still in the recruiting process, we so far have our own thread, and official sign up thread, when we a get a required amount of members, we get our own forum, currently, I' am the head of the "to be section", with a few helpers. As for events, we have only just started, so far it has only been NM's, lvling parties, and some quests. Some other members have started up Ballistas aswell as Promys, so there are more to come. I don't really understand what you want from me, I have given my comparisons, read them over if you would like, simply put? CLAN LS = Awards, Ribbons, Organization, Friends, Fun, etc, ask more about awards and such if you would like, REGULAR LS = Fun, Friends, Not a lot of activity, in comparison/in general.

To OMG, xD... Thx, yes this is quite the experiment, that many have tried/are trying, it has proved effective and fun, if the members are active that is. If it doesn't work, I' am ok with that, I tried, I will just continue playing.

To Ziero, yes thx again, it really is me just advertising my clan/LS, I didn't expect to be attacked for the idea, I have put a lot of time, effort, and work into getting this to work, and don't expect this to work out much differently from a regular LS. Recruiting that is.

IfritnoItazura
04-30-2008, 03:49 PM
To Ifrit, like I have said before, I' am starting up the section within the clan, for those that don't understand, this means I' am still in the recruiting process, we so far have our own thread, and official sign up thread, when we a get a required amount of members, we get our own forum, currently, I' am the head of the "to be section", with a few helpers. As for events, we have only just started, so far it has only been NM's, lvling parties, and some quests. Some other members have started up Ballistas aswell as Promys, so there are more to come. I don't really understand what you want from me, I have given my comparisons, read them over if you would like, simply put? CLAN LS = Awards, Ribbons, Organization, Friends, Fun, etc, ask more about awards and such if you would like, REGULAR LS = Fun, Friends, Not a lot of activity, in comparison/in general.
What I wanted was the details, to back up your claim that your clan LS is more organized than a "regular" LS. (And, you've finally provided some details; "more organized" isn't a comparison--it's a claim of superiority, sans proof.)

In other words, you have the "intention" to be more organized and better utilize the forum you have, but the clan LS is not there, yet. Your idea of a "regular" LS is pretty skewed, too.

It's not that I mind you having pride in your clan LS, it's the attitude "We're better than the rest" which bugs me--especially in light that your LS doesn't have much of a history to back up your claims, and well, even I probably have a more organized and active social (or "regular" in your term) LS than you do.

* * *

To potential would be members, this is the most concrete description of his clan LS the OP has provided:
As for events, we have only just started, so far it has only been NM's, lvling parties, and some quests. Some other members have started up Ballistas aswell as Promys, so there are more to come.
(Good to have truth in advertisement, no?)

IMO, that sounds like a perfectly fine "up-and-coming LS", and someone who joins should have an opportunity to help build up and better the LS, but probably shouldn't expect the capcity for attempting some of the more difficult/messy/annoying quests/NMs (e.g. Rostrum Pumps, Soboro Sukehiro, etc.) in the near term.

WNxDHare3
04-30-2008, 08:59 PM
I never said we were better then the rest, you seem to have a problem understanding this, I never lied about my advertisement at all, and I dont care about your LS's and they're "organization", please leave this thread for discussion about the linkshell, and actual discussion, please do not post criticism based on opinion, you do not know the facts, and that is intentional, I left contact information in my first post for those interested, so I can further explain.

Murphie
04-30-2008, 10:02 PM
Itazura, let it go. Jesus. You're the only one who has a problem with this, which should be an indicator that you're taking it too seriously.

TheGrandMom
04-30-2008, 10:40 PM
The OP is starting an ls and if you are interested in joining then please contact him. If you are on Hades , genuinely interested, and have a valid question pertaining to his ls then feel free to ask it.

WNxDHare3
05-01-2008, 03:02 PM
Thank you to you both. I certainly hope the recent "discussions" have not scared off any potential members xD

dirtyclown
05-02-2008, 01:52 AM
Thank you to you both. I certainly hope the recent "discussions" have not scared off any potential members xD

If I were on Hades, I'd definitely consider joining. Gaming community LSes ftw.

Sevv
05-02-2008, 02:26 AM
If I might make an observation, the best linkshells in FFXI don't need to advertise. They attract members by reputation or word of mouth.

Any clan or guild that just lets "anyone" join is doomed to mediocrity in FFXI, as letting undesirable or incompetent people stick around brings down the whole group.


Icemage

I have been in two open recruitment linkshells in my time in FFXI, both event based. While they may not complete major endgame accomplishments, but they had some of the friendliest auras in the game. As long as they have a strong leadership core who is willing to deal with the possible riff raff involved they will succeed.


Just a question

Why are people making a big deal out of what the OP is saying? He's just advertising his LS just like the countless others who've done the same thing here before him. Other then being part of a "Clan" there's nothing new here, it's just another small LS starting out and looking for members.

Because this is ffxio.

What I wanted was the details, to back up your claim that your clan LS is more organized than a "regular" LS. (And, you've finally provided some details; "more organized" isn't a comparison--it's a claim of superiority, sans proof.)

In other words, you have the "intention" to be more organized and better utilize the forum you have, but the clan LS is not there, yet. Your idea of a "regular" LS is pretty skewed, too.

It's not that I mind you having pride in your clan LS, it's the attitude "We're better than the rest" which bugs me--especially in light that your LS doesn't have much of a history to back up your claims, and well, even I probably have a more organized and active social (or "regular" in your term) LS than you do.

* * *

To potential would be members, this is the most concrete description of his clan LS the OP has provided:
As for events, we have only just started, so far it has only been NM's, lvling parties, and some quests. Some other members have started up Ballistas aswell as Promys, so there are more to come.
(Good to have truth in advertisement, no?)

IMO, that sounds like a perfectly fine "up-and-coming LS", and someone who joins should have an opportunity to help build up and better the LS, but probably shouldn't expect the capcity for attempting some of the more difficult/messy/annoying quests/NMs (e.g. Rostrum Pumps, Soboro Sukehiro, etc.) in the near term.

Forgot you were on hades, and you may not know this but there are plenty of FFXI linkshells who are part of bigger guilds. This isn't the first time any bigger guild has branched into FFXI.

Itazura, let it go. Jesus. You're the only one who has a problem with this, which should be an indicator that you're taking it too seriously.

Or just mad that someone is monopolizing the newbs again!


Thank you to you both. I certainly hope the recent "discussions" have not scared off any potential members xD

I hope not but you may be my new favorite poster just for dealing with all this crap.

WNxDHare3
05-02-2008, 03:29 PM
:] why thank you lol, I seem to have a habit of attracting unwanted attention/discussions, and the sort, thanks for the posts xD

WNxDHare3
05-16-2008, 08:11 PM
Just a nice update, we now have a forum for my FFXI Section.

Sevv
05-17-2008, 01:55 AM
Just a nice update, we now have a forum for my FFXI Section.

How is your linkshell doing btw? Just curious to see how you guys are making the transition into the game.

WNxDHare3
05-29-2008, 01:21 PM
Despite my own fears, quite well, the LS has a few very active low lvld players and about the same number off high end players, a bad gap, but we are doing well, about 20 people so far, and almost everyday I see a new face in the LS, thank you for asking, I' am having a lot of fun with it.