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WishMaster3K
03-24-2008, 04:12 AM
So Kanican (http://kanican.livejournal.com/) made another post (http://kanican.livejournal.com/26917.html) about Scholar, and how much the job has changed (mostly for the better).

If you missed the first post (http://kanican.livejournal.com/26917.html), you might want to check out his impressions of the job back in January.

I'm not going to regurgitate his info, because, good gravy, there is a lot of shit in that post, but here is the summary for those "tl;dr" people on the board.

Scholar VS Black Mage - Summary

In this part of the post, I compared Scholar and Black Mage in nuking situations using 4 criteria. Remember, these are comparing my Black Mage to my Scholar. I feel this is a pretty accurate comparison between a maxed out Black Mage and a maxed out Scholar, but it is not perfect! Here are the results of the discussion presented...

1) Damage to MP Efficiency

BLM is 14% more efficient than SCH normally, but SCH is 6% more efficient than BLM when using
Ebullience and 58% more efficient when using Parsimony.

2) Damage per Nuke

BLM deals 27% more damage per nuke, or kills generally 27% faster than SCH, and 60% faster under SP.

3) Ease of Use

BLM is easier to use simply because it lacks the abilities a SCH has to work with.

4) Resists on Highly Resistant NMs

BLM is able to easily reach the generally excepted Elemental Skill and INT to not get resisted. SCH cannot
even using the best gear available at this time; however, it is very close to reach this.

So if we go down the line, Scholar wins in damage efficiency easily if the Scholar chooses to use Parsimony spam. Black Mage easily wins in the speed and damage per shot department, especially under SP. Black Mage is also easier to use due to not having to deal with all the abilities a Scholar deals with. On resistive HNMs, Scholar cannot currently reach the tiers necessary to get unresisted nukes; however, it should be noted that in future patches this could easily change as it is so close. Also, Klimaform pretty much negates resists if the Scholar has it active, though it is difficult to use.

In any case, after I get PLD to 75, I'm totally raising SCH.

Unless I'm mistaken, Kanican said that he soloed all the way to 75, so that seems right up my alley.

Omgwtfbbqkitten
03-24-2008, 10:18 AM
Was anyone really that worried about BLM's spot on the Nuking food chain?

Lotta holes in the post, no accounting for Alacrity and they don't really say how Klimaform is "difficult to use". If you macro it right, there's hardly a delay between using a Black Arts Strategem and a nuke. Its very slight.

If I know in advance that the mob's weakness matches the day, I just use Klimaform between fights and possibly the Storm spell to go with it. Sublimation usually keeps my resting time relatively low.

Coinspinner
03-24-2008, 10:20 AM
Cool, numbers to solidify what we already knew. <3 Kaeko

Icemage
03-24-2008, 10:58 AM
There's also the issue of BLM/SCH, which, while it doesn't get Strategems as fast as a Scholar main, has quite a lot of burst damage power.

That said, SCH mains are quite acceptable nukers in their own right, especially if nuking with ice magics (Aquilo's Staff's +10 Elemental skill for the win).


Icemage

Malacite
03-24-2008, 03:12 PM
To be honest, I'm kinda sad that SCH has become the 2nd best nuker as opposed to RDM, but the job just brings so much to the table I can't really complain.

Oh yeah, and nothing is going to touch a BLM/SCH popping Alacrity + Burst II followed up by Alacrity + Freeze II with manafont up.

MrMageo
03-24-2008, 05:01 PM
SCH was always a better nuker then RDM, unless said RDM was completely decked out in Morigans , but your average sch vs your avg RDM will always see the sch hitting the numbers more consistently. Now they get teir 4's more acc and damage then a RDM so they are definite winners in that regard. (Not that I care they still cant solo 90% of the stuff a rdm can.)