Magus's Roll

[Callisto]

Sat down last night in PvP to test BLU Roll, here's what I came up with, verification would help if anyone feels like taking the time b/c I think these #'s disagree with both ffxiclo and BGwiki.

Anyways, the setup:

Caster: 75BLM/WHM, no gear, 74 INT and 32 MAB
Target: 75COR/WAR, 58 INT and 0 MDB
Other: 73 BLU(this may be why my #'s seem slightly different than others)
Control: Stone II, control = 120 damage with no MDB, base D of 91.


MDB without BLU in party:

I | 114 dmg | +4 MDB
II | 100 dmg | +20 MDB
III | 113 dmg | +5 MDB
IV | 110 dmg | +9 MDB
V | 109 dmg | +10 MDB
VI | 116 dmg | +3 MDB
VII | 108 dmg | +11 MDB
VIII | 106 dmg | +12 MDB
IX | 105 dmg | +13 MDB
X | 104 dmg | +14 MDB
XI | 96 dmg | +24 MDBMDB with BLU in party:

I | 106 dmg | +12 MDB
II | 93 dmg | +28 MDB
III | 105 dmg | +13 MDB
IV | 103 dmg | +15 MDB
V | 103 dmg | +15 MDB
VI | 107 dmg | +11 MDB
VII | 102 dmg | +16 MDB
VIII | 99 dmg | +21 MDB
IX | 98 dmg | +22 MDB
X | 97 dmg | +23 MDB
XI | 90 dmg | +33 MDBI really don't think these #'s are all correct, I had a few issues with the testing. First off, with a dINT of 16 Stone II was expected to come out to 124 damage, with a base of 94, not 120 with a base of 91. I'm not sure if things are calculated slightly differently in PvP, however the relationship between MAB and MDB should still be the same.

Another issue is with the large jump in value between rolling a III and rolling a IV without a BLU in the party, when that jump is not duplicated with a BLU in the party. I should have tried this with a larger nuke it seems, but even with Stone II it's pretty clear to tell which values of MDB make the damage possible and which don't.

And lastly, for rolling a VII w/o a BLU, I could not get the math to work to a specific value of MDB, it was between 10 and 11 leaning towards 11. At any rate I hadn't really seen any other tests for this roll out there, and while my results might be a bit off, I think it does still at least show the ballpark potency of the roll, it's a nice situational one, I personally got a ton of use out of it vs. the final ToAU boss, still use it when I know that Kirin is about to AF, and would assume it'd be nice for the tank party vs. JoL. If anyone cares to take some time to test this themselves and verify/shoot down these #'s please do.

[Kylen]

Hmm, magic damage in PVP is supposed to work differently than it does in other aspects of the game, but your numbers are pretty close to the Magus Roll data (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&u=http://ladyluck.holy.jp/cor/index.php%3F%25E3%2583%25A1%25E3%2582%25AC%25E3%25 82%25B9%25E3%2582%25BA%25E3%2583%25AD%25E3%2583%25 BC%25E3%2583%25AB) on the JP wiki. Most of your numbers are off from theirs by 1 MDB or so at most, so I think you'd be fine adding that data to the FFXI Wiki and BG Wiki (since most NA players don't know about or look at the jp one).

Thanks for verifying those Magus Roll numbers; it's something I'd been meaning to do for awhile but I never got around to making the time for it.

Magus Roll definitely makes us a decent addition to any tank party against magic spamming mobs, although still not a replacement for BRD's.

[Callisto]

Thanks, I feel a bit better that my #'s are close to that, I haven't seen that wiki before either.

Testing it was actually kind of funny, the 2 BLUs just kept running around killing each other, every now and then a rook would pop next to me and I'd pop a couple of petra in. The BLU on the other team thought'd it'd be funny to 1-shot me with SACA Cannonball while I was sitting getting nuked for the test...after I got back up I kept quarrying until I got a D.Wing, put my gear on and got up an 11 Chaos roll and Berserk, when he came back around I hit him w/ 990 Slug and a QD as he was chasing the other BLU.

Was kind of fun times for a nerdy science experiment.

[Kylen]

Haha yeah, the one time I convinced a BLM to come to Ballista with me to do some Magus Roll testing, they got bored about 10 minutes into it and nuked me to death. I gave up after that :(.

[Callisto]

Mine wasn't bored, but I think he was just watching TV while tapping a macro, b/c he'd keep nuking away when the roll wasn't even up and I was in red health.

Last night also reminded me why I quit Ballista, b/c my quarries always totally suck. I dug up maybe 4 petras in 90 minutes, 2 wings, and no revitalizers, but about 50 each of the barspell ointments and petra eaters.

That and people being wusses. When we finished getting the #'s for each roll we decided to do some straightforward PvP, as expected BLU absolutely wailed on my COR, not even a close fight...but then I say I'm going to change to RDM and everyone is tired all of a sudden. :(