Xbox 360 Controller on PC FFXI - HOWTO

[Muskie]

Greetings all, First post :P

A lot of people on my LS have been asking me about getting their 360 controllers plugged into XI for the PC, espectially with the LT/RT Issues and Rumble support.

So, I wrote up a guide, and Made it into a nice, informative, picture-filled PDF. :P

This is my first time qriting such a guide, so if anyone could point ut any problems, it would be great. :P

[Menelaus]

Great now you just made me want to go out and get a new EDIT: PC ok?

[WishMaster3K]

People who use an XB360 controller, via USB, to play PC games. FFXI doesn't recognize the Triggers as buttons, because Windows recognizes them as each as an "Axis," hence, the same rules apply to them as do Joysticks.

You can't map Joysticks to buttons in FFXI, so this guide helps you get around that.

Thanks, OP, this is a real pain to me, because I had to make the Start Button my Auto Run, and the Select Button my Screen shot.

It works, but it's annoying. I'm at work now, so I'll download the files and post here if I get it to work.

[Kailea]

nice guide but you need to note, that for 64-bit OS users, this wont work, because the drivers are unsigned -.- and at least Vista has been updated to where you cant disable the driver sign check.

[Jaice]

That is a really jazzy idea, you can finally have the graphic support of a PC and the feel of a console game o.o;; I may have to see about doing this for my toaster at home to appease my girly while she's playing FFXI ^^ this seems to be more than a step above those that figured out how to connect the Wiimote to their computer

[Kailea]

That is a really jazzy idea, you can finally have the graphic support of a PC and the feel of a console game o.o;; I may have to see about doing this for my toaster at home to appease my girly while she's playing FFXI ^^ this seems to be more than a step above those that figured out how to connect the Wiimote to their computer


would also like to note, that I would only do this if you already have a wired 360 controller, if you dont, just go buy a 20$ USB controller (most look like PS2 controller) and use that

[Moonlancer]

if i remember correctly, the play and charge kit WILL NOT transmit the data from a wireless controller. About 2 months ago i did the same thing, except i had to buy a wired controller to make it work. now tho, im not sure what kind of wireless the controllers use, but my PC had no wireless support. I am assuming tho that maybe it would work if it would pick up the signal and recognize the controller. i just remember that the kit ONLY charges, it does not transmit data.

[WishMaster3K]

Moonlancer, unless I'm mistaken, there is a USB attachment that makes the wireless XB360 controller compatible with PCs. It's not on the Gamestop site, but I'll Google it later when I get home.
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And if you would read posts (specifically, edit notices) more often, you wouldn't make yourself look like a hypocritical dumbass.

Because based on the current state of the thread, I was supposed to know the exact content of a post that was made six days prior to me even knowing the existence of said thread. In addition, there was no notation of the infraction that was edited, aside from an in-post message that only left an opportunity for implication, rather than base evidence.

But my apologies. I see (albeit, slightly) your point.

[Feba]

Because based on the current state of the thread, I was supposed to know the exact content of a post that was made six days prior to me even knowing the existence of said thread

You don't need to know the exact state. Simple context would've been enough. Hell, even if it wasn't incredibly obvious what was said from context anyway, the simple fact that nobody had mentioned a CPU before my post, and a post before mine had been edited is enough to disregard it.

[WishMaster3K]

If you want a hug, Feba, you can PM me anytime.

[Deeke]

I'm giving out a lot of manlove today over people fixing my tech-newb hangups.

Muskie? I totally love you.


(I've attempted this previously. Couldn't for the life of me figure out how to use the 'triggersaredigital' file within the control panel.

Thank yeh! <3

[WishMaster3K]

Muskie, It worked!

You can place another order of Manlove CC: Renarudo, whenever you please.

I even got the damn Rumble to work. Now I'll know when Tremor Ram is nearby.

Man, I forgot what causes Rumble in this game, it's been like 2 years since I've had it, lol..

[Jaice]

Which would be a prefered controller to use for the PC? There are one's that look like the ps2 controller but that seems to be kind of limiting... oh well i'll just pick up a usb controler this weekend and give it a go :)

[Kailea]

Which would be a prefered controller to use for the PC? There are one's that look like the ps2 controller but that seems to be kind of limiting... oh well i'll just pick up a usb controler this weekend and give it a go :)


why would it be limiting? the 360 and PS2 controllers, have the same amount of buttons

[Jaice]

Limiting in general... I use a keyboard ^^; my girlfriend is a huge console gamer tho I personally just wouldnt be use to the console controller :D

[Kailea]

Limiting in general... I use a keyboard ^^; my girlfriend is a huge console gamer tho I personally just wouldnt be use to the console controller :D

oooh ;p

well seeing as how FFXI was made for PS2 first, this is an MMO that plays better for most people, with a controller, only thing you need a keyboard for is talking

[Feba]

No, Jaice, you're right, the keyboard is more usable.


The controller is for crazy peoples.

[Moonlancer]

i use a 360 controller and a keyboard, i switch back and forth o.O

[Kailea]

i use a 360 controller and a keyboard, i switch back and forth o.O


yeah same here, been useing a USB PC controller and keyboard for 4 years now ;p

[Bluecat]

oooh ;p

well seeing as how FFXI was made for PS2 first, this is an MMO that plays better for most people, with a controller, only thing you need a keyboard for is talking

I thought FFXI came out for PC first in 2002? and then ps2 in 2003? I used to own the ps2 version back then, they had it for PC before that. But anyway I also have a USB controller that I just bought, so now I can rejoin FFXI and have fun on my laptop! :D One more thing, even though the 360 and ps2 controllers have the same amount of bottons, they are in different spots, I can play a playstation blind folded, give me Xbox controller and I am lost in space. (so for me it would be limiting.)

[WishMaster3K]

Bluecat, it was originally a JP PS2 Title.

Then came out for Windows, then came out for NA PS2, then came out for EU PC.

[Muskie]

-pokes his head in- Well then. I got some replies. awesome. Thanks for the Kudos, guys.

[Edgetheninja]

http://x360wc.tripod.com/index.html

use those drivers to make your triggers into buttons to beable to map in the ffxi controller config. You will have to go into Control Panel>Controllers and edit the buttons but that also allows you to map the guide button on the wireless 360 controller to a button. Also if you are using the wired 360 controllers there is a forum that has custom drivers for that too at

XBCD - XBox Controller Driver Forum (http://redcl0ud.1.forumer.com)

[Kittyneko]

It's still a fact then that the "Play & Charge Kit" cable does not transmit data?

[TheGrandMom]

/em gets out the ban stick!

/em smacks Edge soundly with it...

[Guyver03]

It's still a fact then that the "Play & Charge Kit" cable does not transmit data?


That is correct, it does not allow it to be used as a wired controller.


Microsoft currently does not support it to be used as a wired controller, however it does transmit data letting the host know that it is a wireless controller via a Play and Charge kit.

Xbox 360 accessories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_accessories)


There's also multiple forum posts, and a few qood ones from the XNA boards, that expand on this and confirm that it can't be used to make your wireless controller a wired one.

[seiyaa]

Thank for giving the advised Muskie ^^, this is really helpful, I got my xbox controller yesterday and been trying to make it work all day, now you show me the guide that is brilliant!!!

thanks ^.~

[doomshadow]

http://x360wc.tripod.com/index.html

use those drivers to make your triggers into buttons to beable to map in the ffxi controller config. You will have to go into Control Panel>Controllers and edit the buttons but that also allows you to map the guide button on the wireless 360 controller to a button. Also if you are using the wired 360 controllers there is a forum that has custom drivers for that too at

XBCD - XBox Controller Driver Forum (http://redcl0ud.1.forumer.com)


I used the JP driver for Vista 64 for a xbox360 wireless controller. I used the button config that Muskie had on the guide for FFXI Config.

I want to use the same exact settings as if playing on xbox360. I can get all the buttons working fine, but having trouble setting up the Movement and Menu controls.

The movement and menu seem to both be on the L-Stick and D-Pad. When I'm in game, moving with the L-Stick, the selection arrow that points down on your character keeps selecting/targeting anything in the direction I am moving.

Anyone figure out what settings you need to set, to have the L-Stick just on movement and D-Pad just on Menu and for selecting/targeting in game?

[Edgetheninja]

you have to do that in the ffxi controller config, on the right hand side there is Movement Camera and Menu

http://i32.tinypic.com/jaif02.jpg

[doomshadow]

I did use the FFXI config and setup up the movement and camera.

Here are my settings atm. The problem I am having is the L-Stick is set to X Axis / Y Axis, and I can't use that same setting for the D-pad.

The only setting that seem to halfway work is setting the D-Pad to Z Axis / Z Rotation. Then the D-Pad works seperate from the Movement and only moves Camera. But the problem is it only moves Left and Down, (NO) Up or Right.

[Edgetheninja]

I did use the FFXI config and setup up the movement and camera.

Here are my settings atm. The problem I am having is the L-Stick is set to X Axis / Y Axis, and I can't use that same setting for the D-pad.

The only setting that seem to halfway work is setting the D-Pad to Z Axis / Z Rotation. Then the D-Pad works seperate from the Movement and only moves Camera. But the problem is it only moves Left and Down, (NO) Up or Right.
I believe it is a vista problem with the drivers i have the same problem with x64 but in xp it works fine. I would suggest using xpadder and the default drivers like i do (xpadder can map keyboard keystrokes to the axis triggers with the default drivers)

[doomshadow]

Edgetheninja,

Whats your Xpadder settings look like, can you post some screen shoots.

Also do you need a 3rd party windowing program ? Becuase xpadder doesn't seem to work in FFXI with the official window mode on.

[Edgetheninja]

yes I use the windower but also with the xpadder you need to start up ffxi and then take out your battery, put xpadder to the front and then pop the battery in. With windower.net windower i just turn on my controller after i turn on my game and it works with xpadder instead of the battery trick

http://i32.tinypic.com/10f9md0.jpg

[CrashenX]

XBox 360 Wirless Controller working perfectly:

Previous tries:
Xpadder - having some problems with arrow keys mappings stepping on camera movements, macro pallets were slow
XBCD - no good for wireless

How I got it to work:
1) I first installed the Microsoft XBox 360 Accessories Software from here:
- Download Gaming Software (http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/gaming/download.mspx)
- Note: This is not really necessary but allows your computer to recognize accessory add ons like play and charge kit.

2) Then I downloaded the "English version of XBOX360 wireless controller" driver from here:
- http://x360wc.tripod.com/x360wc.en/index.html

3) Then to install go to device manager:
- Note: Following instructions are assuming you installed accessory pack; if not, steps will be similar but not same.
- There should be a section called "XBox 360 Peripherals"
- There should only be one device listed below if you don't have anything plugged in besides wireless receiver and controller on (I believe it is something like XBox 360 Wireless Controller or Receiver).
- Select this and choose to update the driver.
- Select the driver from the location you installed it at.
- Note: If this is not detailed enough, check out the readme that resides in the directory the driver is in.

4) Configure the controller:
- Control Panel -> Game Controllers -> Select Controller -> Go into Properties
- Play around in the Settings Profile to test it (see that triggers are mapped to buttons and force feedback works)
- Go to the Directional Pad tab and change the Pad function to Slider 1 / Slider 2 (this solves d pad config problems in the ffxi config)
- Go to the Buttons tab and change the ring of light setting to what ever you want (something to indicate that the controller is on). I chose "Flash then stay lit 1." This will not tell you battery power of controller, but you can always plug in your play and charge kit and continue to play if you suspect the battery is low ^^
- Adjust the force feedback if you'd like. Note the ffxi config will probably give you a really weak feedback vibration test but it worked great in game for me fighting buggards, etc.

5) Go to FFXI config tool.
- Map all your buttons.
- I mapped everything the same as the XBOX 360 control scheme since that's what I usually play on.

6) Everything should work.
- This is not a perfect step-by-step work for all, but if you play around with it you can get it to work with these drivers. If you follow these steps, and you are using Windows XP you shouldn't have any problems.

Good Luck! Hope this solves all your problems, and if you know who wrote those drivers, tell her/him I said thanks!!

[DJ-Syn]

Can someone please slap me with a clue stick?!

I have been trying everything posted here, and nothing is working for me. Trying to get a wired 360 controller to work on the PC, getting the trigger problem. Tried everything posted on these 3 pages, and still no help. Am I missing something?

Someone hit me up please playonline ID is DJ-Syn xbox live is DJ Synr Id even give you my phone number if you contact me. I just bought the game today. and the keyboard controls are fruitier then Richard Simmons sweating to the oldies.

[eticket109]

Can someone please slap me with a clue stick?!

I have been trying everything posted here, and nothing is working for me. Trying to get a wired 360 controller to work on the PC, getting the trigger problem. Tried everything posted on these 3 pages, and still no help. Am I missing something?

Someone hit me up please playonline ID is DJ-Syn xbox live is DJ Synr Id even give you my phone number if you contact me. I just bought the game today. and the keyboard controls are fruitier then Richard Simmons sweating to the oldies.

I was under the impression the trigger buttons aren't configurable for FFXI.

[WishMaster3K]

It's a wired XB360 controller, or are you using that Plug and Charge kit for your wireless?

I used to play on vista before I went back to XP, and everything works fine on both.

[DJ-Syn]

Im not sure the term for plug charge kit. If you are asking if I have a wire that charges my wireless controller while I play and can remove it to make it wireless again, Yes I have one of those, but I was trying to use my 360 wired controller. Do these make a difference? Is it easy to do the wireless with the corded charger thing?

[WishMaster3K]

Use the 360 Wired Controller. I don't know where to begin to troubleshoot for you, because I followed the step-by-step instructions and everything worked for me. :(

Tell us step by step what you do.

[DJ-Syn]

Ibefore anything i went on Playonline and asked a few people to help me. they all said drivers, so I went and got drivers from the microsoft site. then i started to google ' How to " posts. stumbled upon here, saw i was not the only Momo.

I followed Muskies PDF. instead of getting th 0.4.0.0 i got the latest version 0.9.0.0 went to device manager, and didnt see the xbox options in the list. so i said ok , well maybe its invisable ( lol i know ). Then i continued on with the pdf at the part with the xbcd program. but was still not able to do anything. i check everyones posts on thee 3 pages tried their little bits of advice. and still nothing.

I have the 8mm loaded at this point lol.

I just bought this game. It had better be worth this hassel :p
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I also tried to down load those 4 links from the pdf, but the links gave me code lines rather than zip files. nothing i was able to download there.

[WishMaster3K]

I see what you did.

I really hate to tell you how to do this STEP FOR STEP, because it's in the damn instructions, but... here we go..

Firstly, make sure you have the XB360 controller installed on your system. Make sure you're clicking the right drop-down menus. If you're POSITIVE that it's not installed, you can get that from the MS Site. Then your computer should be able to recognize that you have the controller. The easiest way to tell is if you press the Home button in the middle and something pop ups on the bottom of your monitor screen.

Then go to the xbcdplus website and install XBCD. After you install XBCD, you can do the portion where you manually update the drivers (that's what the XBCD installer was for).

The rest of the instructions, as I stated before, are self-explanatory. Your problem was when you couldn't even get the system to realize you had a controller, so you were essentially modifying nothing.

Those text files are files specifically made for XBCD, and you open them via the program.

Really, this took me a whole 8 minutes to do. If you really want to pull the trigger, you might be doing the internet a favor (j/k, suicide isn't a recommended troubleshooting technique).

[DJ-Syn]

just did what you said, and it looks like the triggers are now working. going to test them out. will post back in a few minutes.
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well i hit apply on the XBCD setup Utility and it says make sure this device is installed, and i hit retry or cancel and i t keeps opoping up until it crashes. so i alt tabbed it wondering it it still worked, I got into the game and was unable to move around or do anything with the controller.
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actualy forget what ijust posted. I needed to turn on the xbox accessory utility program and now its working perfectly. Thanks for the help :D

[WishMaster3K]

No problem! Enjoy using your controller!

[Callisto]

Super necro b/c I lost myself...using the wireless 360 adapter, and I got everything but the triggers for macros working...anyone know how to set it up for FFXI? In the FFXI controller config I got everything about set up, minus the triggers which I can't figure out.

Wait I think I figured something out, restarting computer then may be back with more stupid questions.
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Yeah...followed everything but still no use of triggers on the wireless, is this just considered unfixable? If so this was a complete waste of money. :(