View Full Version : Helixes?
Cyprian
12-09-2007, 12:11 PM
As said by wiki "The spell does some amount of initial damage- Whatever amount of damage is done by the spell is how much damage it will cause on each of its ticks." Now how much damage are we talking about? 7? 20? What? because if these spells don't at least do the amount that Bio II/III do per tick, imo it would be almost worthless.
Also do the spells stack like the Ele DoT? and one more thing, the ability Modus Veritas (http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Modus_Veritas) suggests, to me, Helixes have a set amount of time, Do they?
Malacite
12-09-2007, 12:26 PM
They last a minute 30 by default I believe, someone did some good testing over @ BG.
http://www.bluegartrls.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=27007
In summary, every INT seems to add 1 point of damage to each Helix. And sadly no, they don't stack at all, just overwrite each other. Also casting the corresponding storm on yourself prior to the Helix will boost damage.
Still no word yet how well these spells work on HNMs. It sucks ass for SCH though that you can't stack them ; ; especially since you could stack up to 4 elements otherwise. But then I guess SE didn't want SCH soloing PSC Lebross Cavern >_>p
Cyprian
12-09-2007, 12:45 PM
They last a minute 30 by default I believe, someone did some good testing over @ BG.
http://www.bluegartrls.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=27007
In summary, every INT seems to add 1 point of damage to each Helix. And sadly no, they don't stack at all, just overwrite each other. Also casting the corresponding storm on yourself prior to the Helix will boost damage.
Still no word yet how well these spells work on HNMs. It sucks ass for SCH though that you can't stack them ; ; especially since you could stack up to 4 elements otherwise. But then I guess SE didn't want SCH soloing PSC Lebross Cavern >_>p
LMAO I never thought about that! XD They will be awesome at it especially /BLM :D
but 73 dmg is pretty nice ^^ even though it was on really low lvl mobs... But thanks for the link! I appreciate it! I'm glad that my Modus Veritas suspicion was correct, a LOT longer then I expected tho.
Lmnop
12-10-2007, 05:53 AM
I'm not gonna follow that link to confirm, but those tests were done naked + 1-2 pieces of gear to control the environment, right? So imagine what a SCH with incredible +INT, incredible +MAB gear could do. I don't think 70-80 on exp mobs is out of the question... We'll see.
hongman
12-10-2007, 06:48 AM
A level 35 SCH/BLM Taru in my LS reported 64 total Int without amazing gear.
At 75, I see 70-100 DoTs depending on Mob.
PSC Lebros Cavern with a group of SCH's is gonna be like cast a helix, go afk >.>
Tsrwedge
12-10-2007, 07:06 AM
Just to corroborate that, I'm at 66 INT (45+21) as a Taru SCH34/BLM with Seer's Tunic +1 Set, Black Silk Neckerchief, Morion Tathlum, 1x Morion Earring, Mcny. Cpt.'s Belt, Knowledge Ring, an Eremite's Ring, and no merits.
Rock Crusher looks to be very amusing indeed, unless it turns out those rocks are resistant to Helixes...
Sabaron
12-10-2007, 07:20 AM
I'm going to go out on a limb and hypothesize that, in Rock Crusher, the rocks will resist the basic damage of a helix just like they resist the basic damage of a regular nuke--The helix will hit for say 1-5 damage and you'll just get an extra basic DoT effect, but you'll still be getting much faster wall death.
Zempten
12-10-2007, 12:09 PM
Just throwing this out there. . . . has anyone MB a Helix spell? I wonder if the additional DMG from MBing a Helix spell applies to the regular ticks.
Malacite
12-10-2007, 04:28 PM
I'm sure the initial damage will get scaled back for Lebross Walls, but there's still Ebullience, Elemental Seal and Modus Veritas to back up a SCH.
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