/pup? pros/cons?

[Kerio]

Just like the title, what are the pros and cons of having a sub puppet master? If it's a sub job, is your puppet weaker stat-wise? What vital abilities do you lose that are beneficial in higher lvls?
I'm asking because i've never heard it discussed as a subjob before kinda like how beastmaster was never really considered good until people finally realized that it is in fact a good subjob too.

[IfritnoItazura]

It's widespread knowledge that /PUP is pretty good generally up to Lv.10. Beyond that, though, I know of this:

White Mage perspective: How to /PUP (http://www.killingifrit.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=161429&d=0).

[KingOfZeal]

Ita is completely correct on that note. /PUP is very helpful getting to level 10, especially if it's geared enough with attachments (stoneskin, flash, maybe even some of the frames).

However, after level 10 (as your main job level), the differences in skills for /PUP become apparent. It most certainly is viable if you plan on soloing, and on that note, Evasion Bonuses are not a bad thing. However, as a practical sub for a party-job (like any kind of mage or party-oriented melee), there are many better alternatives. This, of course, gets more true post-20, which is when I would stop considering /PUP on a regular basis.

It's really an interesting topic, though -- one I think you should look into. Just remember that the puppet's skill is capped at the puppetmaster level (a 20DRG/10PUP's puppet will have level 10 skills).

[Kerio]

It's widespread knowledge that /PUP is pretty good generally up to Lv.10. Beyond that, though, I know of this:

White Mage perspective: How to /PUP (http://www.killingifrit.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=161429&d=0).

That sure was a long article ; ; but i read through it all! So sub PUP... they say it's only good for low lvl things, and i guess i can understand that, but i still see some interesting possibilities for this job.
Which brings me to my next question... if was a bst/pup, could i have a charmed or jug pet out at the same time as my puppet? I wonder if the puppet is considered a pet like a summoner's summon is so i can't have both out. I've never seen it before, so i'm doubtful, but i'm still curious. I want someone to tell me the rules for this directly.

[Silent Howler]

Nope. Both count as a pet and you can only have one pet out at a time.

[Balfree]

10? Solo to 20 if you want, its very doable. Depending on your main job selection ofcourse. AND it might take longer than if you just partied, but sometimes, I prefer to avoid valk.

[Kerio]

Nope. Both count as a pet and you can only have one pet out at a time.

I thought so...