Grimoire

[Balfree]

Ok before I got nuts,

During some ventrilo conversations and podcasts, I've heard some people utter the horrible mispronounciation of the word Grimoire.

It's Grim~war

Not Grimoeer

Yes I'm picky. :thumbsup:

[Pillowcase]

Here here!

Grim·Wah is how I pronounce it.

[DakAttack]

Yous froms Joiseys?

[Balfree]

Grim-Wah yea.

Its a french word i believe.

Grimoire would rhyme with Moi ("me" in french)

[Ziero]

Yous froms Joiseys?
yous got a problem wit dat?

[Akashimo]

Grim-Wah yea.
Its a french word i believe.
Grimoire would rhyme with Moi ("me" in french)
Makes me think... Grim-lock, leader of the dinobots.....

[Ziero]

Makes me think... Grim-lock, leader of the dinobots.....
He's a badass >_>

[Dymlos]

I've always been pronouncing it "Grim-o-rey"

[DakAttack]

Grim-Wah yea.

Its a french word i believe.

Grimoire would rhyme with Moi ("me" in french)

Not really, the R would still be pronounced.

[Ellipses]

Ok before I got nuts,
Balfree's got nuts. Or will. At some point in the future.

Pendantic Francophoniness, go!

G - Okay, standard hard G sound like in "goose."
R - If you're going to be French about it, you have to hack this up like you're clearing your throat. In Spanish, you trill the Rs. In French, you growl them.
I - Eeeeee. Just like the vowel i in Japanese Romanization.
M - Standard, red-blooded M sound.
OI - Wa. Rhymes with the A in "father."
R - Again, you have to hack this one up, too. It's not completely silent, especially if it's followed by another vowel sound.
E - Mandatory completely silent letter. No self-respecting French word ends with a letter that's pronounced. The really good ones have five or six.

[Akashimo]

I motion for maybe this as pronouncation..
ゲリモウイレ。。。
ぼくはなにです。。。

[Murphie]

I don't understand how poeple can mispronounce something spelled so obviously. There isn't any other way to pronounce it, if you actually look at the letters (as Ellipses pointed out).

[Feba]

There isn't any other way to pronounce it,

Unless you, you know, never studied French.

Or even realized the word was French.

[Murphie]

Ignorance is never a valid excuse.

[Ziero]

Ignorance is never a valid excuse.
From now on I'm going to pronounce it Grime-or-ey, just for the hell of it

[Akashimo]

Doesn't mean the word is French in the game ;p
Its just common tongue to us, nothing seriously to research :O

[Feba]

Ignorance is never a valid excuse.

When referring to a word that maybe three of us have heard of outside of video games, yes, yes it is.


Next time someone asks you to go fetch a grimoire let me know. hell, my spellchecker even spits that back at me.

[Murphie]

I'm confident that more than three people have heard of the world. I've known about it since at least age five or six. Don't people read anymore? My god.

Also, your spellchecker fails.

Aka - Most of Sandoria uses french words, or words of french origin. Why would you suddenly assume that this word would be pronounced the way a stroke victim would?

[Pillowcase]

I had to look it up just now to find out what it is exactly but I could tell just by looking at the word how to pronounce it and that it looked like a French word.

[Balfree]

Balfree's got nuts. Or will. At some point in the future.

For the sake of teh funnies, I will not edit my post.

Other words i'm worried about:

Not 100% sure about Uggalepih but i'd pronounce it "hug a luh-pee". Please dont say "yug-ale-pie" next to me, ever.

Einherjar is actually a real word (norse mythology), im not sure how to pronounce it correctly, but it sure as hell aint "eye-n-her-jar", if anything its "Eyn-er-yar".

[Pillowcase]

For the sake of teh funnies, I will not edit my post.

Haha! It's funny because you started a thread that is essentially about people not talking correctly. >_<

Way to go ace! :thumbsup:

P.S. Go Flight of the Concords!

[Feba]

Don't people read anymore?

And do you propose that reading a bunch of nerdy fantasy books would give anyone an idea of how to pronounce a word, anyway?

[Balfree]

Haha! It's funny because you started a thread that is essentially about people not talking correctly. >_<

Way to go ace! :thumbsup:

P.S. Go Flight of the Concords!

My excuse is that its not about spelling but pronunciation!

My eyes are too fast to notice some mispells.

By the way its Flight of the Conchords.

AH! :P (did you do that on purpose or something O_o)

[Murphie]

I don't read nerdy fantasy books.

You really can't forget the h in Conchords. It changes the entire meaning!

[Feba]

I don't read nerdy fantasy books.

Then I'd like to know where you see Grimoire all the time. Also, still would like an explanation how someone would know the root language and pronunciation of the word just by reading it.

[DakAttack]

Einherjar is actually a real word (norse mythology), im not sure how to pronounce it correctly, but it sure as hell aint "eye-n-her-jar", if anything its "Eyn-er-yar".

"Come to me, my noble nine hairy arms."

I believe it's closer to Eye-n-hairy-ar.

[Murphie]

Who said I see it all the time? I simply said that I was able to figure out how to pronounce the word the first time I saw it. It's called critical thinking. Just because I don't speak French (though I'm in the process of changing that), doesn't mean that the word can't remind me of other words of French origin that I do know, thus allowing me to make the short mental leap to figuring out how it's pronounced.

Also, that's what pronunciation keys in the dictionary are for.

[DakAttack]

Also, that's what pronunciation keys in the dictionary are for.

Because they always make perfect sense.

[Murphie]

They do to me.

[Feba]

I simply said that I was able to figure out how to pronounce the word the first time I saw it. It's called critical thinking.

As was everyone else. They just came to a different conclusion.

And humans don't understand IPA. Get off my forum, Compumurphie.

[Murphie]

:(

[Mhurron]

Not 100% sure about Uggalepih but i'd pronounce it "hug a luh-pee". Please dont say "yug-ale-pie" next to me, ever.

Ugly, it's pronounced Ugly. As in Temple Ugly.

P.S. Go Flight of the Concords!
Commodores, Flight of the Commodores.

Grimoire is simply pronounced grime.

[Feba]

fun fact: even SE doesn't know how to pronounce some things in FF.

Someone asked how they pronounce Beadeux, Uggalepih, and so on awhile ago. Different people gave different results, there is no official answer because they never thought of it.

I don't support the JP version uses katakana, does it? Still, that can only be so much of a guide.
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(for the reference, I pronounce it "UG-lay-pih". Maybe "UG~glay-pih". With an "Uh" sound, not "ah")

[Dymlos]

I've always prounounced Ugly as in Oog ah leph

[Karinya]

Einherjar: Get Valkyrie Profile (the first one) and you'll know how to pronounce this. They actually get it right (I think; not an expert on Scandinavian languages myself). Say "(n)ine hair yar(d)" dropping the consonants in ()s and you'll be pretty close.

Grimoire: "Grim War" would be pretty close, if you pronounced "war" to rhyme with "star".

Did you know "grimoire", "grammar" and "glamour" all come from the same word? Oh, and Glamor Jupon and Gramary Cape, too. (Both of which would be great items for SCH, hint hint. Most Brigid armors aren't job-exclusive, so there's no reason for GJ to be. But maybe I'm just saying that because I already have one...)

[Patchinko]

In the JP version it is written 「グリモア」, so said "Gri-moh-ah" basically.

Since somebody asked. :)

[Balfree]

Grimoire... as much as i like the word, its been replaced. O wellz!

[Pteryx]

Bah, why'd they replace it for NA? Do they think Americans are all bibliophobes? -- Pteryx

[Nazo]

Wasn't there a Grimoire in Buffy the Vampire Slayer? There's your pronunciation lesson right there.

[Murphie]

Bah, why'd they replace it for NA? Do they think Americans are all bibliophobes? -- PteryxWell, some of us are bibliophiles, but I can see where they might get the opposite impression.

[Yellow Mage]

"Grimoire" sounds so much better than "Arts." :(

[Anaki]

but but does FFTA and FFTA2 still say grimoire D: clearly gba and DS players have better pronunciation then pc/ps3 players :( or im totally wrong. also possible

[Balfree]

I first learned of the word Grimoire on a little pearl called Vagrant Story

[Kailea]

they changed the word of the book? oh thats retarded.......

[Ellipses]

I place the blame squarely on the hunched shoulders of the unwashed xbox masses.

[DarkEpyon]

I first learned of the word Grimoire on a little pearl called Vagrant Story
That was my first exposure to the term too.

[Menelaus]

this makes no sense but it is how i pronounce them.

Beadeux = Be yudix
Uggalepih = oogle-a-path
Grimoire = Grim-or
einjiender or whaterver

[Ellipses]

Personally, I pronounce it like this:

Neck row post.