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Vyuru
11-14-2007, 01:57 PM
I've been in alot of situations where I would have thought that Dispel would be resisted, fighting T mobs as drg/rdm, fighting CoP spawn NMs (sea monk, tonberry, and whatever the other one is) I've even been in a lvl 72 party in the Mire as a lvl 43 rdm and I've still been able to Dispel the Imps. The only time I have ever seen Dispel resisted was vs summons.

So, can it be resisted? Lmnop says it can (and he CAN'T be wrong, he's Lmnop! :P ) Is there any general guidline for Dispel resistance?

Mhurron
11-14-2007, 02:00 PM
It seems to have a very, very low chance of resistance. That's what makes it so damn irritating when it is resisted.

Kafeen
11-14-2007, 02:03 PM
It can be but its pretty rare and usually only by mobs with high dark resistance.

Omni
11-14-2007, 02:26 PM
Yes, it can. I've seen it happen a few times.

Aksannyi
11-14-2007, 02:35 PM
It tends to resist when you need it the most, gods come to mind.

Malacite
11-14-2007, 02:47 PM
Finale can also be resisted, which is extremely annoying when you consider BRD's crap skill rating

Karinya
11-14-2007, 04:15 PM
Monsters with high dark resistance like skeletons and demons can resist it occasionally. A few monsters resist it pretty damn often, I think imps and ahriman mainly. Avatars resist it 100% iirc (except maybe Super-Carby, I've never fought him). Dark elementals probably *would* resist it, except they never buff themselves so why would you bother?

In general it's very hard to resist, but not impossible.

Taskmage
11-14-2007, 04:47 PM
Don't forget buff-tastic antica. They don't resist it as much as demons and undead, but they're so annoying in other ways.

Armando
11-14-2007, 04:55 PM
Dark elementals probably *would* resist it, except they never buff themselves so why would you bother?Maybe they have Dread Spikes now?

WishMaster3K
11-14-2007, 04:59 PM
Eye's don't resist it much. They resist Silence which is a bitch.
Pots resist it when they do Magic Barrier
Demon's don't resist it much either
Undead is the same story

Of course, I have Taru INT, which isn't that big of a difference considering everyone's gear End-Game. And I don't have any more Enfeebling Neck Pieces at the moment (RDM Hat has been hung up in favor of PLD Shield..)

But the only obscenely resistances I've seen are Pots with Magic Barrier and possibly Gods.

Malacite
11-14-2007, 05:20 PM
Maybe they have Dread Spikes now?

Don't even joke about that...

Taskmage
11-14-2007, 05:22 PM
Mostly I notice it on Dynamis-Xarc demons. Not commonly but enough to be infuriating when it happens.

Jei
11-14-2007, 06:31 PM
some of the mobs in assault missions resist dispel very often. Even with main rdm and cap merti skill.

Gobo
11-14-2007, 07:16 PM
Bahamut has about at 60-70% resistance to Dispel (not sure about Finale) Which is actually a problem because dispel spam in attempts to get rid of Pro V, Shell V, Phalanx plus dispels hate properties can lead to one dead RDM. Or you get lucky and live and have to just twiddle your thumbs for about 5-10 min because your hate is decaying so slowly ._. . Not that I speak from experience....

WishMaster3K
11-14-2007, 08:15 PM
What's bad is the recast on it means we can literally SPAM it. Yeah. Now that I know Dispel is a big ol chunk of permanent hate...

Icemage
11-14-2007, 09:22 PM
Anything with lots of Dark resistance can resist Dispel. Also, I find that spell-based buffs are easier to Dispel than other types.

Undead, Demons, Imps and Antica are notorious for resisting Dispel. Anything with Magic Immunity will do it, as will the occasional HNM.


Icemage

Callisto
11-15-2007, 05:49 AM
For those of you that do Nyzul Isle or other ToAU events, Soulflayer-type mobs are damn near impossible to Dispel, not sure about Finale on them since I never take my BRD to Nyzul, but I've never landed a Dispel.

IfritnoItazura
11-15-2007, 06:19 AM
One of these days, I'm going to get my BRD to Lv.37, and then I'll be running around as RDM/BRD trying to Finale every other critter in Vana'diel.

arkaine23
11-15-2007, 06:31 AM
Finale is sadly not as sticky as dispel. Its not horrible if you have singing skill gear and m. acc gear and Light/Apollo Staff. But mostly it won't work well on VT or above unless they're weak to light.

Works great on weapons and bones and fomors, not so well on trolls or mamool.

Armando
11-15-2007, 06:39 AM
I have this theory that mobs that resist damage from certain elements by a certain % also auto-resist enfeebles of that element that often. I'd like to look into it. Right after I confirm that mob Cursed Sphere isn't water-based.

Taskmage
11-15-2007, 06:41 AM
I just remembered. Isn't Diamondhide undispellable?

BurningPanther
11-15-2007, 06:42 AM
I just remembered. Isn't Diamondhide undispellable?
Unfortunately, yes. Undispellable.

Mhurron
11-15-2007, 06:44 AM
I just remembered. Isn't Diamondhide undispellable?
Unfortunately, yes. Undispellable.
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BurningPanther
11-15-2007, 06:47 AM
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I know, me too. I did a little "wtf" when I found out the truth myself.

Icemage
11-17-2007, 10:18 AM
I just remembered. Isn't Diamondhide undispellable?
It is when used by trolls. The Blue Magic version is dispellable, same as any Stoneskin effect.

I have this theory that mobs that resist damage from certain elements by a certain % also auto-resist enfeebles of that element that often. I'd like to look into it. Right after I confirm that mob Cursed Sphere isn't water-based.
Not always true - but "mostly" true. Kirin is weak to wind magic, but resists Silence like crazy. Fenrir Prime is putatively weak to light magic damage, but is virtually impossible to Flash. Some other NMs are this way too. Rank and file monsters of the XP-able variety do typically follow this pattern, however.


Icemage