King Artho vs. RDM/NIN

[WishMaster3K]

Yay or Nay?

I mean this is just speculation, but hopefully during the weekend I'll find out sooner or later.

I'm camping right now, and I log in periodically to check the camp, and I keep good contact with the other campers in the area just to be a fair sport. (I really just want that god damned ToD...)

[Kirsteena]

Difficult to do before rage timer, but maybe.

Edit: after seeing it has 15k hp, very difficult to get the damage before rage timer.

[WishMaster3K]

Well I posted this at 9:00am, and it's 1030 now, and I see that the Knight Crabs were killed while I was AFK.

Protect wore, and I cast it maybe 5mins before I logged off, although I was online for about 10 mins before I went AFK, so it's feasible that he died after 930 AM, but before 1020.

In any case, I'll try to be online tomorrow starting at 6am, so that I can get a precise ToD.

[hongman]

Doubt it.

Without timer, then easy NP.

But a decently geared PLD/NIN and THF/NIN took him on duo, and they had real problems killing before the rage timer, and in the end had help from a couple RDM's to finish it off before it Raged.

Considering the THF would of been SA'ing every chance he had, the damage output would far exceed that of what a RDM could do alone.

[Icemage]

Not possible to do it within the rage timer. RDM just doesn't deal damage fast enough. You need some outside help for sure.


Icemage

[WishMaster3K]

He's a bit weaker than Aquarius, but a crapload more HP. I'm not sure about Bind/Gravity, being as it's entirely possible that he'd eventually start resisting, but what about nuking?

15000/500 = 30 Nukes.

That seems "feasible", and by that I mean, "more reasonable than melee soloing him".
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Blizzard is 120
Thunder is 128

It might be more possible for me to duo him down to 75% health, then start alternating with Thunder III and Blizzard III.

With Full MP and a Convert, that is possible. And that's assuming I don't do over 500 damage a nuke.
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ON A SIDE NOTE, THE MANSUR EPEE COMPLETELY OWNS MY JOYEUSE IN TERMS OF DAMAGE.

I think I finally have a reason to Dual-Wield now.

[hongman]

And that you done need to Cure yourself, or enfeeble, and no resists....

[WishMaster3K]

Yeah. So I'm pretty much going to need at least 2 other people if I want to nuke it, or 2 other people if I want to melee it.

Bleh.

I'm just gonna play around with this Sword some more. Just did a 781 Savage blade on a TW, breaking my previous record of 500. I'm so happy!

[Mhurron]

I'd try it once anyway.

BTW, apparently a NIN has soloed him so you may only need one other person.

[Necropolis]

Using 2hours you and a mnk can easily duo it. Or a Kraken/Ridill Drk if you happen to know one somewhere.

I usually 3 man KA in the wee hours of the morning, and almost any setup will work for that.

I can't really think of a job that could solo KA in time. Drk would be close, but would need haste/march to pull it off I think.

[Icemage]

Drk would be close, but would need haste/march to pull it off I think.
Galka Dark Knight with some accuracy gears and a Kraken Club might be able to do it using Souleater + Blood Weapon as a finisher, but even that would be iffy. 15000 HP is a lot of damage to try to deal out in such a short time frame.


Icemage

[Omni]

I've also heard of acccounts of nin soloing KA. Granted, with lots of hi-pots at your disposal.

[Necropolis]

Galka Dark Knight with some accuracy gears and a Kraken Club might be able to do it using Souleater + Blood Weapon as a finisher, but even that would be iffy. 15000 HP is a lot of damage to try to deal out in such a short time frame.


Icemage

I know the Kraken Drks our LS has can do about 23k damage in thier 2hr. But thats 6 soul voiced songs, haste, and someone curebombing them if needed.

Not sure how much that would decrease without songs. Can use a haste belt for haste though.

How much can a rdm, assuming no resist, do in thier 2 hour? Might be close, if you stuck to one spell and didn't swap staves you're getting 2tp a spell. So might be close to a 100 TP after chainspell and convert to pop out a TP move.

[Ryoii/Nonomii]

Mensur Epee only has 47 DMG during normal melee hits (not during WS), so I'm guessing that most of your increased weapon skill damage is from getting 3 hit Savage Blades while dual wielding rather than 2 hit Savage Blades when single wielding Joyeuse. However, the DoT of Mensur Epee is very high, so I see why it makes dual wielding worth it.

[WishMaster3K]

Possibly. I added the Taru RSE boots and the Warwolf belt into my macro, so maybe.

[Seijurohiko]

I've been wanting to try soloing this guy for awhile on RDM. Wiki has him raging after 20 min, with about 15k HP. I think it's possible for a well geared/prepared RDM to kill before the timer. Amikiri has over 25k HP and I've soloed it many times in just over 30 min.

Would likely go with /nin, using Blau + Joyeuse. Chainspell at the start and pump out as many Thunder III's as possible, Convert, Cure IV, and finish Chainspell off with more nukage. Should be able to take off close to 6k of his HP within the first couple minutes, assuming at least 10 unresisted nukes.

After CS wears, pop a Vile Elixir +1, and go into /nin melee phase, making sure to nuke whenever mp and shadows allow.

It might also be worth using a martial dagger instead to get better MP returns from Energy Drain.

Of course, getting the claim is another story. But I'd really love to try it out some time.

[LilithAngel]

I would say a duo of RDM and BLU would take this guy down easy; enough endurance to outlast it, and more than enough damage potential between the two of them to take him down, rage or no.

Actually, a partnership between the two jobs is hella scary. A pair made of Unstoppable and Killing. :thumbsup:

[WishMaster3K]

Lillith, you used that phrase twice in 3 minutes.

I think you need to sit down before the Internet explodes.

[LilithAngel]

:evil:

[WishMaster3K]

God damnit, 3 Times. That's it, I'm going to sleep.

[hongman]

I think a very well geared and skilled RDM could possibly do it, but even then I think it would be daaaaamn close.

Actually, idk. Im teetering between yes/no.

But yeah, getting claim, good luck >.>

[Kirsteena]

I would say a duo of RDM and BLU would take this guy down easy; enough endurance to outlast it, and more than enough damage potential between the two of them to take him down, rage or no.
Actually, a partnership between the two jobs is hella scary. A pair made of Unstoppable and Killing. :thumbsup:

Oh trust me, a duo of rdm and blu are pretty unstoppable... Done many stupid, er, fun things between myself and my blu friend.