Missionary Man. How Was It For you?

[Snowball]

I'm off to do this quest in the Yuhtunga Jungle.
Missionary Man (http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/quests.html?fquest=302)

Been reading through 1 or 2 of the posts on there, and it seems that a few have been saying that the drop rate for this elshimo marble is ridiculous.
I'm just wondering if anyone else here has gone through this quest too, and if so, how were the drop rates for you guys here? How many kills did it take you to get it?

Is it REALLY so important of a quest to do anyway? What's the point of it?

I think I'm going to try the other tele quest for Alteppa too.
The Missing Piece (http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/quests.html?fquest=273)
It seems a bit more of a complicated process to go through than the other one, (hope I dont die out there! just use invis I guess) but it will be handy for making a quick trip there, since I'm under the impression that, that is where you can go for partying at level 40+ (well that, and maybe still at the Crawlers Nest too)

What are the opinion's on this from you guys here please?:cool:

[Taskmage]

The title of this thread made me laugh ..

The drop rate is pretty bad, but not half as bad as the drop rate for say pre-patch Ancient Papyrus or Tavnazia Bell. But y'know, like most drops it's random. I've gone out and gotten it on the first mob once and another time I was out there hunting with friends for like 4 hours.

[Tsrwedge]

Took me 152 frickin' lizards to get that dang drop - WHM/BLM, no TH, had NPC out when I get the drop.

[Saren]

The title of this thread made me laugh ..

hehehe snap

Took me about 6 hours of camping total to get the drop, mostly about half of that with a high level thf helping me. It was horrible but I know people who have gotten it much faster than I did.

How important is it? If your party want to go to the goblin camp outside Ifrits Cauldron in the 40s, they might be a bit sulky if you don't have it. It's a nice fast route to Norg and the places of Yhoator Jungle if you don't have the OP warp yet and it tends to let you telewhore for a bit more money if you do that much. I just like being able to get around fast, for free and whenever I feel like it, it's one of the huge perks of being a whm.

I soloed the Altepa one and it's actually not difficult if you make sure you know exactly where you are going. If you don't have a map already I strongly suggest printing off (or drawing) a map of the Quicksand caves, making sure you have all the ledge drops and item spawn locations marked.

It also helps if you make sure you know where the entrances you want come out in up top because if I remember right you need to enter the caves through a couple of different entrances to check all the places the item could spawn. Also you need sneak for Anticans, acccording to wiki nothing actually sight aggros in Quicksand Caves.

[Restlesstornado]

369 lizzys...... THREE HUNDRED SIXTY NINE!!!!!! well maybe 400 since i started counting after 50 maybe... and i had TH1

[Snowball]

Unfortunately I just DON'T feel at all confident enough to do these tele quests at all!! They're just too difficult, and I feel I wont be able to do them without any help! :(

Ive been in Yuhtunga for a short while today, trying to get this marble, but I really hated it, because the stupid goblin smiths kept getting in the way, and there is NO WAY a that a WHM can cope with 2 mobs at once! :( I only just managed to get 1 lizzy on its own, and all it dropped was a tail. :( (this is with WHM/THF)
Next time I went through it, I unfortunately got a lizzy link, so I couldn't cope with that either!! :(

Theyre just too damned difficult I'm afraid! :( (Ive already got the other 3 teles though - Dem, Mia and Holla. They were easy.)

I could wait and see if I can get any help from anyone ingame, but if I don't, then I'm just wondering, if I was to change servers, would anyone here be able to help me at all? With the recent server hopping option, I'm aware that you have to wait 3 months if you wanted to go back again. (I think that's right, but please feel free to tell me otherwise if I'm wrong) I would be okay with this if it's okay to do that.
I maybe thinking wrong though. I'm not sure.


Edit : Sorry about the title I chose. /blush!
It wasn't until I read a couple of your posts that it made me realise that it could be meant as something else.... something which is actually somewhat rude, sexually. I presume that's why it made you laugh, I think. If not, then I've just completely embarrassed myself in the process. :worry: But if I'm right, then I'll spare the explicits. This isn't the right place for it after all.

[Restlesstornado]

Oh I didn't notice that you had posted on the other quest too- My mistake that one is easy even more-so since you'r a WHM. I would bring a scroll of insta-warp in case you need to click and run though.

But about the Missionary Man quest, Just go and maybe lvl without it. In all honesty you shouldn't need that teleport for a while, and by the time you do need it you could just save up by farming other things you can kill and buy it~

Well good luck and I would help you by comming to my server IF I was able to play.

[Murphie]

So, bold. Really?

Anyway, you'd be better off just buying the scrolls on the AH if you can't solo the quest, or get some assistance with it. Then you can come back later and do the quest solo when you're a higher level.

[Taskmage]

Don't worry about the title. That I found it funny says more about my character than yours, really.

/thf is well and good to improve drop rates, but it doesn't provide much in the way of other tools, so if you can't handle the mobs normally it doesn't help you much. If you subbed blm you could Sleep links if your enfeebling skill is any good. You could also set your home point in Kazham so you could warp out and not have that far to travel back if you got into a situation you really feel like you couldn't handle.

That said, whm isn't a really strong solo class in the mid levels. Getting a friend to help you would make things go a lot faster, or you could go with Murphie's advice.

[Snowball]

I've decided to drop the tele quest for Yhoatar now, and go and try out for Alteppa instead. Ya know, I haven't even had a go at doing this quest yet, so I guess there's no harm in giving it a try.

@ "Taskmage"
I agree that having BLM as sub instead of THF would probably be better, and Warp was actually the one thing I could think of which would be very handy for making a quick transport back to Kazham, especially since I still havent really mastered the technique of trying to make my own way back there without getting lost, so yeah.... warp is very good indeed! But since the drop rate is terrible for that marble, like I said, I'm going to leave that quest for a while now and try coming back to it later on instead, preferably when I have gained a couple more levels. At least it will make for less aggro with the goblins by then.

Regarding Sleep....
I've checked my enfeeble skill, and it's at lvl 64.
How do you rate that for putting enemies to sleep? And how long does it last?

@ "Everyone"
I guess I won't really have a map of the Quicksand Caves for the Alteppa Tele quest, and I've read that the only way to get a map for it, is by coffer only.
So obviously you would have to kill a few mobs in there to get a key...... quite beyond my level there yet I guess, and so very nervously, I shall try and sneak my way through for the item spawn location, hoping that I never get killed in the process.

I think I'm going to need some luck here. Hope I get this sucessfully!


Oh, and btw..... I don't think I'd want to buy the scrolls off the the AH to be honest, as they are very expensive! Last I checked (earlier on today) on Fenrir, they are roughly around 50k each, and I just don't have enough gil for them right now! I feel it better to quest them instead.
:cool:

[Restlesstornado]

Just google ffxi-atlas, that site has great maps~ Gooluck with all you'r questing~

[cupid]

I just tried "Missionary Man" for the first time last night as 42WHM/21BLM. I killed 3 lizards, got one lizard tail. I then got a link, and ran for the zone, I hit the zone and got a red message that said I didn't qualify for the zone (or something like that) and ended up dead and level 41. A couple of things that I did wrong: 1. I forgot to have reraise up. 2. I forgot that I had just gained sleep earlier that day when I finally got WHM high enough. 3. I was just a little impatient on pulling the lizards, and had I been less so, it probably wouldn't have gone so badly. I'll definitely be trying it again...I may wait a couple of levels and see if the goblins become too weak.


As for the Altepa quest. That was a piece of cake to do as a WHM. I play on a PS3, so I had the wiki site up (for the map) and ran around with sneak and invis up. (Wiki says you just need sneak, but I wasn't taking chances.) Anyway, that one is definitely soloable if you choose to do it.

[Taskmage]

64 is pretty low for level 40. The cap for that level is 114. You probably want at least 100ish to land Sleep reliably. If unresisted, Sleep lasts for one minute.

The yhoat scroll is about 150k, and altep is ~50k. It sounds like a lot of money, but compared to the trouble you're going through it's really not that much and the rewards are more consistent. At the rate you're going you might spend 6 hours attempting those quests, lose some exp in the process and if you're unlucky still end up with nothing. If you spend that much time farming say, giant spiders in altepa, you're much safer and would probably collect nearly enough spider webs to pay for both scrolls. It's more boring, but also safer and more consistent.

But, y'know, do whatever is fun for you.

[Eohmer]

Don't worry about the title. That I found it funny says more about my character than yours, really.

I thought the same thing when I saw the title. You're not the only one.

As for the thread. It took me and my GF days and days before it finally dropped in Yhoater. Pain in the ass if you ask me.

I don't mind the other quests for the scrolls, but that one will be one I will just buy for myself. :-P

[Snowball]

64 is pretty low for level 40. The cap for that level is 114. You probably want at least 100ish to land Sleep reliably. If unresisted, Sleep lasts for one minute.

The yhoat scroll is about 150k, and altep is ~50k. It sounds like a lot of money, but compared to the trouble you're going through it's really not that much and the rewards are more consistent. At the rate you're going you might spend 6 hours attempting those quests, lose some exp in the process and if you're unlucky still end up with nothing. If you spend that much time farming say, giant spiders in altepa, you're much safer and would probably collect nearly enough spider webs to pay for both scrolls. It's more boring, but also safer and more consistent.
But, y'know, do whatever is fun for you.

Killed about 2-3 giant spiders today on the way to Alteppa (with WHM/BLM) and what did I get.... absolutely NOTHING at all! :( (well apart from a few exp, but that was about all I got. /sigh!)
What a complete waste THAT was! :( I might try killing them with WHM/THF next time.

I'll have to go back and check it out again, but if that scroll for Tele Alteppa is around 50k on AH, I might just have enough, by the skin of my teeth, :P and perhaps buy it instead. Ill have to think about it.

As for the Tele Yhoatar quest one..... I'm going to wait now til I've gained maybe 2 or 4 more levels of WHM, then I'll feel confident enough to give it another shot without the worry of aggro from the goblins getting in the way!
I'm definitely NOT paying 150k for a scroll I can perhaps get with a few tries a bit later on!
WAAAYYYYY too expensive in my opinion Im afraid!:cool:

[Feenicks]

Why do you want to kill Giant Spiders? They've got nothing to do with the Teleport-Altep quest at all. Did you even read what the quest entails?

[Taskmage]

Altep is much more important that Yhoat anyway. The altepa area is good for a pretty wide range of levels, whereas there's one maybe two good exp camps in yhoator and nobody really uses them.

Spider webs are a pretty rare drop. I'm not surprised you didn't get one after only a few kills. But if you sub thf and spend a long time there you'll probably walk away with some cash.

[Taskmage]

Why do you want to kill Giant Spiders? They've got nothing to do with the Teleport-Altep quest at all. Did you even read what the quest entails?v vThe yhoat scroll is about 150k, and altep is ~50k. It sounds like a lot of money, but compared to the trouble you're going through it's really not that much and the rewards are more consistent. At the rate you're going you might spend 6 hours attempting those quests, lose some exp in the process and if you're unlucky still end up with nothing. If you spend that much time farming say, giant spiders in altepa, you're much safer and would probably collect nearly enough spider webs to pay for both scrolls. It's more boring, but also safer and more consistent.

[Feenicks]

Oh, I see ... Carry on :) /salute

[cupid]

The Altep quest is easy and short..................I'd much rather do that than pay 50k for it......I may have to check out these spiders, though.....I can't afford spells, and I really want Haste and Cure IV!!!


Can I solo them as 42WHM/21/BLM?

[WishMaster3K]

In before "Doggie Style - How was it for you?"

[Mhurron]

Now come on, you don't have even a few friends you can con into helping you with these?

[Taskmage]

The Altep quest is easy and short..................I'd much rather do that than pay 50k for it......I may have to check out these spiders, though.....I can't afford spells, and I really want Haste and Cure IV!!!
Can I solo them as 42WHM/21/BLM?The spiders in the eastern desert are 30-34, so you're high enough level. Before anyone gets mad at me for giving bad farming advice, I just looked up mobs on somepage or ffxi-atlas that were low enough level to solo that had valuable drops. I make no guarantee about the drop rate.

[Mhurron]

The altepa quest is just sneaking yourself looking for a ??? point. There's nothing to kill for it so I don't really see how it can be so bad that a WHM or RDM or /WHM, /RDM couldn't do it.

Oh, and use ffxi-atlas.com to get around as they should have all the possible ??? marked.

[Sevv]

0/2,789 on the jungle tele.

back to my /emo whm corner

[Snowball]

The altepa quest is just sneaking yourself looking for a ??? point. There's nothing to kill for it so I don't really see how it can be so bad that a WHM or RDM or /WHM, /RDM couldn't do it.



I guess it's just because I have no map for the area, that I feel rather nervous about going round there solo without one.

I actually got a little started on doing it..... and I think it was either yesterday or the day before. I got so far down the hallway of the caves in there, (where I passed what looked like a group partying there at the time) and reached the end where there was a drop at the right hand corner there. (with an antican mob stood near it)

Now, I was trying to follow the instructions for this from the "alla" link I noted earlier, and I didn't really understand it. It says something about falling down the eastern or western side of the drop, and I'm rather confused, because it's not like a round hole.... its rectangular and the only way to go down it, is to just drop straight down! You can't drop East or West, so I don't know what on earth "alla" is going on about! :worry:

When I got there though, I'm quite certain that I had something casted on me from a mob somewhere in the vicinty, (most likely antican) so without knowing where to go next, I just decided to drop down..... then decided to warp back to Eastern Alteppa where I set my hp. Was too scared to continue on from there unfortunately! :(


Oh, and use ffxi-atlas.com to get around as they should have all the possible ??? marked.

Oh....okay.... do you SEE any ??? marked on here?

Quicksand Caves (http://www.ffxi-atlas.com/maps/quicksand_caves/general/)

I certainly don't! :worry: Unless I need glasses.

The only ??? I see on there are 2. One is marked for a NM called "Tribunus Vll - l" (3rd map down) and the other one is for a quest related monster called "Girtablulu" (6th map down) And I certainly don't think either of those 2 have anything to do with the Tele Alteppa quest at all!

It would be very handy if all the ??? were marked on there for this patricular quest, as it would help me to find them easily, but unfortunately, they aren't.

I guess I could still try and get a few maps printed though, but I'm not sure how much ink I have.

I'll try and do it a couple of times, and see how far I get.

[Sevv]

map 2

c-9 and L-11

that is the pos for it

[WishMaster3K]

Sub BLM. Warp if things look bad.

Honestly, the game isn't that scary of a place. I soloed Beastmen stronghold parts of my Rank 5 (where you had to infiltrate and get to the magicite), by myself when I was at lvl 40, because I was SICK of taking Chocobos for a 20-30 minute ride anywhere. At the time I was leveling Clothcraft, so riding from Windy to Jeuno to Bastok or something for ingredients took WAY too long.

I'll be blunt, you have to be driven. We can give you advice, but we can't babysit the quest with you...

[Snowball]

The spiders in the eastern desert are 30-34, so you're high enough level. Before anyone gets mad at me for giving bad farming advice, I just looked up mobs on somepage or ffxi-atlas that were low enough level to solo that had valuable drops. I make no guarantee about the drop rate.

I think the spiders in Alteppa are probably aboout the only things which are close enough to be able to solo at the moment, as everything else is either a "T" or "IT"

Oh, and btw - on Fenrir, (and this is just in Sandy) the Tele Alteppa scroll sells for nearly 80 to 100k on the AH. So I presume that would roughly be around the same price in Windy, Bastok, and Jeuno too. So therefore I'm definitely NOT buying it from there..... not at that price ever!

[Mhurron]

I actually got a little started on doing it..... and I think it was either yesterday or the day before. I got so far down the hallway of the caves in there, (where I passed what looked like a group partying there at the time) and reached the end where there was a drop at the right hand corner there. (with an antican mob stood near it)
Now, I was trying to follow the instructions for this from the "alla" link I noted earlier, and I didn't really understand it. It says something about falling down the eastern or western side of the drop, and I'm rather confused, because it's not like a round hole.... its rectangular and the only way to go down it, is to just drop straight down! You can't drop East or West, so I don't know what on earth "alla" is going on about!It makes sense when you look at it calmly. Look at the first map (on ffxi-atlas.com) for the Quicksand caves at I and J-7. You see a red arrow pointing south then two others, one pointing east and one pointing west. You can first only fall down at the middle at the first arrow, but then you choose to go east or west. So when they say drop West, they mean choose the path going west.

I'm quite certain that I had something casted on me from a mob somewhere in the vicinty, (most likely antican) so without knowing where to go next, I just decided to drop down..... then decided to warp back to Eastern Alteppa where I set my hp. Was too scared to continue on from there unfortunately! :( You're going to hear a lot of casting. If you don't see an effect hitting you, they probably aren't casting at you. If you keep sneak up at all times you're going to be fine.

Oh....okay.... do you SEE any ??? marked on here?
Quicksand Caves (http://www.ffxi-atlas.com/maps/quicksand_caves/general/)
I certainly don't! :worry: Unless I need glasses.
You could add them, they are listed with every guide for the quest.
All this quest takes is the ability to read a map, stay calm, keep sneak up and run to a few points on the map until you find the ??? you're looking for. It's not difficult, only time consuming but if you don't stay calm you're going to end up dead.

[Snowball]

I'll try solo this quest a few times I guess. Everyone here is saying it's pretty easy to solo for lvl 40, so I guess it is. I'll just give it a good try until I get it ok?

[WishMaster3K]

Try your best!

Altepa is very useful when leveling from 40-52 you won't regret having it. I apologize if I seemed harsh.

[Taskmage]

Trying anyway when you're not sure you'll succeed is the only way to expand your limits. If you fail, try to figure out what you did wrong and try again. Of course, there's nothing wrong with leaning on a friend when you need help, but imo those unwilling to try and fail aren't worthy of succeeding. That goes for anything.

[DieselBoy09]

It was awful, I prefer reverse cowgirl.

[Mhurron]

It didn't work the first time, what makes you think it would work the other 3 times?

[Malevolent]

i like reverse cow girl...its like doggie style laying down!!!

It took me about 30 lizzies for the marble to drop and thats me as a 70 Drg/war...had a EXP party yell at me because they were EXPing off them...Umm WHO DOES THAT?? lots of hacking and poor xp...:wtf:

[Sevv]

It didn't work the first time, what makes you think it would work the other 3 times?

Magic!

[Snowball]

[System Message: You are not allowed to post URLs as you have not yet contributed sufficiently. Please try again at a later time.]

Just need to have made sufficient enough posts really before you can posts URLs. The mods might have a few reasons for it, but I think it's mainly just to prevent the spread of rmt adverts and the like. Very understandable of course.

I'm not really sure how many posts you're allowed to make though before you can.
Just become an old poster boy/girl (hehe... sorry for the pun :P ) like the rest of us, and you'll be up to your eyes in URLs. :P

[cupid]

Oh Jesus, you can't even type in the word d o t instead of the period??????

I give up, just do the quest!! You can find good maps on FFXI clopedia


LOL< and apparently you can't edit either.....I give up!

[Taskmage]

Deleted the extra posts >.>

[Sevv]

I just pwnt your post count >.>

fixed