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wrongfeifong
07-31-2007, 11:46 PM
OK before i ask... would people who willing to answer my question, please don't attack or turn this into a flame post. I just want simple and fast answer.

I am closing to the gap of 70 as we speak. I am looking for information on how hard the break limit one vs one fight with qualtda. I have watch the video on FFXIcyc.


I have the following question...

Do you fight it @ 70 and get Best rACC gear (like behemonth ring x2, precise belt, deadeye glove)? or you could do it @ 66? (what is a good gun ? i am still using trump gun since no hexagun ever sell on my server)

What food you use? (looking for the best one possible) ratk or racc ?

If possible, where do you farm the monster that drop testi? like good location that doesn't wipe a party or something.

Which quick draw is most effective ? (i saw light shot doing dmg for some reason on him in the video)

could we rely on Hi-potion like a brd fight ? and slug shot @ like 200+ TP (for racc)

P.S: i did BRD maat fight before so i know the basic routine to prepare for the fight.

Omgwtfbbqkitten
08-01-2007, 12:26 AM
Lamia Icedancers are the mobs in the Reef that drop the Testimomy, they're near where the Soulflayers roam about but somewhat spread out, so bring /RNG for Wide Scan. Camp the bridge between their islands and bring about 3-4 people to kill, these Lamia are BLM and can be pretty nasty.

Moving on, Light Shot no longer does damage, so that video is slightly out-of-date. Prior to the December 2006 update, it did do damage but when SE added the sleep and dispel elements to Light and Dark Shot they took the damage away.

Some CORs have taken some notes from the RDM and BLM Maat fight and followed the elemental day and used the corresponding Quick Draw for extra damage, sometimes matching it up with the proper elemental staff and all that.

It wouldn't hurt to follow some of the BRD Maat strategy here, though. I know you're one to rush things and skip important details, but wait til 70 to make this easier on yourself. Grab some selbina milks so Qultada doesn't wipe one of your buffs with Dark Shot and keep those selbina milks on. And Opo necklace, sleep potions, Icarus Wing, Blink Band and all that.

Food, I'd go with Squid Sushi, you lose your subjob here so meat isn't going to help your performance. I'd also use Chaos Roll and Samurai Roll here, Or Hunter's. Don't forget to capitalize on Wild Card and Random Deal, either.

Also, the Trump Gun has got to go, you should have mothballed it in the Mog Locker once you could use Matchlock gun. Get a Matchlock gun for the raw damage. Remember that your Quick Draw damage is affected by your gun and Bullet's DMG together. The lower your gun DMG, the lower your QD damage. Every bit counts in a fight like this.

And QDs not withstanding, you could end up in some melee and staff does you no good there. Its time to level sword skill. You could plausibly get by without it, but levelling it won't hurt, especially since you seem so intent on hording gil away and complaining about using bullets.

You're almost 70, camp that Joyeuse, not only will it be useful here, but also for meleeing for TP in merit PTs later on. Its very much worth it, you'll save lots on bullets later on for getting it and it can be useful in this fight for TPing your next Slug Shot.

Kuro
08-01-2007, 03:48 AM
*hides his shiney polished Trump gun*

Omgwtfbbqkitten
08-01-2007, 11:17 AM
*hides his shiney polished Trump gun*

I know its a pretty gun, but there's a gun sitting in KSNM30s that is prettier and better :P You'll get a pretty gun again someday, use the ugly ones for now :P

Gaze upon the Coffinmaker in all its majesty:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/images/fashion/ranged/F-Coffinmaker.jpg

Its a bitch to unlock the latent on this one. 500 Weaponskill points, but 40 DMG and +9 Ranged Accuracy is nice and very worth it. Its our best all-around gun aside from the Shark Gun. At least until we know what Quicksilver's hidden effects are. Martial Gun I didn't like so much, probably because I have too much accuracy to see a difference.

Kuro
08-01-2007, 11:40 AM
Yeah, I want a CM sooo much, unlocking it shouldn;t be too hard, i knew a few SAM's i can play with, Just got to get the sucker, my BCNM luck is crappy.

Callisto
08-01-2007, 11:56 AM
My COR is on hold at 60 until I can land a Shark Gun, that will hold me over til I can use my Coffinmaker. :wasted: Good luck on GK5, WFF.

wrongfeifong
08-01-2007, 01:50 PM
I am trying to get a hold of hexagun or borrow one, but Matchlock gun seem even harder to get. (there is a +1 on AH but 300k isn't something i could afford currently)

Does dark short dispell food effect and roll effect? (since roll effect isn't magic effect)

I am also a tarutaru which mean my HP without a sub is around 700. Anything that actually help ? like +hp food that give +racc or should i focus on adding more HP ? in gear.

P.S: i am also planning on leveling sword as /nin because i could gain TP faster in skillup party to unlock coffinmaker (which i already brought it XD)

Callisto
08-01-2007, 01:58 PM
Food won't be dispelled by Dark Shot, but it is possible that rolls will be, this hasn't happened to me before but songs can be so I think it's a safe assumption.

Squid Sushi offers HP, racc, and AGI. Probably the best food you can go with for this fight(and 40+ COR in general, IMO.)

Necropolis
08-01-2007, 02:20 PM
Food can't be dispelled, but effects from drinks can be. Selbina milk gives you a regen effect and not a food effect. I *believe* this effect will get dispeled before any other effect, and thus why OMG suggested it.

P.S: i am also planning on leveling sword as /nin because i could gain TP faster in skillup party to unlock coffinmaker (which i already brought it XD)

I assume you meant bought it? How so as the gun is rare/ex, and thus not obtainable any other way except through the 3 BCNMs that drop it?

Omgwtfbbqkitten
08-01-2007, 03:04 PM
I am trying to get a hold of hexagun or borrow one, but Matchlock gun seem even harder to get. (there is a +1 on AH but 300k isn't something i could afford currently)

The Hexagun isn't much better for damage. The Matchlock doesn't have to be the +1, you're still getting better damage from the NQ Matchlock than a NQ or HQ Hexagun. HQ Matchlock is only a marginal improvement, its not worth the gil without some specialized stats (which HQ Matchlock lacks).

Does dark short dispell food effect and roll effect? (since roll effect isn't magic effect)

Single Target dispels go for the buff at the front of the line. Meaning Regen is first, Shadows are second and Reraise is third. Reraise won't be a factor here. Food effects don't get dispelled, so they'll skip over that and go for rolls and songs after the first three I mentioned. Just use milk to have regen up as a means to block other things from getting dispelled.

Rolls and songs are treated exactly the same, Rolls can be dispelled, even though we grant them through a Job Ability.

I am also a tarutaru which mean my HP without a sub is around 700. Anything that actually help ? like +hp food that give +racc or should i focus on adding more HP ? in gear.

Sushi gives a little HP, but the RNG/COR/THF War JSE will also get you some HP as well. Its level 70 armor. Most of it isn't very good, though. Feet and Legs are OK. At any rate, I'd just bring lots of High-pots.

If DEF is a concern, you could use Tavnazian Tacos for the 25% DEF boost.

P.S: i am also planning on leveling sword as /nin because i could gain TP faster in skillup party to unlock coffinmaker (which i already brought it XD)

Joyeuse single wield gets faster skillups than dual wield with two swords, even if one is Joyeuse. I'm talking about delay here, BTW, you actually increase the delay of your swing by dual wielding.

Dunno what you mean about Coffinmaker, you just said you're 66 and that gun is level 72. And you can't buy Coffinmaker, its KSNM only.

Peacemaker, however, you can buy and that's nice for pulling and sleeping mobs, nice dispel duty as well, but its a pea-shooter otherwise. Its not DD gun, its worse than Hexaguns for damage and the TP returns stink.

Raydeus
08-01-2007, 03:27 PM
By the way wrongfeifong, do you wanna fight the BC just for fun or did you beat Maat as a BRD with another character?

wrongfeifong
08-02-2007, 01:18 PM
i beat maat on the other account. Corsair is my only job 40+ on this account and quilify for breaking 70.

I guess i brought the wrong gun, i have the peacemaker, always mistook peacemaker as coffinmaker. (there goes my 100k T.T)

wrongfeifong
09-13-2007, 02:55 AM
repost on my own to bump this.

Anyone know the resist rate of Qualtada? I am planning to use a new strategy then fighting head on.

slugshot
Wear blink band
Going to sleep him
Hipotion
Sleep my self with opo-opo necklace
count to 50 sec. If awaken ..prepare to resleep otherwise...let qualtada wake me.
then repeat until 5 slugshot is done (save 2hr and random deal for emergency)
Icarus wing for time remaining. (would also love to use stoneskin torque but no one make them on my server)

Kuro
09-13-2007, 04:02 AM
I have to say its an ... interesting stratagy.

I myself have never used an oop necklace stratagy fr anything. So I'd have to say it depends more on how long that takes to charge when asleep. With an insane AGI build you should be able tp get him to sleep i'd say for around 45 seconds with some luck for him not to resist. This is based upon his level and him being COR/nothing.

I'd personally just go the normal way. Use hunters and Chaos/what ever, open with sharpshot barrage at optimum range with sushi and lay into him. When you get to 30-40% HP just Light shot him and High pot yourself and rest. When haoppy with your hp wake him with an optimum range shot and keep fighting till he goes down.

I don't like to rely on Lightshot, it's out trump card for soloing, but to hinge your fight on it totally, not a good idea. The normal way you can get away with him resisting all/most of the sleep and still get a large chunk of hp back.

Omgwtfbbqkitten
09-13-2007, 10:53 AM
repost on my own to bump this.

Anyone know the resist rate of Qualtada? I am planning to use a new strategy then fighting head on.

slugshot
Wear blink band
Going to sleep him
Hipotion
Sleep my self with opo-opo necklace
count to 50 sec. If awaken ..prepare to resleep otherwise...let qualtada wake me.
then repeat until 5 slugshot is done (save 2hr and random deal for emergency)
Icarus wing for time remaining. (would also love to use stoneskin torque but no one make them on my server)

COR mobs, in my experience, are rather resistant to Light Shot. I've spent the last couple days fighting Lamia Icedancers and Eraphmaudian Shades for Pankration stuff, hoping to get a Main Job: Corsair plate off them. I'd say Light Shot is 50% resisted so i would NOT rely on sleeps to win this fight.

Here's what I would do:


First off, use Sole Sushi, you'll need the accuracy and STR will boost the damage a little. Also, matchlock and Steel bullets, take full advantage of our new bullets please, Hexagun does piss damage.
Go on Earthday and use Earth Staff, this is for the 20% damage reduction and Earth Shot. You'll get earth damage bonus for the day and using the staff, and save some HP on damage.
Use Opo necklace Sleep for TP first, then use blink band and stoneskin torque
Qultada may or may not use Dark Shot, just in case he does, use Selbina Milk for its regen effect, it will target this first and protect your other buffs.
Gallant's Roll - Why? Because it will help reduce the damage you take. SE buffed this roll on the last update and its great for solo situations. It won't reflect ranged attacks damage, but COR mobs generally are melee mobs, not ranged.
Chaos Roll - for the damage boost, obviously.
Go in and Quick Draw, then slug.
Icarus Wing, Slug again.
Spam Hi-pots and Selbina Milk as needed, Random Deal
If you're both still alive before the next Quick Draw, Wild Card and pray for a III of IV for TP.

wrongfeifong
09-13-2007, 04:07 PM
i like the idea of using earth staff, however, i will lose the r-acc then ? Also gallant reduce dmg ? I don't have that dice yet (not in endgame).

Also isn't qualtada or rather the dueler (maat ) usually lower level ?When i fought maat @ 67 brd, it feel like i am fighting a EM...but at 70 (2nd try) he was like a DC. So sleeping would become more successful ?

I thought of this plan because i am a taru.... i have only 600 hp without sj....

Actually i am interest in one thing...
Does light staff help light shot? ..... i would love some inputs.

Omgwtfbbqkitten
09-13-2007, 10:58 PM
i like the idea of using earth staff, however, i will lose the r-acc then ? Also gallant reduce dmg ? I don't have that dice yet (not in endgame).

You'll not have Ranged accuracy from Trailer's Kukri, but remember, I also reccomended sushi to make up for that loss. If you want to go with the kukri, its your call.

Chayaya sells Paladin Die for Gallant's Roll. You should have all your rolls by now and I'm not getting into the sermon again.

Also isn't qualtada or rather the dueler (maat ) usually lower level ?When i fought maat @ 67 brd, it feel like i am fighting a EM...but at 70 (2nd try) he was like a DC. So sleeping would become more successful ?

Maat is EM at 70. Qultada would be no different, I'd think.

Actually i am interest in one thing...
Does light staff help light shot? ..... i would love some inputs.

Light Staff does help Light Shot land, but as I said, CORs mob seem to be a tad resistant to this. Merrow and Lamia are extremely resistant and the shade CORs are susceptable to it, but they still resist quite a bit.

I had mentioned the Joyeuse a while back and it would help a great deal to have one if you went without the staff. Its our best weapon for TPing at high level, aside from Mercurial Kris.

As far as gear goes, I'd suggest the following:

Coral/Merman Rings x2 (-6% or 8% Magic damage if qultada QDs you)
Precise or Hurling Belt
Optical Hat and/or Corsair's Tricorne
Corsair's Frac
Vision Earring
Deadeye Gloves
Corsair's Bottes
Spectacles if you don't have PCC

Basically EXP gear. :P

wrongfeifong
09-13-2007, 11:40 PM
thanks again. I would however, love to give my first try to the sleep strategy.
Going to get a light staff, fight at light day.
I was hoping to see to add more agi gear as well for accu.

The reason i want to sleep is well... i am a taru, and i don't want to take chances. Because my friend have exactly what you said and he is at 0/8 in the fight and he is an elf.

From what i look so far, due to the lack of people doing this fight, no one seem to know its sleep rate. If it is EM, i think it will sleep well. I will give to give it a try. (but man it will be expensive T.T)

Jethreal
09-14-2007, 03:53 PM
HI-o Wong,

I did the Cor. LB5 fight in a fairly traditional manner.
Blink band
sleep for tp (to 125 max, if you go to 200 you'll time out)
Main was a fire staff, rest of equip was pretty much standard, used a Hexagun.
Used Squid Suhi as I missed my first Slug Shots without it

sleep for TP
at 50% first roll (I used Chaos)
sleep for TP
at 125% second roll (agic attack one here, warlocks?)
food,
Opened fight with fireshot
first slugshot
Icarus wing
second slug shot
random deal
Fireshot
Wild Card
(note I did not get tp or hp, rotten 2 I think it was)
Fire shot
equip trailers kurki
and 1 reg. shot to win.

took me 5 tries to win, I timed out on one because I slept to 200 tp, this I think will be your main problem

good luck

wrongfeifong
09-14-2007, 06:10 PM
timed out as in the fight reach 10 min? I haven't fought LB5 for years, i forgot if they have a time limit anymore.

Omgwtfbbqkitten
09-14-2007, 06:51 PM
There's still a 10 min time limit.

Jethreal
09-15-2007, 04:39 PM
Yup thats what I mean by the time I was done buffing, sleeping, etc etc I ran out of time.

wrongfeifong
09-21-2007, 05:27 AM
I won!
Wow it was all luck.
I got a roll of 7 on choas and 4 on hunter. Then start off with only 1 fire shot for 210 dmg
then slugshot 553. then icarus wing then slug shot 553... i was panicking and i forgot random deal... but i 2hr'd GOT a 3...slugshot 330 (the end) reverberation for 23 dmg....

There is no dmg inbetween...just pure... WS and 1 slug shot ^^ I love SE for making steel bullet!

as a taru ..i only have 769 hp...was down to 1 blink left + 293 hp ^^ more then enough to kill him. Thanks for the advice everyone they really helped but at the end i went all Raccu for him ^^.

Kuro
09-22-2007, 03:04 AM
Woot congratulations