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Malacite
06-27-2007, 06:15 PM
Has anyone bothered to make a full blown SC chart including blood pacts and blue magic? If anyone has a link to such a chart it'd be greatly appreciated, especially if it's in the same form the brady games guide used (sadly one of the only things that guide is good for. That chart is very simple to read compared to most of the fan made ones)

e.g. http://monsters.ffxi-atlas.com/images/sc.pdf

One thing I've noticed however, is that not a single chart points out that Tachi Gekko can close distortion. Why is this? (or that Dragon Kick opens it for that matter)


Lastly, do Tachi Gekko and Tachi Kasha interact with each other at all, or do they chain only after a lv 2 SC?

Rain_Blade
06-27-2007, 06:26 PM
Has anyone bothered to make a full blown SC chart including blood pacts and blue magic? If anyone has a link to such a chart it'd be greatly appreciated, especially if it's in the same form the brady games guide used (sadly one of the only things that guide is good for. That chart is very simple to read compared to most of the fan made ones)

e.g. http://monsters.ffxi-atlas.com/images/sc.pdf

One thing I've noticed however, is that not a single chart points out that Tachi Gekko can close distortion. Why is this? (or that Dragon Kick opens it for that matter)


Lastly, do Tachi Gekko and Tachi Kasha interact with each other at all, or do they chain only after a lv 2 SC?

I'm sorry if I'm misunderstanding you, but do you want all the skillchains on one page?

Here's a link: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v473/gameboymaster/RenkeiChart1Page.jpg

There's a button that should come up in the bottom right to have the full size up.

It should be clear enough to see. If you can't see it, then I guess I'm useless at this point. :lipseal:

LyonheartLakshmi
06-27-2007, 09:30 PM
FYI, Aden's Renkei chart does indeed show that Gekko can close Distortion, and that Dragon Kick can open it. I tend to use the Destiny Seekers renkei chart, which is a little less clear on this part. In the newer version of it, they do have a blurb in the middle to explain which Level WSs interact to create the different Level 2 SCs.

If the SC chart you're looking at doesn't show this, it's probably an older version of the chart.

Tachi: Gekko to Tachi: Kasha forms Fusion, provided that Gekko didn't already close a previous SC.

IfritnoItazura
06-27-2007, 11:08 PM
Have you looked at: http://adennak.com/blog/wordpress/?page_id=4 ?
(Yes, it shows: Dragon Kick -> Tachi: Gekko = Distortion)

Malacite
06-27-2007, 11:15 PM
Ah ok I see how he organized it now...


It's a little all over the place though. I gotta admit I much prefer the brady games format (with the neatly arranged boxes and arrows with the SC symbols) Easier on the eyes too. Thanks given to all of you ^^b

LyonheartLakshmi
06-28-2007, 12:20 AM
Ah ok I see how he organized it now...
It's a little all over the place though. I gotta admit I much prefer the brady games format (with the neatly arranged boxes and arrows with the SC symbols) Easier on the eyes too. Thanks given to all of you ^^b
I feel the same way about Aden's renkei chart. That's why I prefer Destiny Seekers Renkei Chart (http://www.destinyseekers.net/images/renki5.jpg). The simple, non-frilly boxes with colors indicating SC element appeals more to me than Aden's busy graphics.

IfritnoItazura
06-28-2007, 04:09 AM
I feel the same way about Aden's renkei chart. That's why I prefer Destiny Seekers Renkei Chart (http://www.destinyseekers.net/images/renki5.jpg). The simple, non-frilly boxes with colors indicating SC element appeals more to me than Aden's busy graphics.

Simple is nice, but leaving out Blue Magic and Blood Pacts? :wtf:

(Yes, I'm one of those weirdos who make SMN's participate in skillchains--when it can be used to create anextra SC for BLM to MB on, that is)

Malacite
06-28-2007, 09:54 AM
This is why I said I wanted something that's done in the simple box + arrows fashion, but includes BP's and BLU

Rain_Blade
06-28-2007, 10:23 AM
Simple is nice, but leaving out Blue Magic and Blood Pacts? :wtf:

(Yes, I'm one of those weirdos who make SMN's participate in skillchains--when it can be used to create anextra SC for BLM to MB on, that is)

Gewd ^^ :biggrin:

LyonheartLakshmi
06-28-2007, 10:53 AM
This is why I said I wanted something that's done in the simple box + arrows fashion, but includes BP's and BLU
Sounds like you have a project on your hands then :P

Time to fire up MS Paint!

Amele
06-28-2007, 11:01 AM
This is why I said I wanted something that's done in the simple box + arrows fashion, but includes BP's and BLU

formatting might be an issue, but I bet if you asked adennak nicely for a version of his which is more printer friendly (i.e. remove the background images so it can be easily printed black and white) he'd probably do it - when he has the time.

you could make your own too; they're really not that hard to format once you have the information (and aden's has all the information and it's been personally verified by him or specific assistants so it's very close to error free) which you can get off any of the more or less complete charts listed here.