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DR2D2
04-19-2007, 02:53 PM
I just completed my BLU AF sword quest and I am wondering how I would go about signing it. I take it there is probably a NPC to talk to but have never seen anything reguarding this.

Aeolus
04-19-2007, 02:55 PM
You can only sign crafted items when the crafter uses a special xtal bought from the Guild with Guild Points. You would have to be at least lv28 in that Craft as well I think to turn in GPs. Its signed with the crafters name too, not just whoevers name you want.

You cant get your sword signed as its R/Ex.

Feba
04-19-2007, 02:58 PM
Aeolus is correct. Only craftable items can be signed, and only with the crafter's name.

DR2D2
04-19-2007, 03:37 PM
You can only sign crafted items when the crafter uses a special xtal bought from the Guild with Guild Points. You would have to be at least lv28 in that Craft as well I think to turn in GPs. Its signed with the crafters name too, not just whoevers name you want.

You cant get your sword signed as its R/Ex.

Darn. Maybe in 1 of the updates SE will add this ability to the AF gear. Or maybe they will make it a reward for the quest itself. Until then ill at least enjoy my sword.

Feba
04-19-2007, 03:47 PM
Why would you want it signed though? It's RA/EX, obviously you got it yourself. Signing is a craftsman's mark, it's not something you trivially place on all of your things. Think how stupid it would be to make yourself a jacket, and then put a designer's tag on it.

DR2D2
04-19-2007, 04:38 PM
Why would you want it signed though? It's RA/EX, obviously you got it yourself. Signing is a craftsman's mark, it's not something you trivially place on all of your things. Think how stupid it would be to make yourself a jacket, and then put a designer's tag on it.

The only reason why I ask is because when I looked up the quest to get it ,the picture showed the sword signed. I was more courious as to if any piece of equipt could be signed.

Taskmage
04-19-2007, 04:49 PM
Where did you see a pic of the sword signed? If it was on alla, that's not signed. The text was spliced in in an image editing program to give credit to the person who took the shot.

LyonheartLakshmi
04-19-2007, 07:07 PM
Add a feature to add a signature to an existing R/Ex item? I'd rather be able to actually name my weapon. Now THAT would be cool.

Haggai
04-20-2007, 05:18 AM
Add a feature to add a signature to an existing R/Ex item? I'd rather be able to actually name my weapon. Now THAT would be cool.
That would be cool. I'd level RDM just to have a sword named "Slashy." I'd name my BLM AF weapon "Useless."

Eohmer
04-20-2007, 05:20 AM
I've always liked "Ride the Lightning"... now what type of weapon would that fit?

Mhurron
04-20-2007, 05:33 AM
I want a Joyeuse to name it buttercup.

Actually I just want a Joyeuse.

Srxjo
04-20-2007, 05:50 AM
Actually I just want a Joyeuse.

QFW :thumbsup: but saddly i lost my high lvl ls and now i have a hard time to get a NIN or THFand BRD 66 or a full PT

Jethreal
04-20-2007, 07:27 AM
/em drool......Joyeuse

Taskmage
04-20-2007, 02:54 PM
QFW :thumbsup: but saddly i lost my high lvl ls and now i have a hard time to get a NIN or THFand BRD 66 or a full PTTwo well-coordinated rdms can take it. I think I'm up to three Charby kills by rdm duo. It helps if you have a third person to take manta pops and more is always better of course, but you don't necessarily need that specific blink+bard setup to kill the NM. Us rdms can take care of ourselves and eachother just fine. ^^d

Mhurron
04-20-2007, 03:03 PM
Two well-coordinated rdms can take it. I think I'm up to three Charby kills by rdm duo. It helps if you have a third person to take manta pops and more is always better of course, but you don't necessarily need that specific blink+bard setup to kill the NM. Us rdms can take care of ourselves and eachother just fine. ^^d
Can you change servers for a little bit?

Quetzalcoatl
04-21-2007, 01:53 AM
lol yes rdm can only solo with /nin with out it rdm r no more that refreshers and dispellers :p and i think bard can do that much better >.<;

jk :p

Taskmage
04-21-2007, 06:07 AM
Erm no ... nin is the most popular solo sub but by no means required. blm, whm and blu are also excellent solo subs, and actually blu is preferred over nin for charybdis because 3 shadows won't even survive one attack, whereas cocoon will apply to the whole volley. Auto-regen and the extra mp also make things a bit easier. Meanwhile multiple-mob situations like ZM4 are only soloable with the extra defense and attack power from /blu or Sleepga and Aspir from /blm.

As for rdm's role, we're also effective main healers, preferred even in late-game parties. Bard can't do that. We're also strong kiters and can be called on for burst damage with chainspell in battlefields and missions that call for it. Then there's the ever-popular chainspell-stun combo for tough NMs and bosses.

Even at the focus of refreshing and dispelling, rdm's dispel has a much shorter recast timer than bard's finale. Bard just can't keep up with rdm-type mobs, mobs that come prebuffed, or mobs that have both buffing spells and tp moves. I challenge you to go up against antica or weapons with only a bard for dispel and still say they're better than rdm. And while it' true that bards can provide as much mp/tick in refresh as a rdm, they don't get that ability until level 55, and it's a much bigger pain in the ass for them to keep the buff on a mixed party, especially if something like a pld or a blu is involved. Even then, they can only keep refresh OR haste on each person in the party, whereas a rdm can provide both as needed.

Why would you even make such a poorly informed statement? :worry:

Srxjo
04-21-2007, 07:25 AM
whats the strat for duo/trio RDM fight? (got 2 RDMs for best friends and i beat them to 75 to ^^ but they've caught up)

Taskmage
04-21-2007, 08:47 AM
Thread on it here: http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/red-mage/62452-shout-out-taskmage.html

Basically, keep Phalanx, Stoneskin, Protect, and Cocoon/Utsusemi up on yourselves, keep Bio II and Poison II on the mob, and take turns casting Bind after the other person casts Blizzard III. If a Bind gets resisted or something goes wrong, use Gravity to get back control. Again, if you have a third person there to solo the Devil Manta when it pops, that makes things much easier. Hardest part is keeping eachother updated on when your Bind is ready and rationing your mp to keep control until you get to Convert again.

Srxjo
04-22-2007, 07:16 AM
after reading that post my RDMs friends won't be able to do this >.<; only one RDM i know who i only just remembered about would be able to last ; ;

Taskmage
04-22-2007, 09:41 AM
Why wouldn't the other two be able to do it?

Srxjo
04-22-2007, 09:59 AM
they haven't got their skill anywhere near cap and they haven't done any dangerous soloing at all

Neomage
04-22-2007, 12:12 PM
lol yes rdm can only solo with /nin with out it rdm r no more that refreshers and dispellers :p and i think bard can do that much better >.<;

jk :p

:wasted: MY EYES! THEY'RE BLEEDING!

Achaicus
05-04-2007, 08:29 PM
Keeping in mind a party support, I disagree with Taskmage's speculation that Quetzalcoatl is poorly informed. I would agree that, in the instance of soloing this NM that a RDM party does not require a Bard.



(paragrahp about rdm sj snipped)


As for rdm's role, we're also effective main healers, preferred even in late-game parties. Bard can't do that. We're also strong kiters and can be called on for burst damage with chainspell in battlefields and missions that call for it. Then there's the ever-popular chainspell-stun combo for tough NMs and bosses.


Even at the focus of refreshing and dispelling, rdm's dispel has a much shorter recast timer than bard's finale. Bard just can't keep up with rdm-type mobs, mobs that come prebuffed, or mobs that have both buffing spells and tp moves. I challenge you to go up against antica or weapons with only a bard for dispel and still say they're better than rdm. And while it' true that bards can provide as much mp/tick in refresh as a rdm, they don't get that ability until level 55, and it's a much bigger pain in the ass for them to keep the buff on a mixed party, especially if something like a pld or a blu is involved. Even then, they can only keep refresh OR haste on each person in the party, whereas a rdm can provide both as needed.


Why would you even make such a poorly informed statement? :worry:

Bard can't main heal? True. RDM Preferred? Situational to party/mob. Kiter? Both. Burst? True. Stun NM or bosses? Both - except where Lullaby does not work.

Dispel recast shoter time? True. Bard can't keep up with RDM vs RDM type mobs? If you 'stack the cards' and only take Dispel/Finale into consideration. Anticans & Weapons in general? Either type of party for Anticans or Weapons (though I personally prefer the Lullaby 'fall back position' vs undead).

MP per tick? Equal after 55? Yah - when taken individually - :biggrin:

Pain? True where someone figures that it is. Personally, I enjoy the challenge of playing a Bard. With experience, I have learned how to judge the range with sufficient precision that I may Ballad the PLD. Even in the instances where a 'miss' occurs (THF moves into PLD's Ballad range, for example) I can recast whichever meelee type song as needed.

Provide Refresh & Haste as needed? Selectively, yes. But not the whole party and not always on demand - that's the 'luxury' of not depending on MP (one of the advantages, in general, about the Bard job).

What Taskmage or Quetzalcoatl has been informed of, I cannot say (I do not have a 'transcript' of every knowledge that they have). For party support, there are situations where a Red Mage is better or a Bard is. To be honest, I would tend to agree with the statement 'RDM is better than Bard' because RDm may be support, main heal, and solo readily. Even so, Bard support can make the whole party stronger to the point that a main heal may be shared by one or two back-ups. As far as solo - ugh, I ~could~ 'Lullaby kite' but it takes too long.

Go get another RDM and get that NM Questzalcoatl! :thumbsup:

- Greg W.

tdh
05-04-2007, 09:08 PM
Two well-coordinated rdms can take it. I think I'm up to three Charby kills by rdm duo. It helps if you have a third person to take manta pops and more is always better of course, but you don't necessarily need that specific blink+bard setup to kill the NM. Us rdms can take care of ourselves and eachother just fine. ^^dIn that case, when can we go get my Joytoy? Too bad X isn't around, he likes getting smacked around in the name of Odude! lol

Malacite
05-04-2007, 09:35 PM
Actually, if I ever got my hands on a Relic Weapon you can be damned sure I'd want it signed >. >

just for the extra ego boost :3

Taskmage
05-05-2007, 05:52 AM
To Achaicus, Quetzalcoatl made three statements that I addressed in my post: 1) That rdm can only solo with /nin. 2) That without /nin rdm are nothing more than refreshers and dispellers. and 3) That bard was much better for refreshing and dispelling. None of those things are at all true, unless perhaps you give the bard a Gjallarhorn. There are many viable subs for a rdm to solo with, rdm have considerably more useful spells in the repetoire than just refresh and dispel, and that rdm can not only match a bard in refreshing/dispelling but are situationally better.

If I came across as saying that rdm are hands-down better than bard, that's not what I meant. I'm only saying that bard is not hands-down better than rdm. Obviously there are situations and tasks that favor each over the other. As you said, the best support for a party is a bard AND a rdm. :)In that case, when can we go get my Joytoy? Too bad X isn't around, he likes getting smacked around in the name of Odude! lolI have a standing offer to help pop and fight Charby for anyone in the LS that collects the ToD. So far nobody's taken me up on it.

Mhurron
05-05-2007, 06:01 AM
If I came across as saying that rdm are hands-down better than bard, that's not what I meant.
It's ok if thats what it sounded like you said, it's true.

:evil:

Feba
05-05-2007, 06:12 AM
How the heck would having a signed relic weapon be an ego boost? Obviously, it's rare/ex, it's on your character. If someone sees the signature that means they're /checking you, which means THEY ALREADY SEE YOUR NAME IN THE UPPERLEFT OF THEIR SCREEN. It's really freakin' obvious you got a relic weapon, it's kinda impossible for you to have one otherwise. How in the world does it make it any better than an unsigned weapon?

I can understand having things like non EX NM drops being able to be signed, that would be nice, mark it as your kill, but signing RA/EX quested items would be retarded.

Malacite
05-05-2007, 10:21 AM
How the heck would having a signed relic weapon be an ego boost? Obviously, it's rare/ex, it's on your character. If someone sees the signature that means they're /checking you, which means THEY ALREADY SEE YOUR NAME IN THE UPPERLEFT OF THEIR SCREEN. It's really freakin' obvious you got a relic weapon, it's kinda impossible for you to have one otherwise. How in the world does it make it any better than an unsigned weapon?

I can understand having things like non EX NM drops being able to be signed, that would be nice, mark it as your kill, but signing RA/EX quested items would be retarded.


Typical alla mentality. It's simple; yes, Relics in and of themselves are a huge accomplishment, but having it signed with my name to boot separates me from any others who might have one. It's just a tiny added touch of awesomeness.

Feba
05-05-2007, 10:31 AM
Typical alla mentality.
Oh, I gave you way too much credit then.

If you're still hung up on that site, let me give you my reply in words you and anyone else from there can understand: WHY SE LET YOU SIGN ITEM AND NOBODY EALS? YOU BE SILLY WITH COLD TOES. IT WOULD LOOK STUPID!!1!1!11!111!!!!111!!12!11!oen.

Taskmage
05-05-2007, 10:34 AM
But the thing is, if you have a relic weapon, everyone knows you're the one who went to the effort of obtaining it. You don't get any extra credit or anything, all the credit is already yours. Now, maybe if it was signable with the name of a linkshell or something as a shoutout to the people that helped you get it, I could understand. I think that would be pretty cool for Ex NM drops as well.

Feba
05-05-2007, 10:46 AM
Actually, dynamis linkshell signing would be awesome. Would be simple enough too, SE could add a prompt when you trade the hourglass to the trailmarkings, then any AF2 that drops inside is given the text in that prompt's name (maybe make it possible for someone to remove this, but not add it, so if someone wants to name your bastok run CraptastictownWeekFive, it doesn't reflect poorly on you whenever you wear that armor), that way multiple dynamis LS can work together and still get signed armor.

That would also be pretty neat in COP missions, whoever you finish 8-4 with gets put on your ring. Like if you had a party of (using names of people from my server) Yib, Raslin, Vestrivan, Petsnoop, Feba, Luijii, the ring would be signed '[Y.R.V.P.F.L.]", kinda like the wedding rings, but for groups. Would definitely help create bonds between players even more than those missions already do.

Not that I'd ever work with luijii or raslin.