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Antmf
04-04-2007, 03:08 AM
Whats best way t make gil as a noob? DO I sell at AH or are there any npc's I can directly sell to as opposed to waiting for someone to buy my AH stuff? PLease let me know. Also how do I know what price to sell stuff at? Thanks...

neokaril
04-04-2007, 03:11 AM
Sell at AH, NPC prices are garbage, check the going rates by entering in to bid and price history, if you want it to move quicker, cutt your price.


Best way to start out is to sell everything you pick up in stacks of 12 (crystals esp)

Before you go out to kill pick up signet at gate and have at it. Since you probably dont know what job you are going to want in the long run and you will want to have all available for sub job combinations run all your starting jobs up to 15, the items collected and sold will give you a good base to buy gear with when making your push to 30 and subjob

Omecle
04-04-2007, 03:23 AM
Just sell stacks of crystals at the AH. I wouldn't really bother with anything else, because then you have to deal with taxes.

neokaril
04-04-2007, 04:17 AM
Just sell stacks of crystals at the AH. I wouldn't really bother with anything else, because then you have to deal with taxes.

Sorry, I can't agree with this, esp when a stack of crystals goes for 1-2k and a stack of say silk thread goes for 10k plus and you won't have a use for it until +50 cloth. You can make a ton of money selling consumable goods that other crafters need just by watching auction movements.

Jugil
04-04-2007, 04:44 AM
I'm not sure what level you are, but from pretty much 1-10 I'd sell anything that drops during those levels. If you're in no rush level-level-level, you can pick up extra gil by merely leveling the starting jobs through those first 10 levels or so.

Please keep all of your Beastmen Seals; later they can be used to enter battlefields that typically have nice items, which can be sold for a substantial profit.

Like others have said, just watch the AH to see what sells and how prices fluctuate. If you have an extra PC, FFXIAH (http://www.ffxiah.com/) is a real nice site to monitor the AH from while you're away from town.

LyonheartLakshmi
04-04-2007, 04:49 AM
Always compare what an NPC will buy your drops for against what you can get at the AH for an item you've never gotten before. When you sell stuff to NPCs, you have to click on the item twice -- the first time will report the amount the NPC is willing to give you.

Some items simply don't sell well at the AH, so it might make more sense to sell them to NPCs. Even if an item seems to sell for a decent chunk of gil at the AH, pay attention to how often it sells. If an item is only selling once every few days for 500 gil, your AH slot might be better used for a different item.

Minimee
04-04-2007, 11:05 AM
some items actually sell for more to npcs than on the ah. crystals always sell those on ah because thery sell extremely fast. there are items that you can buy from ah and resell to npcs for a profit. as a new player i also suggest you find the npcs that have quests involving drops from the lower level mobs. you may not get as much for these items, but its fast gil and it adds to your fame, which also gives you lower prices when you buy from npcs and opens up other quests. crab meat usually sells for more to npcs than ah prices. ive made alot of gil buying stacks from ah and selling to npcs.

FinnDS
04-04-2007, 01:15 PM
Starting off the game, I seem only to be making gil off the crystals in the AH .. ;;

Malacite
04-04-2007, 01:58 PM
Actually there are rare instances where NPC prices are better than AH, especially with Hero Fame.

That aside, yes, sell stuff on the AH and try to take a craft while you're out farming and use the materials you gather (unless they're cheap enough from NPC/AH to maximize time vs money)

Omecle
04-05-2007, 12:37 AM
Sorry, I can't agree with this, esp when a stack of crystals goes for 1-2k and a stack of say silk thread goes for 10k plus and you won't have a use for it until +50 cloth. You can make a ton of money selling consumable goods that other crafters need just by watching auction movements.

I'll agree the silk threads are something I forgot to mention, but that's only if you're starting out in Windurst. There's also Saru Cotton and Beehive Chips. But apart from that there's nothing else I can think of that's really worth it, you're best trading most things for quests or NPC's.

IfritnoItazura
04-05-2007, 02:54 AM
I'll agree the silk threads are something I forgot to mention, but that's only if you're starting out in Windurst. There's also Saru Cotton and Beehive Chips. But apart from that there's nothing else I can think of that's really worth it, you're best trading most things for quests or NPC's.

Hmm. Most crystals are about 800 Gil to 1.5k per stack on my server. So, to match or beat that in Auction House...

Bird Feather x12: ~3.4k (http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=847&stack=1&sid=13)
Yagudo Necklace: ~650 (http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=498&sid=13) (sells faster, for higher price in Windurst, BTW)
Hare Meat x12: ~2.1k (http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=4358&stack=1&sid=13)
Rabbit Hide x12: ~2k (http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=856&stack=1&sid=13)
Grain Seed x12: ~11.2k (http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=575&stack=1&sid=13)All those and more can be found in beginner zones. Gather and stack any and all drops from killing monsters, then go to AH (or ffxiah.com) and NPC's to figure out how much they're worth would be instructive to any new player.

Hilde
04-05-2007, 04:07 AM
I liked farming in giddeus for low level gear, and then selling it in the AH.
Or buying something like a robe at a merchant and selling it in the AH. Sadly in windy I was able to triple my initial expense on that one...course that was afew years ago.

Olorin401
04-05-2007, 08:15 AM
Just sell stacks of crystals at the AH. I wouldn't really bother with anything else, because then you have to deal with taxes.
Sorry, I can't agree with this, esp when a stack of crystals goes for 1-2k and a stack of say silk thread goes for 10k plus and you won't have a use for it until +50 cloth. You can make a ton of money selling consumable goods that other crafters need just by watching auction movements.
I cant' agree either anymore.. Crystal prices have dropped dramatically and continue to do so, at least that's the case on Ramuh.

Olorin401
04-05-2007, 08:18 AM
Sell at AH, NPC prices are garbage, ....
There are items that sell better at the NPC than on the AH. Two I can think of immediately are Infinity Cores (dropped in Dynamis) and Colibri Feathers.

Then again, you may want to keep those Infinity Cores regardless and turn them into Rune Weapons.

neokaril
04-05-2007, 09:39 AM
Agreed but a brand new player just starting out isn't hitting Dynamis' or killing Colibri's.

My intent was to shape the answer generally for the OP, most early drop items sell for considerably more on AH than what you get from NPC buys, esp those exchanges that are worth fame. Bee chips, honey, cotton, silk, zinc ore, mushrooms, etc.

NicasinXS
04-05-2007, 10:05 AM
Well you can always just buy stuff from NPCs and sell them on AH. In windy, for instance, there are a few items that sell fairly cheap to what the AH in Windy sells them at. There are similiar things in Bastok, San'doria, and if you can reach Jueno there you can sell many things that are much cheaper in AH. Yagudo cherries, buburimu grapes, apples the list is very large and spans many items.

One easy way for a new player to earn a good profit is gardening. You can help yourself bigtime by studying websites with gardening information and get an understanding on dynamics of gardening. PikkoPots website is a good one for that or any other FFXI websites gardening guide. Then get yourself gardening, its really cheap and only takes a few days to complete the growing cycle of the herb-veggie-and grain seeds. Use the Pikko pots website to find what you can grow with what, use www.ffxiah.com to see what whatever is worth and figure out what you want to grow.

You're not going to make any gil unless you research a little.

I hope this helps.

NicasinXS
04-05-2007, 10:11 AM
Sorry for the double post but here is a link to pikko pots.
http://www.swapsonian.com/pikko/index.html
If your going to garden and I really think you should since you dont need any craft or job lvls to do it, you should mass produce at any rate. Not just one or 2 pots going, 10 at a time. Earthen pots go for 2k tops at NPC, cost you no more than 30k to get a ful set of 10 going on herb or veggie. Use the same crystal at the same time on all of them so you get alot of the same stuff. Get some cheap maple table to help if you can.

Have fun!!

NicasinXS
04-05-2007, 10:27 AM
Im sorry about this triple, I just deleted what I put here, I though I deleted the above 2 my bad!! please remove this.

Jethreal
04-05-2007, 10:53 AM
You may also want to hit up fishing. Again a bit of research, but no-risk, low cost, fairly decent profit on Moat carps, quicker than gardening, but takes more actual time to do.

IE. gardening requires all of 5 mins of attention per day, every day for approx a week to 10 days on most begginning crops. Fishing takes oh lets say an hour per 1 - 2 stacks of moats (I think that would be fairly typical if using a Hume rod with Insect Paste)

http://www.finalfishing.com/
http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/fisher/48260-fishing-guide-1-100-off-site.html

Aksannyi
04-05-2007, 09:28 PM
Don't listen to that guy ... god damn RMT spammers. NEVER EVER BUY GIL unless you want people to hate you. Seriously.

Karinya
04-06-2007, 06:08 AM
My intent was to shape the answer generally for the OP, most early drop items sell for considerably more on AH than what you get from NPC buys, esp those exchanges that are worth fame. Bee chips, honey, cotton, silk, zinc ore, mushrooms, etc.

True, but fame has other benefits too (notably, it allows you to do the mog locker quest and all city fames contribute to Jeuno fame which allows the gobbiebag quests; and it improves your prices in all transactions with NPCs from that city). So I'd recommend doing those turn-in quests yourself at least once each; the gil you make in the short term may be a bit less than you would have made at AH, but the fame will pay off in the long run. (You get more fame from doing a quest you haven't done before than for repeating a quest, which is why doing a lot of quests once each is better for fame than doing the same one over and over.)

I wouldn't turn in silk for the quest, though, it's too much of a loss. You get just as much reward (and fame) for crawler calculi, so save your silk for the AH. But turning in a few rabbit hides, bat wings, cornettes, flint, treant bulbs, etc. is probably a good idea.

If you get something that you don't know what it's for, try looking it up on FFXIclopedia or another website before selling it. It may be used in a quest you didn't know about.

Mookie
04-07-2007, 01:53 AM
Sell everything on the AH. I started a new character after being absent from the game for over a year and a half, and by the time I got my characters 1st job to 18 I had made over 60K IN PROFIT (so thats 60K with all updated armor/weapons bought and with using food while solo and in parties).

Making money as a new player is extremely easy. Worse comes to worse you can buy armor off of a NPC walk right over to the AH and sell it for a real nice profit.

Oh btw, I just picked the game up about a week and a half ago, so what I've done is all recent.