Fenrir without lvl 75 job possible?

[mobkon]

Ive been gone from the game for about a year or so. I just recently joined back after purchasing the new expansion pack. I have a lvl 41 SMN, but I stopped leveling it due to the fact that all these people have Fenrir and I cant get him because I dont have a lvl 75. Am I assuming this right? Is there any way I can get Fenrir without having a lvl 75 job? Also, what lvl do I need to be to get Diablos?

[hongman]

You can get Fenny without a lvl 75 job, you just need to have some people willing to take him out for you!!

As for Diablos, I believe you need to do some CoP missions for this...

[Malevolent]

To get diablos you will have to fight him twice. once for CoP missions 2nd for avatar fight.

For Fenrir...maybe get a few of your 70+ LS mates to help you granted you have the items you need for the moon baubble or whatever you need...

[Gwynn]

Fenrir: Yes it is possible, but you need a very good team (or some 75 SMNs if you know enough of them) to take him out, as he can still destroy a full party of 75's with ease if he spams Eclipse Bite. Realistically, I'd wait to level SMN until you have a job at 70+ first. Fenrir is a very nice summon, and you're not living up to your full potential if he isn't in your spell list.

Diabolos: Wouldn't count on it. Diabolos is a damn hard fight for a full party of 75s as it is, not to mention having a leech. You can easily play SMN without having Diabolos, though... he just helps to have sometimes.

[Taskmage]

For Diabolos you have to complete CoP up to mission 3-5 Darkness Named, then beat him in an uncapped Diabolos Prime fight called Waking Dreams.

Erecia's CoP Guide (http://promathia.runtimerepairs.com/)
FFXIclopedia Chains of Promathia mission articles (http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/Chains_of_Promathia_Missions)
FFXIclopedia Waking Dreams article (http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/Waking_Dreams)

[Omniblast]

Step 1.

Find 3-4 summoners.

Step 2.

Offer them 100k - 200k per person to fight Fenrir for you

Step 3.

Get Fenrir.

This is assuming you have all your other avatars and have gotten all of their items necessary to have access to Fenrir. Doing the Mini battles don't get your those items, you need to have Fame in most of all areas to have access to do all those avatars as well. Good Luck.

[Grizzlebeard]

You don't need summoners to get the fight done but a couple of people capable of keeping up shadows is a big bonus. I've tanked him numerous times on ninja with either a ninja or thief partner bouncing hate back and forth. Granted it is kind of Russian Roulette but it's good old messy fun.

[Shinhiryu_Kage]

I've been told that a LV75 RDM/NIN can solo Fenrir.

As far as strategy is concerned, I'm rather lost but people say it can be done. I'll wager it invovles the usual Bio2/Poison2 and Grav+Bind, but I wonder how effectv Grav/Bind is on Fenrir lolz. Maybe with capped Enfeebling + Merits/Eq?

So, possibly, find an intelligent RDM with alot of solo-ing experience and have that RDM solo Fenny for you.

[Malevolent]

I've been told that a LV75 RDM/NIN can solo Fenrir.

As far as strategy is concerned, I'm rather lost but people say it can be done. I'll wager it invovles the usual Bio2/Poison2 and Grav+Bind, but I wonder how effectv Grav/Bind is on Fenrir lolz. Maybe with capped Enfeebling + Merits/Eq?

So, possibly, find an intelligent RDM with alot of solo-ing experience and have that RDM solo Fenny for you.

maybe with max merits for the job and also some AF2 and endgame equipment...not every 75 Rdm/nin can solo it...they'd need lots of items to accompany them too on top of 1-2 hours...maybe...

[Shinhiryu_Kage]

maybe with max merits for the job and also some AF2 and endgame equipment...not every 75 Rdm/nin can solo it...they'd need lots of items to accompany them too on top of 1-2 hours...maybe...

Yeah.. that's what I'm saying... I like have no clue. Do these ppl mean you have to be at the pinnacle of your RDM game or what to solo Fenny? lol

[Aksannyi]

I've been told that a LV75 RDM/NIN can solo Fenrir.

As far as strategy is concerned, I'm rather lost but people say it can be done. I'll wager it invovles the usual Bio2/Poison2 and Grav+Bind, but I wonder how effectv Grav/Bind is on Fenrir lolz. Maybe with capped Enfeebling + Merits/Eq?

So, possibly, find an intelligent RDM with alot of solo-ing experience and have that RDM solo Fenny for you.
There is a thread around here where someone showed that he could do it ... check the Red Mage forum for it because I don't have the time to link it for you guys. And I know it's not Avesta. :) It can be done, but it's not easy. I don't know if the guy had any merits but I didn't see any Dia IIIs or Paralyze IIs being used so I would think maybe not. Just someone very skilled in using shadows, Bind, DoT, and the other stuff and just wearing him down. I was impressed, that's for sure ... but I wouldn't recommend it unless you are really confident in your RDM soloing abilities.

I haven't fought him myself yet, as I still need some of the avatars and no one seems to want to do them when I am available. (>.<) but I think at my level (66 RDM) I should be just fine to aid a party with Fenrir. Good luck!

[Shinhiryu_Kage]

Ok thanks... I'll look that up. I seem to remember the name Avesta......

anyways, for the original poster.... hope this info helps...

[Aksannyi]

I think the poster's name was Seijurhiko or something like that, if that helps.

[Omniblast]

That's why I suggested the Summoner method. It's usually a guaranteed win with Leviathan.

True a RDM/NIN can do Fenrir solo, and it doesn't take 1 or 2 hours. You have a time limit. I think time limit is 15 minutes, but I forget.

[Wind Adept]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy73w8EiuWA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxS7EZqu6B0&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-VSxul_uCU&mode=related&search=

That's all three parts of Seijurohiko soloing Fenrir on youtube. I think there's a thread about it somewhere on this site, but it involves the search function and nobody likes that. ;) It also involves filefront, which is less convenient if you don't have an account.. and the actual thread just degenerates into people wondering how he was clicking his macros so quickly. Kinda pointless.

Basically it's a combined DoT-kiting and nuke-kiting strategy. I think he sticks Bio III and Poison II on Fenny while keeping him gravity'd and slow'd. He keeps stoneskin, shadows, haste, and refresh up, and binds Fenny when he wants to cast Blizzard III on him. Toward the end there's a chainspell-Blizzard III spam.
Completely avoids Howling Moon.
That's as best as I can remember it, anyway.

The time limit's half an hour, I think.

[Eiyoko]

The question isn't whether or not it's possible; it's about how you do it with any other given level.

Don't fret too terribly much over it. Summoners can still preform well without Fenrir; it's all in how you do it.

[Callisto]

Fenrir with a leech isn't too bad. I usuall do the fight as RDM/DRK, then bring a PLD, a healer, and one DD, then the 6th being whoever needs it. I grav/bind, PLD kites it around, DD(usually a RNG) whacks away at it. As long as I nail the stun on Howling Moon(I've only missed it once) things are easy-peasy.

As far as soloing it, I think I could pull it off, but I wouldn't recommend asking a single RDM to beat it for you.

And Diabolos, I'd get at least one job to 75, that fight isn't super easy unless you do the cheap boot the PLD and reinvite when he has hate, then nuke from top floor method.